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Old 03-02-2015, 10:10 AM   #1
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Default 2008 STi Dom 1.5 XTR ANC91

Event: Dyno Tune
Location: Cobb SoCal - Fountain Valley, California
Ambient Temp: 60s
Elevation: unknown
Weather: partially cloudy and cool

Car: 2008 STi
Tuner: Jon Hebbeln
Dyno Info: Mustang Dyno
Transmission: Stock
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 345 @ 6200ish
Peak Torque at RPM: 378 @ 3600ish
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Not sure
Target Boost: 22 tapering to 19
Fuel: ANC 91
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Outfront Motorsports built long block
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Manley Pistons 99.75 CR8.5:1
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KStech Phenolic Spacers 3mm
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Grimmspeed EBCS
Invidia Catless Downpipe (wrapped from bellmouth to trans bracket with DEI Lava wrap)
Maddad Whisper V3
PTP Lava Turbo Blanket
ID 1000cc Injectors
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GD Pressure Regulator backdate

One of the runs the car made 360whp and 389wtq but it started to pull timing up top so in the final tune timing was reduced.

Yes, I am on completely stock exhaust manifolds and up pipe.

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Old 03-02-2015, 10:12 AM   #2
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I typed it up in MS word, copy and paste was weird, fixed now.

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Old 03-02-2015, 11:21 AM   #3
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Those are good #'s for 91 and no headers!
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:52 PM   #4
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Impressive especially on 91 oct what are your next steps
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:02 PM   #5
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There's a few E85 stations near you, you should consider it. You'd gain a little over 100whp just from it.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:55 AM   #6
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Impressive especially on 91 oct what are your next steps
Probably just drive it. Jon, said with the killer b headers I could see 20-30 more torque on the low end but not much in the way of peak horsepower, but they are a lot of money for the gains.

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There's a few E85 stations near you, you should consider it. You'd gain a little over 100whp just from it.
I do have an E85 station 3 miles from my house but its the only one in like a 60 mile radius, so I don't want that kind of leash and hassle for more HPs. I also refuse to run the stuff without functioning flex fuel setup with an inline Ethanol content analyzer, I don't feel like doing another motor rebuild because its E70 or E75 all of a sudden. I think Visconti tuning has a flexfuel ECUtek option and Cobb has something in the works but there is no ETA. The other thing is it seems that I would have to go to the 1300cc injectors, bigger fuel pump and possibly rails at that point to really make it worth while.
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:14 AM   #7
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I do have an E85 station 3 miles from my house but its the only one in like a 60 mile radius, so I don't want that kind of leash and hassle for more HPs. I also refuse to run the stuff without functioning flex fuel setup with an inline Ethanol content analyzer, I don't feel like doing another motor rebuild because its E70 or E75 all of a sudden. I think Visconti tuning has a flexfuel ECUtek option and Cobb has something in the works but there is no ETA. The other thing is it seems that I would have to go to the 1300cc injectors, bigger fuel pump and possibly rails at that point to really make it worth while.
I understand not wanting to be tied down but honestly 3 miles that's it??? I drive like 15miles once a week to fill up my tank and 2 5 gallon jugs for it. Also trust me a quick tester tube is better. It takes 5 minutes to test the E85 outside of it going in your tank where as a zentronix is nice but if its bad ethanol now you have a full tank OG bad ethanol you have to baby your car on or drain. And switch back and forth between pump and E85 is as easy as pushing a few buttons on your access port. Are you really going to pay thousands only to save yourself a few button pushes? Just food for thought. I used to be in the same mindset as you and debated getting a hydra and going flex fuel but after seeing so many people do it without anything other than fairly easy monitoring I pulled the trigger and got it done. Also id1000s for E85 is fine for that turbo and the dw65c is also. I'm running a walbro 450 and id1000s on my Dom 1.5 and made 480whp.

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Old 03-03-2015, 08:45 PM   #8
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Also trust me a quick tester tube is better. p
you are out of your mind bro, ive had locals tell me yeah man e85 at so and so station, i go fill up and its 77. most stations by me are 77-79 from april till nov, im tuned at that # so im good. you add a touch to much water or to little throws off the #s by a bit. once i started seeing e70 it was back to pump

either way, very good #s for 91, the 1.5 is such a great turbo
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Old 03-03-2015, 09:58 PM   #9
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you are out of your mind bro, ive had locals tell me yeah man e85 at so and so station, i go fill up and its 77. most stations by me are 77-79 from april till nov, im tuned at that # so im good. you add a touch to much water or to little throws off the #s by a bit. once i started seeing e70 it was back to pump

either way, very good #s for 91, the 1.5 is such a great turbo
Obviously make sure the levels are right, if you fill it up too much redo it, it's not that hard. I fill it up to what I think is perfect and then let it settle on a flat surface (usually on top of the pump) for about 5 minutes. Best part is noone is going to get mad at you for being there too long because hardly anyone uses E85.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:57 PM   #10
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I might go back with some E85 in fuel cans for a pure e85 tune, so that way when the flexfuel patch comes out it will be easy for them to build the flex map.

I drive the car about 50 miles a day to and from work. While yea I guess I could just run the car almost empty before refilling then switch maps. Really it's just a hassle if I want to splash it with a few gallons for what ever reason.

Maybe, if I can get another car so the STi no longer my daily driver/only car, but for now I just don't want to deal with switching maps.
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:09 AM   #11
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The best thing about West Coast E85 is no winter blend Its E85+ all year round. Worth stopping to get fuel twice a week. Plus if you run out or hit a road trip then switch back over to crap 91 as freddy said. Easiest mod you ever did.
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Old 03-05-2015, 05:47 PM   #12
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Nice numbers on 1.5!

Out of curiosity, what do you guys do with the tested E85 in the tube? Dumping it in the trash seems like a fire hazard, the ground is polluting, and no way I'm putting that watered down crap in the gas tank?


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Old 03-05-2015, 06:27 PM   #13
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Nice numbers on 1.5!

Out of curiosity, what do you guys do with the tested E85 in the tube? Dumping it in the trash seems like a fire hazard, the ground is polluting, and no way I'm putting that watered down crap in the gas tank?


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Pour it on the ground and light it. Gone in seconds.
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Old 03-05-2015, 07:29 PM   #14
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Nice numbers on 1.5!

Out of curiosity, what do you guys do with the tested E85 in the tube? Dumping it in the trash seems like a fire hazard, the ground is polluting, and no way I'm putting that watered down crap in the gas tank?


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E85 has nearly no pollutants attached to it in liquid or gas form. Dumping it on the ground it will eventually evaporate.
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Old 03-06-2015, 09:28 AM   #15
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Pour it on the ground and light it. Gone in seconds.
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E85 has nearly no pollutants attached to it in liquid or gas form.
So may as well drink it right? Gotta love that 170 proof corn whiskey, and the 15% gasoline gives it a nice tang :-). Just seems like a duuche move dumping fuel on the ground at a gas station, that's all. Cheers

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So may as well drink it right? Gotta love that 170 proof corn whiskey, and the 15% gasoline gives it a nice tang :-). Just seems like a duuche move dumping fuel on the ground at a gas station, that's all. Cheers
Most washer fluids contain some alcohol. Pour it into the squeegee bin. Cleaner windows for everyone.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:35 PM   #17
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OP , for what it's worth I have a similar situation as you and converted to e85 15k miles ago. All I use is corn juice locally and have to switch to 91 every road trip longer than 200 miles or so. Echoing the other posts, switching maps is no big deal.

Just had my compression/leak down done, 150 across all 4 with 4% leak down. I'm at 370TQ 330whp on stock motor/turbo. Best bang for the buck mod ever
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