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Old 09-10-2012, 11:41 PM   #1551
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The clip in the center of the PP that retains/engages the TO bearing.

Not sure why he removed it during the R&R, but they do sometimes get mangled or need to be replaced.
You need to remove it to get the throw out bearing out. How else do you separate it from the pressure plate
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:22 AM   #1552
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i actually put the clip on throw out bearing it self lol dont ask
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:47 AM   #1553
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You need to remove it to get the throw out bearing out. How else do you separate it from the pressure plate
No, you don't Have removed many TO's from the PP without removing the ring (or damaging it).
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:53 AM   #1554
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Oh okay. I found that if you have the Pressure Plate on the bench, plate down and let the throw out bearing settle, you can pop it out very easily with a flat head screw driver and a twist. Whew. Thanks gentlemen!
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Old 09-11-2012, 02:10 PM   #1555
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Oh okay. I found that if you have the Pressure Plate on the bench, plate down and let the throw out bearing settle, you can pop it out very easily with a flat head screw driver and a twist. Whew. Thanks gentlemen!
that's how we do them when we pull the motor. Just use a long flat head, reach down next to the release arm and pop it out of the plate. No need to remove the shaft or any of that crap.

The clip never comes out of the pressure plate for any reason.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:36 PM   #1556
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that's how we do them when we pull the motor. Just use a long flat head, reach down next to the release arm and pop it out of the plate. No need to remove the shaft or any of that crap. .
Good to know for the future!
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:24 PM   #1557
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was about to renew tabs after car is all back together guess what emissions test required wtf... now i need AP
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:06 PM   #1558
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was about to renew tabs after car is all back together guess what emissions test required wtf... now i need AP
Just flash an OTS stage 7 and your good to go....
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:25 PM   #1559
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Been getting weird AFR spikes lately, not sure if its the Innovate MTX gauge or its actual misfires! Feedback any one?

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8g...W9UczUzQUJLbU0
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8g...UpVdmJNbmFORDQ
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8g...XV1VmE1RjlSUWs
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8g...3JqYkRaOUE0WVU

Happens at random boost levels, usually anywhere from 4500 to 5500 rpm under load.
Same with meth injection as well
Cant really feel it in the car, also knock sensor is quiet.

Running Brisk 2 step cold plugs gaped to .030 and factory coil packs.

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:21 PM   #1560
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I'm I missing something here? The logs you provided don't go into the 4500 -5500 rpm zones??????

SCRATCH THAT. you think google docs would work better on android.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:46 PM   #1561
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Do you have a log with individual EGTs at the time of the AFR fluctuation
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:52 PM   #1562
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EGTs looks same as always climbing to about 690c at red line, with no major bumps, the EGT system is not very fast acting anyways, its only good to see a big picture.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #1563
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http://www.exhaustgas.com/Deptselect.asp


A little OT but I'm running these guys EGT probes and oil sensor probes and I'm trying out one of there exposed junction EGT probes that they use on top fuel cars. The response time is 250 ms and they say with their probes you can see a single misfire @ 8000 rpm. I'm going to log the exposed junction probe along with the normal EGT probe to see the difference in response times.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #1564
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i'm thinking it might be the spark plugs, going to drop in old NGK iridiums or Denso IKH22 and if it changes anything.
step 2 cold plugs are rated for 700+ whp,

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Old 09-19-2012, 12:46 AM   #1565
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passed emissions today thanks again Dom!
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:01 PM   #1566
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after long time of trouble shooting the AFR spikes thinking its misfires went to store bought new sensor and boom afr in perfect line!
****ing innovate support is trying to blame it on missfires and that if the sensor is not showing error code its good ********...
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:28 PM   #1567
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after long time of trouble shooting the AFR spikes thinking its misfires went to store bought new sensor and boom afr in perfect line!
****ing innovate support is trying to blame it on missfires and that if the sensor is not showing error code its good ********...
Told you man
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #1568
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So you've had that innovate for like 4-6 months and it crapped out? Sounds about right.
Innovate tried to blame the car or install for problems with their product....sounds about right.

That's why I stopped recommending them. 99% of their "troubleshooting" is blaming the customer and telling them they didn't install it correctly.

I really believe innovate has some serious electrical issues with their controllers that causes premature wear. The same Bosch sensors last a million times longer with uegos than innovate.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:48 PM   #1569
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What kind of Innovate is that? LC-1? I have LM-1, removed it and replaced with LC-1. LC-1 is horrible compared to LM-1. I'm thinking if LC-1 gets damaged easily due to severe heat of the engine bay, unlike LM-1 since LM-1 controller is inside the car, much cooler but eats up a lot of space.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #1570
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its mtx-l, the problem with uegos its very slow!
ill be calling them on monday to get free sensor, will see how thats going to flow
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #1571
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I had an lc-1 with main unit mounted on my strut bar, sensor mounted at rear o2 location and I went through sensors like nuts. I sold it after the 5th or 6th sensor swap. On an aem now and still on the original sensor. Might give the mtx-l a try though.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #1572
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can sensor get damaged from cleaning it with compressed air?
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:08 PM   #1573
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I had an lc-1 with main unit mounted on my strut bar, sensor mounted at rear o2 location and I went through sensors like nuts. I sold it after the 5th or 6th sensor swap. On an aem now and still on the original sensor. Might give the mtx-l a try though.
I have my sensor for both lm-1 and lc-1 at the back of the turbo exhaust housing. Never need to replace the sensor with lm-1, my lc-1 ate 2 sensors already

I'll try to put the lc-1 controller inside the car, if it still kill sensor that soon, i'll just remove it and put back my lm-1.
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:51 AM   #1574
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As i have 1 available table left thinking to use it for AFR limit under boost, does it make sense?

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Old 09-23-2012, 06:24 AM   #1575
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That's probably going to cut in and out under shifting
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