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Old 08-24-2010, 07:30 AM   #51
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The Mr. Blok made a few claims, some of which caught my attention, namely the x5 time Canadian champion ?

I brought up the lifetime standings page for CARS rally .... am I missing something?

I also noticed this last night, specifically his claims to some WRC events. I found mention of his competing in the WRC, but the only finish i found was like 30th or something.

I also found mention of him on special stage, right next to the word "controversial" in a thread that was about "best DNF excuses".
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hmm. Will snoop around some more ....
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:07 AM   #53
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:47 AM   #54
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Get to work and make parts faster Mark.

Google maps doesn't have any listing for Raceland, except in Louisiana, and that is a place not a buisiness. And one website listed a "Hendrik Blok", as a scammer as a CEO of a Ching Limited in Hong Kong. And funny enough that Sparks Nevada is mentioned too. And Raceland is in Reno. Post #3.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:38 PM   #55
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The worst one I've seen a coilover breaking in half at a track day. This coilover is roughly in the 3k-4k price range:
You are correct, price does not dictate quality. In general the more expensive products have more engineering put into the designs and more quality control put into the manufacturing, but there are certainly exceptions to the rules. There a few companies out there how price their products to achieve a perceived quality/function level.

I've disassembled a set of HKS Hipermax coilovers. At $2400 they are complete trash. There are several forum members who have fallen victim to JIC's $2600 quality control issues in the form of snapped coilovers like your picture. Endless/Zeal over-prices all of their products and few of them are really any good. Cusco's Zero-series is very similar to Tein's Flex coilovers, but cost $1000 more and don't perform any better. And Tein themselves are guilty of the over-pricing in the form of their RA coilovers that cost $1000 more than the Flex and offer less adjustability.

Its difficult to judge quality by price, but considering the comparison data this seems like a pretty open-and-shut case. Even KSport and Megan charge more than double for their proven garbage.
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:04 AM   #56
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so whos going to be the first one to buy it and try it out?!?! i think these would be a better investment

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=84/CA=205

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Old 08-25-2010, 01:49 AM   #57
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so whos going to be the first one to buy it and try it out?!?!
im gonna buy these friday and install them right away i live near reno so i should get them pretty quick. i need some coilovers because i dont like the way my car handles right now. i dont really race or track my car just DD it so i'll let everyone know wats up with them.
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:10 AM   #58
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And Ground Control is in Shingle Springs. Much better choice IMO. Plus you can pick spring rates, awesome.
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:20 AM   #59
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My point is just because these are cheap doesn't mean they are junk.
for $388, it does and they are.

love how a bunch of new members just came out of nowhere to defend these though.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:35 AM   #60
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my friend has these coilovers on his BMW he is dumped to the ground. he hasn't had a problem and hes had them since march/april as a DD






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Old 08-25-2010, 04:35 AM   #61
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Old 08-25-2010, 08:54 AM   #62
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im gonna buy these friday and install them right away i live near reno so i should get them pretty quick. i need some coilovers because i dont like the way my car handles right now. i dont really race or track my car just DD it so i'll let everyone know wats up with them.
If you are only DD you don't need coilovers. Only cars that see a race track need coilovers...and even then a decent set of struts and springs are still more than sufficient for most folks who only run track days as a hobby. Wants and needs are two different things. You want some coilovers because you believe they'll do something they won't. Coilovers don't automatically make the car handle better. They do provide a lower ride height and increased spring stiffness, but that isn't the whole ride and handling equation.

Spend a few dollars more and buy a Ground Control coilover kit for your stock struts. It'll last longer, you can get better springs/spring rates, and your stock struts will provide better ride quality than these cheap **** coilovers ever will. Those of us who have been around the block with suspension parts know these are garbage. We are only here trying to prevent some of you from wasting $400.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:49 AM   #63
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well i'm looking at a 18x9.5 225/40 aggressive setup and i need something where i can handle the ride height. i know ground control can but don't the stock struts suffer when u put too much stress on them?
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And you think Racelands will?
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:11 PM   #65
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so whos going to be the first one to buy it and try it out?!?! i think these would be a better investment

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=84/CA=205
had them, loved them. add konis and you have an amazing suspension.

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well i'm looking at a 18x9.5 225/40 aggressive setup and i need something where i can handle the ride height. i know ground control can but don't the stock struts suffer when u put too much stress on them?
18x9.5 with 225s is NOT aggressive and that's some ass backwards thinking...what makes you think a FULL set of coilovers for less than $400 will be able to withstand the same amount of stress?

you're gonna buy them anyways, so go ahead and do it. let us know how you like them.
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18x9.5 with 225s is NOT aggressive
Is that even a good idea, 225 on a 9.5 rim? I googled and apparently "tyre stretching" is some new fad, heres what that looks like:

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Old 08-25-2010, 01:57 PM   #67
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had them, loved them. add konis and you have an amazing suspension.



18x9.5 with 225s is NOT aggressive and that's some ass backwards thinking...what makes you think a FULL set of coilovers for less than $400 will be able to withstand the same amount of stress?

you're gonna buy them anyways, so go ahead and do it. let us know how you like them.
18x9.5 on 225 with 20 offset is pretty aggressive for me. im just gonna get koni struts and ground control coilovers and call it a day.
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Is that even a good idea, 225 on a 9.5 rim? I googled and apparently "tyre stretching" is some new fad
it's not that new. people have gone even more extreme with stretching tires than a 225 on a 9.5 wheel.

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18x9.5 on 225 with 20 offset is pretty aggressive for me. im just gonna get koni struts and ground control coilovers and call it a day.
if you want to run an 18x9.5 +20, look into bc, stance, or something along those lines. the konis won't like being that low and you'll need the camber adjustment front and rear.
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18x9.5 on 225 with 20 offset is pretty aggressive for me. im just gonna get koni struts and ground control coilovers and call it a day.

Why oh why would you run such a wonderfully wide rim with tires as narrow as a stock WRX?

I would be running a minimum of 255 on a 9.5" rim. Probably 265's if I could.
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Why oh why would you run such a wonderfully wide rim with tires as narrow as a stock WRX?

I would be running a minimum of 255 on a 9.5" rim. Probably 265's if I could.
well i picked up the rims from craigslist. the guy had 225 on 9.5 i personally would go with 235/or 245. they have great thread so i've decided to keep them until they go bald. i got camber front and rear kit so camber wear wont be a problem
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18x9.5 with 225s is NOT aggressive and that's some ass backwards thinking...what makes you think a FULL set of coilovers for less than $400 will be able to withstand the same amount of stress?

you're gonna buy them anyways, so go ahead and do it. let us know how you like them.
if u dont think 18x9.5 225 20offset isn't aggressive what is aggressive? 18x11 and going mexiflush?
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:46 PM   #72
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i just ordered mine sunday and today the shipping guy paid me a visit.
they were packed pretty decent but during shipping the box looks like it got beat up and welds look decent. i'll be installing these as soon as my brother gets back. they look similar to the kyb struts i had with ground coilovers. im pretty impressed with the quality for being $388 and i hope i live up to their hype.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:48 PM   #73
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i just ordered mine sunday and today the shipping guy paid me a visit.
they were packed pretty decent but during shipping the box looks like it got beat up and welds look decent. i'll be installing these as soon as my brother gets back. they look similar to the kyb struts i had with ground coilovers. im pretty impressed with the quality for being $388 and i hope i live up to their hype.
pics??? and when will u install them?
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Old 08-26-2010, 04:05 AM   #74
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... and i hope i live up to their hype.

um, isn't their hype that they're crap? it's their *advertising* that says different. but good luck! i'm guessing they're a really cheap version of the cheap coilovers out there (bc, stance, etc). yes, they, most certainly just use whatever shocks they have, and weld different mounts on the outer sleeves to call them 'subaru specific', but even a broken clock is right twice a day, right? maybe the stars aligned just right for these shocks to be decently for our cars. no one knows until we get some updates!

on a side note, if the sleeves hold up, they could be a cheap option for gutting and sliding a set of koni inserts into with different springs. i did that with my sti pink coilovers. i just wish mine had the threaded-body, height adjustment to make up for the variance in insert length.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:09 AM   #75
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that's a good idea. You would need to use some other type of top mount (stock or plates) though, since those bearings are certainly junk and probably an oddball size.

I actually just finished replacing the ksport plates I was using on my d-spec coilovers because of that. The bearings were some super-strange size and complete crap on top of that.




EDIT: sorry, pre-coffee posting. Obviously, if you used new inserts they would fit normal tops. :P
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