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Old 08-26-2010, 09:27 PM   #1
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Default VERY New Here. Need some Help with Engine Advice on my 09 Impreza Outback Sport

First of all Id like to say hello as I am new here but have owned Subarus for over 10 years.

Almost 2 Years ago I purchased an 09 Impreza Outback Sport for the AWD and gas mileage . I drive about 40K/yr for my job and the upstate NY Winters demand AWD.

Here is the Rub.. I LOVE the car in every way, but I now desire more power for the engine. My wife drives an 09 Forester XT and the Turbo engine in it is EXACTELY what I want in my Sport.

What would be my options in trying to get more power in this engine and what am I looking at in the ballpark of cost? I do not want to trade it in for a different Model if I can make this work under 5K.

Thank you for any advice you can give.,
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:18 PM   #2
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If you want the power of the XT, you're going to need a swap IMO. Swapping an 09 seems a little "not financially smart" since it's so new. You won't really get the power gains you want through normal/basic NA tuning. You'd have to go do cams, headwork, the whole nine yards. Turboing the NA block is out of the question.

If you plan on increasing power, you have two basic options:
1. NA build - a bit harder to meet HP/TQ wants, costs more (not sure if you'd stay under 5K)
2. Turbo swap - easier, you could meet the 5K budget if you do it smart, kinda odd since it's an 09

Pick your poison

Also note, both will leave you with major downtime. If this is your daily driver, I highly suggest you don't follow either route. If you want a daily driver build, maybe my guide on RS25 will help:

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f106/t801...build-faq.html
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:47 AM   #3
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If you want the power of the XT, you're going to need a swap IMO. Swapping an 09 seems a little "not financially smart" since it's so new. You won't really get the power gains you want through normal/basic NA tuning. You'd have to go do cams, headwork, the whole nine yards. Turboing the NA block is out of the question.

If you plan on increasing power, you have two basic options:
1. NA build - a bit harder to meet HP/TQ wants, costs more (not sure if you'd stay under 5K)
2. Turbo swap - easier, you could meet the 5K budget if you do it smart, kinda odd since it's an 09

Pick your poison

Also note, both will leave you with major downtime. If this is your daily driver, I highly suggest you don't follow either route. If you want a daily driver build, maybe my guide on RS25 will help:

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f106/t801...build-faq.html
Super Help , this was exactley what I was looking for with advice.

As it is my daily driver, do you think it makes sense to possibly trade it in for a WRX? Thanks for your help here..
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:59 AM   #4
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Yes, if it's your daily driver, I'd just trade it in on a WRX. Modifying it and getting it to the power levels you want will take weeks if not months depending on how much time you have to spend on it. Plus, you're really gonna need some 'know how' and mechanical knowledge if you plan on staying under 5K. You'd have to do just about all the work yourself to meet your budgets. Even after four years of messing around with these engines myself, I wouldn't mess around modifying things that much unless it was a strict project car you could just pour money into and didn't need to be running anytime soon. In your situation, I'd 100% say just trade it in on a WRX.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:23 PM   #5
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Old 09-04-2010, 08:23 AM   #6
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:56 AM   #7
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The two most simple ways to eek out a bit more power are a K&N filter/lightweight crank pulley (if you haven't done those already). you can also look into a 93 octane tune. I had one done recently and it feels great.
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:00 PM   #8
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The two most simple ways to eek out a bit more power are a K&N filter/lightweight crank pulley (if you haven't done those already). you can also look into a 93 octane tune. I had one done recently and it feels great.
heh...K&N filter. For a cheap $50, this badass filter will net you an amazing 1/4whp while at the same time allowing plenty of dirt into the engine. Sounds like a cost effective mod to me.

The lightweight crank pulley is also a great waste of money. Cmiovino pretty much hit the nail on the head. Without spending big bucks on mods or a swap, you will have to accept the fact that your car will never be as fast as your wife's car.

The most cost effective solution: trade cars with your wife...problem solved
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Old 09-04-2010, 11:51 PM   #9
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If you are driving 40k/yr you are going to keep the car what... 3 years max?

If you want a little more power you could do some basic bolt-ons and 93 octane tune.

If you want more than that, just trade the car. You are going to sink major bucks into an aftermarket turbo or engine swap.
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