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Old 08-29-2010, 11:58 PM   #1
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So I ordered my first WRX a couple of weeks ago. Even with all of the horror stories of a black car, I went with OBP. I asked that the dealer not take off any of the plastic or anything until I got there. I also asked that they not wash and wax the car thinking that the rags they used on all the other cars that day might not be as good as a new one. What steps or process should I take after getting the car home? Any wax suggestions?
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:22 AM   #2
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I was a porter for Saturn a few years around. We were required to remove the plastic in a around the car. Only protection we left were paper floor mats.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:39 AM   #3
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Theres a product out there called black box. Specifically made for black cars. Me and my dad used it on his vette and it looked like glass. Wax Id use turtle wax.
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So I ordered my first WRX a couple of weeks ago. Even with all of the horror stories of a black car, I went with OBP. I asked that the dealer not take off any of the plastic or anything until I got there. I also asked that they not wash and wax the car thinking that the rags they used on all the other cars that day might not be as good as a new one. What steps or process should I take after getting the car home? Any wax suggestions?
Congrats on your new purchase.

Your best case give you have a couple hours to work on the car should be:
- To remove your plastics if they didn't already(I sometimes keep the seats and floors if they have them inside for a little).

- Give the car a really good 2 bucket wash

- Claybar the car's painted surfaces and the glass well(you can pick up a good clay kit locally from Meguiars at Walmart or other stores or order some gear from some of your Nasioc vendors). You will always be surprised at what kind of junk a new car's finish has on it. Though, clay with the surface really well lubricated, Subaru paint is quite soft and can marr lightly with some clay if not careful.

- If you are the polishing type, a couple passes with a paint cleaner either by DA or by hand(Duragloss 501 locally NAPA/Carquest is a great choice for both applications). This will brighten the paint significantly and clean up any surface accumulation or even anything as far as mild oxidation

- Seal it up with a great quality wax or paint sealant, again duragloss locally makes a number 105(not 501 as mentioned) which is super easy on and off or you can query your vendors for suggestions. You can also include the wheels with the wax to make them easy to clean after.

- Give a good vac and dustdown inside if needed, make sure the glass is perfect and go ahead and enjoy your new car!
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:46 PM   #5
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Has anyone ever used Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0?
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:48 PM   #6
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We have used it and it looks pretty good, the one negative thing in my experience with it is that it lacks durability. On the other side, periodically you will see a report of really good durability so its tough to say. A lot of factors go into a waxes durability, including environmental exposure of the car as well as maintenance methods.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:02 AM   #7
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Well a black paint with a metallic in it is much much easier to keep looking good versus a deep black with no metallic.

If you are new to the detailing process i would skip the clay process if you can. Like stated above, if the clay is to coarse it will scratch your paint. So wash your car and with a soapy hand just run your hand around the top surfaces of your car and feel for rough paint or things stuck to the paint.

If it is smooth then skip the clay cause it isnt needed.

If possible I would try to use a pressure washer to wash your car. That will get a lot of stuff off that you dont want in your mitt.

I learned a trick a while ago. Works really well. I used to work at a body shop, so fresh paint is really really soft.

We would wash new paint with a soapy chamois. So if your car is fairly clean a soapy chamois will work great, just dunk in the bucket after washing each panel.

Make sure if your using hard water to dry off really good cause any water left on the paint will likely spot.

Lastly apply a good sealant.

I try to wash my car once a week, or at least rinse the dust off and dry it.

Maybe reapply wax about once a month
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:27 AM   #8
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Has anyone ever used Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0?
I have it's pretty good as a fast easy way to a decent shine but it no Zainos or any good 3 step.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:35 AM   #9
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So I ordered my first WRX a couple of weeks ago. Even with all of the horror stories of a black car, I went with OBP. I asked that the dealer not take off any of the plastic or anything until I got there. I also asked that they not wash and wax the car thinking that the rags they used on all the other cars that day might not be as good as a new one. What steps or process should I take after getting the car home? Any wax suggestions?
I'm sure you'll get a lot of different answers but I'd first wash it with a car wash like Meguiars gold using two buckets one for rinse and one for wash, a foam gun is nice also. If you haven't detailed cars a bit I'd look at some sticky's on here.Then dry it using the Absorber or a towel, etc.. then clay bar it. If you haven't done this before read as well. I think Youtube has videos of a guy call Junkman he is very knowledgeable and fun to listen to and watch. I'll look over there and post instead and you can make a desicion after watching him!
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:38 AM   #10
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:16 AM   #11
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Do not use the Absorber. It's not good for your paint. Pick up a quality waffle weave for drying. As for learning and doing things the right way...watch these: http://detailersdomain.wordpress.com...l-videos-2009/ and read, read, read. This is a good place to start: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1877117

Another good way to be able to tell if your car needs clayed is to place a small plastic bag over your hand and gently run it over the paint. You will need to clay if it feels bumpy/gritty.

As for Meguiars Tech Wax, there's much better out there to be had, but it will do the job. If you use it, expect to reapply monthly. A good durable wax for cheap is Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax No. 845 (http://www.detailersdomain.com/collo...rwaxno845.aspx) or not to cheap Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.detailersdomain.com/menze...ersealant.aspx)

Congratulations on your new car.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:51 PM   #12
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Do not use the Absorber. It's not good for your paint. Pick up a quality waffle weave for drying. As for learning and doing things the right way...watch these: http://detailersdomain.wordpress.com...l-videos-2009/ and read, read, read. This is a good place to start: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1877117

Another good way to be able to tell if your car needs clayed is to place a small plastic bag over your hand and gently run it over the paint. You will need to clay if it feels bumpy/gritty.

As for Meguiars Tech Wax, there's much better out there to be had, but it will do the job. If you use it, expect to reapply monthly. A good durable wax for cheap is Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax No. 845 (http://www.detailersdomain.com/collo...rwaxno845.aspx) or not to cheap Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.detailersdomain.com/menze...ersealant.aspx)

Congratulations on your new car.
Why is this? I've seen them they look like long johns kind of, is this the towel your speaking of ? Also what is wrong with the Absorber? Thanks in advance for the info/help!
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:07 AM   #13
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Absorbers are the towels that come rolled up in a tube. There is no weave or fibers in it to pick up stray dirt/particles, so you just rub it across your paint. Therefore it induces marring and scratching.

Waffle weaves do not look like long johns though lol. They're a regular towel with a weaved fabric construction that resembles a waffle.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:31 AM   #14
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^^^+5 to that. The waffle weave towels may cost more but they are very soft and highly absorbent. Honestly if you are goin to own a black car you have your work cut out for you. However with the right tools your job will be alot easier. And I would definately recommend coating the car, all the rail dust and industrial fallout from the factory and transportation of the vehicle will be embedded in the paint.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:02 PM   #15
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AutoZone waffle weave towels are about $5. They are really nice, but not as nice as the ones you get at Detailer's Domain and other vendors.

And does that guy in the video look like Martin Lawrence?
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:06 PM   #16
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So I ordered my first WRX a couple of weeks ago. Even with all of the horror stories of a black car, I went with OBP. I asked that the dealer not take off any of the plastic or anything until I got there. I also asked that they not wash and wax the car thinking that the rags they used on all the other cars that day might not be as good as a new one. What steps or process should I take after getting the car home? Any wax suggestions?
In all honesty, if you can get them to keep the plastic covers on until you take delivery and then drive directly to a reputable detailer that is probably your best bet. Have them do a "new car" package where they clay the car, polish out any clay marring, seal the paint, wheels, carpets and dash. This will give you a great starting point.

Otherwise, OBP with Subaru's clear coat is going to be challenging to keep up. I cannot go 3 or 4 two bucket, two wash media washes on my red '08 without noticing marring, this includes a high pressure rinse and a foam gun soak prior to hand wash with Einzett Perls or CG Glossworks and Griott's MF wash media. It all comes down to how hyper sensitive you are about it.

If you wanna do it your yourself, I highly recommend you pick up a random orbital such as a PC 7424 or a Flex 3401. Most of the detailing vendor sites like autogeek, detailer's domain, and detailed image sell starter packages that should give you what you need. You will want to make sure you get a medium cut polish, finishing polish and a glaze.

As far as waxes on your black car, i recommend a high quality sealant such as Black fire wet diamond, Einzett Glints or the Adam's line. If you want a really deep wet look you can look into carnauba products but their longevity will not be that of the sealants listed above.

Most of all, remember that the goal is to keep the car looking as new as possible.

Post pictures if you can!
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:08 PM   #17
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We also have a group purchase on an inclusive polishing kit going on until the 5th. We can gladly include a wax or sealant of your choice to the kit if you decide to go this route. We carry a great line of products from a less mainstream brand that actually holds the anti-static patents on a bunch of detailing products.

Its a good idea to get good information and make sure you have the correct supplies to maintain your vehicle(as in wash and drying) even if you choose an outside detailer to prep it because all that is down the drain if its not washed and dried properly.

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Old 09-01-2010, 11:45 PM   #18
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Thanks for all of the info. A buddy of mone jsut picked up the 7424, but has yet to use it. Just waiting on the car now
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Absorbers are the towels that come rolled up in a tube. There is no weave or fibers in it to pick up stray dirt/particles, so you just rub it across your paint. Therefore it induces marring and scratching.

Waffle weaves do not look like long johns though lol. They're a regular towel with a weaved fabric construction that resembles a waffle.
What stray dirt particles? You should have just washed the car. I also just lay mine out and pull it back across the section I'm drying, I don't ever rub with it and I keep mine clean. I don't know what the name for the towel are I saw then they don't look exactly like long johns the squares are probably 3-5 times larger. I think JC Penney has them(some where in the mall anyways)?
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AutoZone waffle weave towels are about $5. They are really nice, but not as nice as the ones you get at Detailer's Domain and other vendors.

And does that guy in the video look like Martin Lawrence?

I think he looks and sounds closer to a E-6 I was stationed with, he's entertaining and knowledgeable. He's an Adam's guy but has used a lot of products over the years. He has 100's if not 1000's of post on Charger and LX forums answering a variety of questions and he may have even be on LS1.com, it's been awhile for me so I can't remember?

I'm going to look into the Waffle towels, thanks ThreeEleven and Da-Risin!
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Don't forget Klasse AIO followed up with the SG. It's one of the toughest sealants I've read about/used. Some go 12 months with the SG, I'd suggest sticking to a 6 month schedule, but it's great stuff. Wax on top of it if you *really* want it to pop for a show or something (I don't bother, it's great as-is).

Here's a how-to for both: http://www.autogeek.net/klasse-usa.html
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Has anyone ever used Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0?
It's an alright wax. Smells pretty nice, has a nice shine, and goes on easy, but the durability absolutely sucks, it stains any black plastics, and it's pretty overpriced for what it is. I'm a big supporter of Collinite 845; it smells pretty funky but it lasts for a good 4 or 5 months, no joke. It's original use was for electrical equipment, so it's an amazing sealant. Plus, its CHEAPER than NXT 2.0 wax!
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Theres a product out there called black box. Specifically made for black cars. Me and my dad used it on his vette and it looked like glass. Wax Id use turtle wax.
Oh God no. Autoglym HD looks great on black cars. I also LOVE collinite 845. You can get it for cheap offline or I think they might sell it in RV stores.
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Is it necessary to wait a certain amount of time after purchasing a brand new car to let the paint out gas etc? I'll my 2011 STi will be here this month and I just want to make sure I'm giving the paint time to settle down.
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Is it necessary to wait a certain amount of time after purchasing a brand new car to let the paint out gas etc? I'll my 2011 STi will be here this month and I just want to make sure I'm giving the paint time to settle down.
No, OEM paint is laid down and cured completely differently than paint from a repair shop. You do not need to worry about paint venting on a car with new factory paint.
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