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Old 09-02-2010, 03:22 PM   #1
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...932875260.html

rebuilt with 600kms only...2010...Subaru impreza...should be able to get it for 14.5k...let me know.

Pre fix pictures show damage was to door only.

Also i know stock is 190 horses...how much would cost to add a little bit more juice in this car?

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Old 09-02-2010, 03:32 PM   #2
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Stock is not 190hp more like 170hp. Just compare this price with how much it would cost you for a new one. Much lower = good deal (all things considered).
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:45 PM   #3
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rebuild engine or rebuilt body?
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:55 PM   #4
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if it's a rebuild title I'm 99% sure you have no factory warranty.
I'd research that.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:03 PM   #5
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I'd say never consider a rebuilt one
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:20 PM   #6
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^ same here, reason why it's cheap because they butcher it knowing it has a bad resale value...

i will really really stay away from rebuilt...
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:36 PM   #7
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Find out why it was rebuilt. Have a shop check over the structural integrity of the frame etc. Then have it mechanically inspected.

If everything checks out, and you don't mind having a rebuilt, and wish to assume the risks that come with it, then go for it.

Just be warned, if you ever want to sell it, you will get pretty much next to nothing for it.

And a lot of problems can/will appear later on.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:03 PM   #8
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it's a good deal if the repair was done right but only experienced body man can tell that
it was sold from vernon icbc salvage yard two months ago
i just looked at the pictures of it from icbc and here's what i see -
there was NO damage to the front and rear so u won't have problems
with the engine and such due to the accident
it had damage on the left side
both doors damaged, roof and driver's seat airbags blown (ask if they were replaced)
well, they should've been cuz now every re-builder has to replace airbags
due to very strict regulation and no rebuilder will mess with it
but most important is b-pillar and rocker panel damaged
u should check if the floor under driver's seat was damaged and repaired
also if rocker panel and b pillar were replaced
ask for 4 wheel alignment report (he should have it)
hell, have it checked by bcaa for ur peace of mind
if everything checks out good then u're good to go
personally i've been driving icbc rebuilt vehicles for the past 18 years
and so most of my friends and we don't have any problems with them
(in fact one of them just bought rebuilt 09 impreza for $12 and very happy with it)
and i myself have two imprezas and a bimmer with rebuilt status
and yeah, u should be able to get it for 14,5 taxes included, trust me!
ok, don't tell the guy u got this info from me!
i don't know who fixed it but chance is we might know each other=o)
hope this helps
good luck and let us know how did it go!

as for resale value u would be amazed but u WILL loose less money
then if u bought brand new
most people like truenosan simply don't realize it or don't want to =o)
here - brand new costs 30 from the dealer, 33 with taxes (roughly)
this one 14,5
the difference is 15K already!
lets say u sell it one year later
with clean title u'll sell it for 16-19 (if u're lucky)k's
and u loose (33-19)= 14 grand!
rebuilt u WILL sell for 14,5-11(the worst case)=3,5
now u do the math

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Old 09-02-2010, 05:12 PM   #9
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it's a good deal if the repair was done right but only experienced body man can tell that
it was sold from vernon icbc salvage yard july 5th
i just looked at the pictures of it from icbc and here's what i see -
there was NO damage to the front and rear so u won't have problems
with the engine and such due to the accident
it had damage on the left side
both doors damaged, roof and driver's seat airbags blown (ask if they were replaced)
well, they should've been cuz now every re-builder has to replace airbags
due to very strict regulation and no rebuilder will mess with it
but most important is b-pillar and rocker panel damaged
u should check if the floor under driver's seat was damaged and repaired
also if rocker panel and b pillar were replaced
ask for 4 wheel alignment report (he should have it)
well, have it ckecked by bcaa for ur peace of mind
if everything checks out good then u're good to go
personally i've been driving icbc rebuilt vehicles for the past 18 years
and so most of my friends and we don't have any problems with them
(in fact one of them just bought rebuilt 09 impreza for $12 and very happy with it)
and yeah, u should be able to get it for 14,5 taxes included, trust me!
ok, don't tell the guy u got this info from me!
i don't know who fixed it but chance is we might know each other=o)
good luck and let us know how did it go!
Yes but you yourself have and do rebuild cars. I have a buddy that does it also and yes I trust his rebuilds as you trust yours and so do your friends.

But this is an unknown rebuild unless it's yours in which case you can't trust it based on your ability to rebuild and then drive such vehicles. Buying a rebuild is still very iffy, I wouldn't trust any except my buddies but thats only because I know him and I can watch the whole process happen and he'll show me everything wrong and whats replaced. Thats like watching your car get built in the factory.

Buyer beware is not a stupid slogan.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:22 PM   #10
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alexinvancouver.

Thanks for the info,...gives me some more negotiating power

I sent this info but did not use your name..hahah
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:34 PM   #11
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Thats like watching your car get built in the factory.

Buyer beware is not a stupid slogan.
yep, couldn't agree more
i know a few guys who do sloppy jobs
that's why i said - only experienced body man can tell, remember?
i had a few repeated customers who wanted me to buy and fix
a particular vehicle for them
basically they see it from the day it gets to the shop from icbc yard
and all the way to the end
and that's the best scenario possible
but here's the guy who wants an opinion now and i gave him the best i could
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alexinvancouver.

Thanks for the info,...gives me some more negotiating power

I sent this info but did not use your name..hahah
apreciate it,
glad to help fellow club member =o)
also i'd take a closer look at a-pillar at the very bottom where the lower hinge is
there's a chance it had a slight push inside
not a big deal and should've been easily repaired though
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:43 PM   #12
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:00 PM   #13
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brand new costs 30 from the dealer, 33 with taxes (roughly)
this one 14,5
the difference is 15K already!
lets say u sell it one year later
with clean title u'll sell it for 16-19 (if u're lucky)k's
and u loose (33-19)= 14 grand!
rebuilt u WILL sell for 14,5-11(the worst case)=3,5
now u do the math
That one there is the base model. My mom drives a 2010 2.5i hatchback with the sports package and it's 27000 out the door, brand new from specialty, which means the base model would only be around 26000 give or take a few hundred.
As for losing less money selling a rebuild vehicle, I agree, but finding a buyer would be a lot more difficult. People assume the worse for used vehicles and they'll assume that the cheaper it is, the more problems it has and most people wouldn't really go through the trouble.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:02 PM   #14
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JC,

Thanks I really appreciate...Im just looking for a nice looking auto car for 15K...I went after a subie because of the AWD...I test drove an 2010 Impreza sedan on Sunday in auto at Subaru in Langley...nice handling but with 190 horses pure gutless...as per my previous post...what would it cost labour and parts to bring it closer to the high 200's in horsepower...Ive never had a car with less then 285 horse....so when i drove the car I was not impressed...cant and dont want to buy a WRX as only come in auto and the new ones are alot more then what I want to spend right now.

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Old 09-02-2010, 08:09 PM   #15
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JC,

Thanks I really appreciate...Im just looking for a nice looking auto car for 15K...I went after a subie because of the AWD...I test drove an 2010 Impreza sedan on Sunday in auto at Subaru in Langley...nice handling but with 190 horses pure gutless...as per my previous post...what would it cost labour and parts to bring it closer to the high 200's in horsepower...Ive never had a car with less then 285 horse....so when i drove the car I was not impressed...cant and dont want to buy a WRX as only come in auto and the new ones are alot more then what I want to spend right now.

Manny
their 170hp still not 190hp. and auto will make it feel much less. it'll also feel slower since you drive RWD which has less driveline loss and if your only used to 285+hp cars in RWD the ONLY cars that will give you even close to that feel are the flat 6 or WRX/STI.

All of which are out of your budget. Your only hope is to fine an 06/07 WRX auto and mod it up a bit.

You should be able to find one in your budget since the 5 speed cars are 18k+ an auto should be alittle less.
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for that price + having a rebuilt status..
1.those prices are higher,
2.all those vehicles are older
most older body style
and some
3.had accidents
(sorry, had to make sure =o)
there's always a reason why the price is lower
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:13 PM   #17
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As for losing less money selling a rebuild vehicle, I agree, but finding a buyer would be a lot more difficult..
i agree, there're less buyers for a rebuilt,
but i personally find that if i put it on my name and drive it for a year or more it's easyer to sell then if it's been fixed just yesterday
it has a history and receipts and a real owner behind it
if u know what i mean =o)
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:15 PM   #18
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just like what Drakar said, an 02-07 wrx, is your best bet if you're looking to get at least 200+hp in your price range..

i dont think you'd be able to gain at least or close to 200+HP in a 2.5i, unless you mod it like crazy..
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:52 PM   #19
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reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a rebuilt golf TDi. some time later it needed to have like 2k throw into it to make it all good again. -_-
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:21 AM   #20
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just like what Drakar said, an 02-07 wrx, is your best bet if you're looking to get at least 200+hp in your price range..

i dont think you'd be able to gain at least or close to 200+HP in a 2.5i, unless you mod it like crazy..
Couldn't agree more.

Even if you spend thousands of dollars on the 2.5i and have 200HP, you just spent few thousand bucks for minimal HP gain... and your 2.5i will still be slow without proper suspension upgrades(which you'll spend another few thousand).
I'm a 2.5i MY09 driver myself, and have plans for it, but those are not for powers but suspension and transmission upgrades...

If you have to have an AWD car with decent power which handles nicely, you are much better off with a GD WRX.

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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...932875260.html

rebuilt with 600kms only...2010...Subaru impreza...should be able to get it for 14.5k...let me know.

Pre fix pictures show damage was to door only.

Also i know stock is 190 horses...how much would cost to add a little bit more juice in this car?

Manny

Nothing wrong with a rebuilt car just get Dales to throw it on the aliment machine you can tell a lot about it that way.

Also if you are already looking to make it faster might be better getting into a used wrx or sti from here or the US and importing it. As you will probably never be happy the power.
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