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Old 09-06-2010, 09:50 PM   #1
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So I have in the past used AutoCAD and Solidworks. I am a student in college for Automated Machine Engineering and want something for home use. I own a mac but am trying to dual partition it to run windows. I need some software that is free and easy to use to simply draw up some skematics. If you know of any for Mac OS X let me know, I currently need somewhere to put my ideas till I get windows.

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Old 09-07-2010, 09:30 AM   #2
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Pro Engineer has free versions for college students. Thats what software they are using now at Pitt for the Engr. Programs, and is also what I use at work. I made sure I downloaded the free version before I lost access to my school e-mail address....

Most people like SolidWorks > ProE. They are similar, just different interfaces.

http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/edu...&icg_dbkey=851
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:18 PM   #3
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I think that SolidWorks and ProE are vastly different. ProE was difficult for me to get the hang of after using Inventor/AutoCAD for years, while I picked up on SolidWorks pretty easily. IMO if you are building complex components or assemblies with lots of parts and sub-assemblies (1000's of parts/assemblies), ProE is the way to go. It takes a little getting used to, but it pays off with the time saved with the larges assemblies. If you are going to be doing smaller parts or less complex assemblies (Max out around 1000 parts/assemblies) SolidWorks or Inventor will work just fine.

I know SolidWorks and Inventor offer full versions of their software at a deeply discounted rate for students and if your university is a certified training site, you should be able to get them for free. I wasn't aware that ProE was offering free versions to all college students but thought their program was similar to that of SolidWorks and Inventor, where they offered a deep discount unless your university is a certified training center.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:12 PM   #4
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I have the free student version of pro e. Used it for a class last semester. Once you get used to it, it's pretty easy. As stated above, most people like solidworks...although I don't think there is a legal free version.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:51 PM   #5
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I have the free student version of pro e. Used it for a class last semester. Once you get used to it, it's pretty easy. As stated above, most people like solidworks...although I don't think there is a legal free version.
My school has a few copies of it again this year and give them out to students that deserve them (aka willing to use the software for our Baja team). So if I can show an interest and design parts for them I can get a copy for a year.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:33 PM   #6
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That would be good. From what I hear, solidworks is much more common in the workforce. Except in the higher level industry (nasa, bmw, etc.), you start using stuff like Catia...very cool.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:56 AM   #7
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Most of the large auto's are using CATIA as their prime software. Ford, GM, BMW, VW, Toyota, and Honda at least. Boeing and EADS are also primarily CATIA. fast377 was right that NASA uses a lot of Dassault products as well (CATIA, DELMIA, ENOVIA and the like)

Solidworks is owned by Dassault now (who makes CATIA) and the interface has really matured in the latest revisions. I don't have any trouble switching back and forth between CATIA and SW. If you're a small business looking for a robust CAD package at a reasonable price, SW is hard to beat. It's ~$8k for a full featured seat (minus any analysis packages).

I'm not a ProE user, but it does hold a pretty firm grasp in the Shipbuilding and civil markets. UG NX has a decent market share as well. I have a hard time with the ProE interface, but it's probably just because I'm so used to something else.
Inventor (the 3D CAD side of Autodesk's software) seems to have really gained some ground in the last few years. I don't have any experience with it, but from what I understand it's very beginner friendly and it sure looks awfully pretty. It's also cheaper than the competing products I believe.

There are some free or very cheap offerings out there, but I just don't have any experience with them so I can't make a suggestion. Obviously Google sketchup is a pretty popular toy.
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:03 PM   #8
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does anyone know of any pipping add-ons for SolidWorks? I am trying to design my own headers and turbo kit. I been using the loft and sweep with 3D sketches but it is a pain .

Or maybe just a software for designing manifold and exhaust?
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:22 PM   #9
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SolidWorks is IMHO the easiest tool to use for making mechanical automotive parts. It is also (relatively) inexpensive compared to equally featured packages. SolidWorks and a CNC machine are a mean combination...
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:24 PM   #10
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does anyone know of any pipping add-ons for SolidWorks? I am trying to design my own headers and turbo kit. I been using the loft and sweep with 3D sketches but it is a pain .

Or maybe just a software for designing manifold and exhaust?
They have one called Pipeworks, but the ultimate header design tool is a plug in for MatLab. I need to find a goo link, but it is an amazing package - it will auto route the header tubes from flange to flange based on design inputs. Amazing stuff.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:25 PM   #11
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That would be good. From what I hear, solidworks is much more common in the workforce. Except in the higher level industry (nasa, bmw, etc.), you start using stuff like Catia...very cool.
FYI, Desau Systems owns both SolidWorks AND Catia.
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I'm not a ProE user, but it does hold a pretty firm grasp in the Shipbuilding and civil markets. UG NX has a decent market share as well. I have a hard time with the ProE interface, but it's probably just because I'm so used to something else.
Which shipbuilding industry are you speaking of? I don't know of any that use ProE. Northrop Grumman, Electric Boat/Groton and all of the smaller yards that I have worked with in the past are all Autodesk (AutoCad/Inventor) junkies. The one exception to that, is anyone working on the newest generation of Aircraft Carrier. They are designing it using CATIA, but (The last I worked on that project) was still using V4 as the upgrade to V5 was causing major headaches as well as a major amount of capital.

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Inventor (the 3D CAD side of Autodesk's software) seems to have really gained some ground in the last few years. I don't have any experience with it, but from what I understand it's very beginner friendly and it sure looks awfully pretty. It's also cheaper than the competing products I believe.
I think it is ironic that our opinions of SolidWorks and Inventor are exactly the opposite. SW and Inventor interfaces are almost identical. Creating work planes, sketch planes, and axises. Then extruding, cutting, and sweeping are all nearly identical between the two. And while I agree that both are pretty beginner friendly, IMHO SolidWorks falls short.

To each their own I guess.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:19 AM   #13
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Check out Googles' 'Sketchup'. Free 3D modeler with tutorials on youtube.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:44 AM   #14
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does anyone know of any pipping add-ons for SolidWorks? I am trying to design my own headers and turbo kit. I been using the loft and sweep with 3D sketches but it is a pain .

Or maybe just a software for designing manifold and exhaust?

Have you added the piping toolbar?


This may help you:
http://help.solidworks.com/2010/engl...d68dddebeb99bf
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:01 PM   #15
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i know as far as piping goes jd2 makes a pretty good program and they make good pipe bender they let you dl the software right from there website its free other than that i always used autodesk inventor for all cad
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:22 PM   #16
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We use SolidEdge at school. They have a free student version. I'm not sure if you can get a license, or if your school has to request one.
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If you're a student, Autodesk gives 1 year lisc for free. Also, they are developing a full version of AutoCAD for OS X. As a mac user, this makes me very very happy.
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If you're a student, Autodesk gives 1 year lisc for free. Also, they are developing a full version of AutoCAD for OS X. As a mac user, this makes me very very happy.
Yeah I am awaiting this, I know they have like 2 other version available so I am hoping they get AutoCAD out soon, I am a student so I will be able to get the free license.
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Being an aerospace student I'm all about CATIA. Pretty much my whole class has "free" copies of CATIA V5R19 on their computers. I've only used it for part and assembly design, haven't gotten into the really god stuff yet.

[hijack] Does anyone know if there's a preferred fluid dynamics software for CATIA? So far I've found Fluent and CFDesign. Looking to design a new CF intake manifold for the SVX.[/hijack]
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AutoDesk just announced it:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...&siteID=123112

The English language version of AutoCAD for Mac is now available for purchase in North America and Europe from leading resellers, online retailers and Autodesk.com.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:57 PM   #21
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AutoDesk just announced it:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...&siteID=123112

The English language version of AutoCAD for Mac is now available for purchase in North America and Europe from leading resellers, online retailers and Autodesk.com.
THANK YOU!!!

I have been checking the site for weeks waiting for this to arrive
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I use solidworks all the time and it is the best I think. I have used Pro-E and AutoCAD many times. I have all of this available to me for free but all three of them offer a student edition for free or cheap.
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