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Old 09-12-2010, 03:49 PM   #1
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Default Clay bar smearing woes

I'm using a blue clay bar kit from detailersdomain and I cannot get it to stop smearing. I've clayed other cars before and never had this problem. I'm using 2oz ONR to 1 gal distilled water as lubricant and I'm soaking the bar and paint when moving the clay. I'm not using any pressure, just enough to keep the clay in contact with the paint. I cannot seem to keep it from catching the paint and smearing. The spot on the hood I've started on now looks terrible because there are smears everywhere.

First, anyone know of a way to remove the clay smears?

Second, any suggestions on what to do to keep it from smearing?
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:35 PM   #2
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It sounds like its the clay. Some clay bars just do this with certain clay lubes. I actually like to use some other QDs as a lubricant as it lets the clay slip alot better on the direction change - but both protect and lubricate well to pick up gunk and not marr the surface.

Have you tried claying with your wash solution? Sometimes soaps can actually degrade some clay slowly but in my experience some soaps provide much better lubricity than ONR, and I use ONR a ton. It all depends on the situation.

Also is the clay smearing on the entire stroke? Or is it just where you stop and change directions?
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:04 PM   #3
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Smears both when I change directions and when I'm just sliding it.

One thing I noticed about ONR is that it seems to make the water ball up and sheet. I would think that's the last thing you would want to lubricate. I'm thinking that I'm hitting these bare spots on the paint between balls and that's what is tripping it up.

I found that IPA takes the clay off no problem. So at least I could get rid of the bad smudges.

I may try Meguiar's clay kit and lubricant as it has worked well for me in the past.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:34 PM   #4
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....I have used ONR as a clay lube before but I went with the QD ratio which is 8oz:1gallon instead of the suggested 2oz:1 gallon. If ever do get clay residue on the paint, I can usually just spray the area down with my lube and then go back over with the clay to pick it up.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:40 PM   #5
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Maybe its just not lubricating enough. Have you had this issue with other brands of clay/QD kits? Have you tried different quick detailers? Do you dry the car after washing/ before claying? ive used megs detail kits and I havent had any issues but for my money, I use the adams kit. sure, it may be a bit more expensive, but their QD is some of the best out there.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:46 PM   #6
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Car was washed correctly and dried. Surface was cool and drenched in lube before I started. Clay was also lubricated before touching car.

I've used Meguiar's clay bar kit before with zero problems. I didn't even get 60 seconds into claying this car before I created another 15 minutes of cleanup for myself. I think that the lubricant isn't appropriate for this clay which is surprising since it's sold as a kit. I'll be trying a higher concentration of ONR to H2O and if that fails I'll try the Meg's detail spray as lubricant.

One thing I notice about this clay is that it's very very sticky and smeary. It smears on my hands, on the container, on the plastic bag ect. The Meguiars clay that I have left seems a bit more solid and doesn't want to transfer to anything I touch it to.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:34 AM   #7
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It almost sounds like the clay you chose, sometimes it just happens. I would say give it a shot with a heavier ONR concentration and then with your Meg's QD although I would be curious to its outcome as well.
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