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Old 06-14-2012, 06:16 PM   #576
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did it come this clean or did the covers end up in your dishwasher?
Any final decisions on cams yet?
The motor is pretty ridiculously clean. The top of the block, near the starter bulge has a strange white powder leaching from the block. Right where the starter grounds to. I'm sure this is some sort of galvanic reaction. Either way, it brushed right off.

This week, I stripped off the manifold, the timing belt covers and belt and removed the camshafts. At every step, it was clear that this was the first time any of it had been disassembled. The bolts has zero wrench marks on any of them. Strangely enough, I had very little trouble removing the cam gears which leads me to believe it is truly a low mileage motor as promised as those bolts tend to get super tight on higher mileage motors. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I got them off with only the short breaker bar and a normal exertion.

The inside of the timing belt cover has ZERO belt dust or shavings. The belts were all in perfect condition without a hint of cracking or wear. Good signs. The inside of the valve covers was perfectly clean and silver. No gold staining and absolutely NO sludge. Also good signs. The cams and their races were mirror finish smooth. Not a single score or line on any of them.

The turbo is confirmed to be a VF36, twinscroll, ball bearing unit. It spins freely and the housing does not show any signs of wear. The compressor housing did have about a quarter of a teaspoon of oil in it though which is a bit strange. The inlet has a very light residue as well. Perhaps normal blow-by. Hopefully the seals are fine. :fingers crossed:

Hopefully this speaks to the overall condition of the motor. :fingers crossed:


Some things I've noticed so far:

1. Timing cover has a slight crack/punch mark in it.
2. TMIC has a hole or two. It could easily be welded and fixed, but I will be getting a refund for it.
3. Oil pan is slightly dented.
4. No lower block studs for the transmission.
5. The EJ207 does NOT use a PCV valve, but rather a simple "T". This is OEM.



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Old 06-14-2012, 06:20 PM   #577
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The compressor housing did have about a quarter of a teaspoon of oil in it though which is a bit strange.
Mine did too. Found out when jay turned the motor on the stand and it poured out onto my head
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:25 PM   #578
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As far as cams, I have not selected a profile yet. I am still collecting data on what the motor comes with and how that compares to the EJ257/255 cams.

So far, I've only measured lift on the EJ207 V8 Spec-C cams (from this motor) and a set of EJ257 cams that I borrowed from Jay (thank you). I'll be picking up a set of EJ207 V9 cams from Alex this weekend to measure as well. I will get duration numbers on all of them too.

Concerning lift, I've found that the EJ257/255 cams have more lift on both the Intake and Exhaust compared to the EJ207 V8 Spec-C. I am told the V8 Spec-C and non-Spec-C use the same cams. We shall see.

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EJ257/255:
Intake: 9.58mm
Exhaust: 9.80mm

EJ207 V8 Spec-C
Intake: 8.88mm
Exhaust: 9.58mm

Just looking at the two, it seems like the lobes on the EJ207 are fatter than the EJ257, but that could simply be an optical illusion. I won't make any claims until I measure them.

I am looking to at least try the lift of the EJ257, and perhaps more, but I also do not want to do springs so it's a balance. Based on the observed duration numbers I'll go from there in selecting an option.

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:27 PM   #579
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Mine did too. Found out when jay turned the motor on the stand and it poured out onto my head
Well, that makes me feel a bit better since your car seems to be running great.
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Old 06-15-2012, 03:34 PM   #580
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:26 PM   #581
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i like those special edition blue head studs! got any closer pics of the external oil cooler lines? if thats what it is, im surprised about the lack of spacing between the timing cover and the header for clearance.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:36 AM   #582
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Bumping this up cause work needs to get done!!

i <3 you!!!
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:27 AM   #583
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:28 AM   #584
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And The Updates Are???
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:35 PM   #585
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He just doesn't want to admit he got it all together then crashed it, what a noob...:troll:
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:14 AM   #586
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Ok, I've been working on the car a bit as time allows. Work still has me for 10-12 hours a day so it's taking a while.

This weekend, I decided to clean up the engine bay. I figured now that the motor is out, this was the perfect time to clena and paint the bay. I don't know how it works with other car manufactures, but Subaru likes to save money by only painting the motor bay with a base coat... and a lousy one at that (primer shows in several areas). I like black bays, but decided to continue the WRB exterior color into the bay.

Jay and I had some WRB mixed locally and put into spray cans (cheaper than Grimmspeed and others at about $11 a can with a 4 can minimum I think due to the minimum paint mix amount). The match is pretty damn close. Certainly its good enough for a motor bay where there are lots of shadows and all. For a rattle can job, it looks pretty good. We used a VHT hard clear so hopefully it will be somewhat chemical resistant I guess only time will tell. It still needs one more coat which I will probably do tomorrow after work.

It's not a shaved bay, I'm not that much of a baller. I simply wanted to clean things up a bit and make the motor bay a bit less of an eyesore.

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Motor bay minus the motor:


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Motor bay cleaned out and sanded/scuffed up:




Masked off (longest part of the job!):




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Old 09-17-2012, 12:16 AM   #587
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Base coat down (WRB color):






Clear applied (still need one more coat) (these are night shots with a florescent overheads and flash on so it s bit bright!):






After I do the last coat of clear, I will be deep cleaning all the parts that were removed and then reinstalling them. I will then re-bleed the brake system that was opened up.

Again, up close, there are some imperfections, and I did nothing to shave the bay, but it is a HUGE improvement over the blotchy factory bay paint. I'm happy with the results. Not bad for $80 in supplies and a weekend's work.

There is a very real chance that this paint will look better than my exterior paint, which is in a sorry, sorry state.

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What kind of prep work/brand products are you doing to some parts you paint. Love the work progress so far.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:02 AM   #590
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Damn, whoever helped clear that did a great job
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That made a big difference. Can't wait to see if with everything back together.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:23 AM   #592
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What kind of prep work/brand products are you doing to some parts you paint. Love the work progress so far.
A lot of the suspension (green things) are powder coated and were scrubbed clean with gas/ethanol and then sand blasted prior to coating.

The other things that I spray painted were scrubbed cleaned with gasoline/ethanol to remove all grease and tar and under coating. Then I wire brushed then either by hand or with a drill. Usually I stripped them down to bare metal. Then I paint using primer, paint, clear. Or some combination of that. I never paint over grease/dirt as that simply won't last. Some parts I cured in the oven.

For the engine bay, I scrubbed out all dirt/grease with a brush and simply green. Then I cleaned the bay with soapy water top to bottom. Then I used a scotchbrite pad to scuff and sand paint every where. Then I removed the dust with compressed air. Lastly I wiped the bay down with alcohol as a final cleaning.

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:45 AM   #593
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A lot of the suspension (green things) are powder coated and were scrubbed clean with gas/ethanol and then sand blasted prior to coating.

The other things that I spray painted were scrubbed cleaned with gasoline/ethanol to remove all grease and tar and under coating. Then I wire brushed then either by hand or with a drill. Usually I stripped them down to bare metal. Then I paint using primer, paint, clear. Or some combination of that. I never paint over grease/dirt as that simply won't last. Some parts I cured in the oven.

For the engine bay, I scrubbed out all dirt/grease with a brush and simply green. Then I cleaned the bay with soapy water top to bottom. Then I used a scotchbrite pad to scuff and sand paint every where. Then I removed the dust with compressed air. Lastly I wiped the bay down with alcohol as a final cleaning.
Awesome input - any preferred brand of primer/ black paint for under body parts? I'm currently working on a similar project - restoring an older legacy ss.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:20 AM   #594
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damn that looks good!!!

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hahaha I know how you feel! That looks sick as hell man! I'm glad you did before and after pics, love the transformation.

OK...i'm assuming you already know (reply that you do to make me feel assured/look stupid) but otherwise listen carefully...if you haven't re-assembled ABS already...before you bring brake fluid (aka "devil juice") anywhere near the car...at every brake fitting, ABS motor, pretty much the entire ****ing engine bay, like cover with paper towels and shop rags and anything else you can think of. What I did was put paper towels below all the brake fittings/junctions and then towels around the whole master cylinder/ reservoir area...and still, like one drop somehow got spilled on my shock tower and really ruined my whole decade. I ****ing hate brake fluid. God i hate brake fluid sooooooo much. I hate it.


but seriously like one drop. and now there is a quarter size spot of metal amongst the paint. i ****ing hate brake fluid.

that looks awesome though...god i hate brake fluid.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:10 AM   #595
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Might be too late now but Space Age sells a clear that has a hardener in it (or catalyst or whatever it is that make auto paint so good.)
They can actually put it in a rattle can, though it does has a short shelf life, like 24 hours or something. They told me about it when I did my last project.

You should look into getting a bead blaster. We have one at my work and it is freaking amazing! I'm slowly bringing in my car piece by piece....

But I'm sure you'll get the same amazing results with all of the time you put into it!

Remember I've got dibs on the vf36!
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hahaha I know how you feel! That looks sick as hell man! I'm glad you did before and after pics, love the transformation.

OK...i'm assuming you already know (reply that you do to make me feel assured/look stupid) but otherwise listen carefully...if you haven't re-assembled ABS already...before you bring brake fluid (aka "devil juice") anywhere near the car...at every brake fitting, ABS motor, pretty much the entire ****ing engine bay, like cover with paper towels and shop rags and anything else you can think of. What I did was put paper towels below all the brake fittings/junctions and then towels around the whole master cylinder/ reservoir area...and still, like one drop somehow got spilled on my shock tower and really ruined my whole decade. I ****ing hate brake fluid. God i hate brake fluid sooooooo much. I hate it.


but seriously like one drop. and now there is a quarter size spot of metal amongst the paint. i ****ing hate brake fluid.

that looks awesome though...god i hate brake fluid.
Just need to take a spray bottle with soap and water and spray everywhere, so if the brake fluid drips it just runs down and you see it and have time to clean it before it messes it up
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well yeah that too, duh. Everybody knows that...you think I didn't know that???

But like sometimes Jay, even with the spray bottle full of soapy water, a drop can still be spilt and mess up your paint, thats like what happened in my case you know...

...god damn it
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well yeah that too, duh. Everybody knows that...you think I didn't know that???

But like sometimes Jay, even with the spray bottle full of soapy water, a drop can still be spilt and mess up your paint, thats like what happened in my case you know...

...god damn it
or you can just go **** yourself
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:22 PM   #599
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Looks great Ken! Much better than the crappy base coat subaru throws in there.
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It really sucks that this Ken guy is such a tasteless ricer...
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