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Old 06-25-2002, 06:34 PM   #1
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Question Brake upgrade questions

I am in the process of brakeupgrade evaluation. I have done some search but still wonder which way to go. I do not auto-X though one day I might. I am your basic freeway flier and everynow and then a canyon carver. I have nice suspension upgrades spt stuff, sway bar and endlinks. I may do some power mods in the future. The Stoptech brakes seem like an neat thing but they a bit pricey for me and I have to wonder if I really need and or want all of that. So I am stuck between the basic better pads, fluid and SS vs the Subaru four pots. Anybody have some input via some experience Id like to hear it....
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Old 06-25-2002, 07:24 PM   #2
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With that kind of activity, you will probably not be generating the heat to necessitate larger brakes.

I'd put on high performance pads, fluid, lines, etc... and call it done. Chew through the stock rotors and use some thing else when you're done with them. Simply the pads are a great improvement over stock.

I liked the addition of the H6 setup in the rear, it seemed to make high speed braking more stable, you may consider that.

Now with the 4 pots in the front with the stock subaru pads, it seems to be about the same as the sliding caliper and Metal Masters. I assume better pads will improve things further.
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Old 06-26-2002, 01:39 AM   #3
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Hmm,
okay. Now Metal masters are a brand of pads from what I have read. Please excuse my ignorance but I am not sure what the term sliding caliper means

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Old 06-26-2002, 01:40 AM   #4
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Concurred based on your intended uses. Spend some time researching pads, there are a fair amount to choose from. You'll want pads w/ good cold bite and that are rotor friendly, you may also want pads that are low dusting and relatively quiet.

I'm running Endless pads, but there are others (too many to mention) that will also fit the bill.

I saw a sale in the group buy forum for goodridge lines for $90 shipped, that's a good price.

Choose a quality DOT 4 fluid and you'll be pleasantly suprised over the braking difference over stock with simple mods.

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Old 06-26-2002, 02:55 AM   #5
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Yes, Metal Master is a compound of pad. The brand is actually PBR (or Axxis, same compound is sold under both names...my box said PBR)

HP street pads:

PBR/Axxis Deluxe
PBR/Axxis Metal Master
PBR/Axxis Ultimate

The Metal Master will kind of be obsoleted by the Ultimate, as the Ultimate is pretty much better in every way as I understand. All of those are cheap ($50 a set or so) The Metal Masters squealed a bit when cold and didn't bite as much on the first stop. My brother uses Deluxe compound on his Bimmer, and they are a step above OEM and a step below the Metal Masters. VERY low dust, good cold bite, no squealing at ALL, limited in the upper range of temps, but we didn't fade them on ccanyon runs.

other brands/compounds:
Hawk HPS

Carbotech Panther
Carbotech Panther+

Mintex 1144
Mintex 1155 (has a rep for chewing rotors when run under optimum temp)

EBC Green (has a rep for chewing rotors)

Endless (lots of compounds) supposedly excellent pad compounds. They better be at close to $200 a set.

Pagid Blue (excellent rep overseas, again expensive ~$200 a set)

That's what I'm coming up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. Look at the bbrake pad post, I'm sure it's no further back than the last day or two.

Sliding caliper is what the stock calipers are. They have two pots on one side of the caliper and sliding pins that work to allow the caliper to pull the other side as well. Pistons on one side do the work for both sides. As the pads wear the caliper will change position relative to the hub.

The 4 pots have 2 pots on each side, and the caliper is fixed and never moves ralative to the hub. 2 pistons push each pad. The only thing that moves is the pistons.
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Old 06-26-2002, 06:55 PM   #6
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Thanks for your time and knowledge and shared experience guys!!!! I failed to state that I had 17 wheels and 225 tires but I suspect that the upgrade of pads,fluid and SS lines will still be sufficient. I will read a few more posts about the Subaru four pot and consider the price and then contemplate all of that then make a good informed decision!!!!!!!!!!
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