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Old 10-07-2010, 09:39 AM   #1
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Default how to remove old coat of wax from car?

I have read various things saying not to use dawn soap on your car. If this is the case what should I use? Anything I can grab locally??
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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any of the chemical guys citrus car washes in the proper dilution will safely strip the wax off your car and theyre cheap.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:13 PM   #3
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Why not use dawn soap? Many detailers use it all the time.

I use Dawn Soap to prep my car for waxing and for a 16 year old car, I'd say it worked just fine.


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Old 10-07-2010, 12:14 PM   #4
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thanks for the info will get an order into them ASAP, just need something I can get locally. If nothing is out there I guess I'll just use dawn for the time being and hope it isn't as bad as some say.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:16 PM   #5
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Why not use dawn soap? Many detailers use it all the time.

I use Dawn Soap to prep my car for waxing and for a 16 year old car, I'd say it worked just fine.


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From what I've read it actually removes oils from the paint. Don't know if it's true and as long as you're following up with a proper detail I can't see how it would hurt anything however I'd like to be as safe as possible.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:18 PM   #6
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oils from the paint? come on lol...

think about that for a second. its fine on the paint. the reason people say dont use it is because it strips the protection but if thats the plan then its fine.

follow up with a good detail and make sure you protect everything including the trim/weather stripping.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:25 PM   #7
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If Dawn stripped clear coats and oils from car paint, then I wouldn't feel safe using it on my mom's German china.

Like what Dice said. People say that because they use it on a regular basis for years and their paint fades.

It DOES what it supposed to do, strip any protection. Follow up with some clay bar if necessary and a good wax and I guarantee you'll be impressed.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:36 PM   #8
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any of the chemical guys citrus car washes in the proper dilution will safely strip the wax off your car and theyre cheap.
+1 for chemical guys, i use it before i wax and detail clients cars, and its awesome.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:48 PM   #9
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thanks a ton guys for clearing that up, I figured that was the case and I was missing something. Dawn it is! any dilution ratio or just a good squeeze or two and fill up the bucket?
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No specific ratio...... i just used palmolive to do my car. Ive used Dawn too, it really made no difference. One thing i have done is soap up the whole car, let it sit for about a minute to do its magic and then continue washing.... but i wash my car in a enclosed area, don't do this in the sun. LOL
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When I mounted the factory rear bumper protector and side moldings on my car, the instructions from Subaru specified rubbing alcohol for cleaning the surfaces. It removed the wax easily, but the car was pretty new.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:18 PM   #12
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Rubbing alc will severely soften the clear coat for a while ( hours ) if not damage it. Its acts like the purple or blue stuff used to prep PVC pipe before gluing it.

The Subaru Manufacture says to use it so the adhesive gets a good bite for proper adhesion.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #13
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I use CG as well but I will use dawn too...heard some claim that dawn can be tough on plastics over a while but I've never encountered this.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:23 PM   #14
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Rubbing alc will severely soften the clear coat for a while ( hours ) if not damage it. Its acts like the purple or blue stuff used to prep PVC pipe before gluing it.

The Subaru Manufacture says to use it so the adhesive gets a good bite for proper adhesion.
....they say to use it because it will effectively remove any residue, wax/sealant, etc. on the surface so the adhesive will adhere directly to the paint and not some product that may compromise the mounting. It's the same reason it's used by many to prep scratches/chips before touching up and the same reason many professionals use IPA for wipe-downs of paintwork to remove polishing oils, LSP's, etc. Something like Prep-Sol is also effective for this. I would be curious to hear where you learned that it will soften and damage paint.

OP, Dawn should be perfectly safe for periodic use. I've used it in the past and still do in a pinch myself. If you're really concerned, AutoAesthetica has mentioned success in simply using some car wash products in a concentrated solution. I've read his posts and I believe he knows what he is talking about. Also, if you plan on claying the car, keep in mind that action alone would be enough to remove many wax/sealants in itself. ....add a prewash with the Dawn, a strong solution of car wash soap, etc., and that and it's sure to strip off whatever you have on the finish.

Personally, I typically use CG CWC as some others have mentioned here as well. There are other popular washes out there including decontamination systems like Valugard ABC and FinishKare that are even more thorough.
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