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Old 10-09-2010, 10:27 AM   #1
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:23 PM   #2
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Dude for real there is already a thread. Don't be an azz by starting a thread for me. In the real world you'd be slapped for a hit like that. Don't do me any favors. I was posting in skids thread because we all are interested in superchargers. But simply just like the N/A boys have a stick up their butt so do SC or bolt on FI. Seems only the stock turbo guys have anything interested to talk about. It's pretty shocking since you'd expect n/a guys to be a closer bunch but that's not the case her. So if you have a question about raptors SC PM me or look at raptors thread for good insite on the kit. I'll gladly help anyone out and won't be a choud about it like some people in supercharger build thread.
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:16 PM   #3
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Dude for real, you haven't got one of your own, and that's long overdue.

There's a reason that people seem to have a "stick up their butt", but you'll never know what it is because you're blind to the idea that when people tell you that what you're writing here is incorrect, it's very possible that it's so.

READ THIS UNTIL IT MAKES SENSE: People will give you flack when you imply that your car violates the rules of thermodynamics.

I tried to explain this to you in a PM. Look into it, and learn something about how your car works.

As for this thread's purpose: Your plans for your car have been smattered all over the forum time and time again. Your pictures have shown up in other people's build threads over and over. How about, locate all your stuff in one place instead of mucking up the whole tech section? It's not asking a lot.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:01 AM   #4
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First off if I'm traveling with a climate of 86 degrees...and start driving thru a forest with a temp of 76 degrees due to climate change and temps yet the area around is significantly higher outside of the non moist area but my intake charge reads 78 in a general climate of 86 ho is this against the laws of physics. So honestly if I say my intercooler signi. cools my intake charge then it cools my intake charge. What you don't seem to understand that piss's me off is that temps will never be the same due to climate elivation, wind chill and direction....hence why you read on weather info of 87 feels like 92 or 81 this exact reason. Living in the caribbean we go thru climate changes just from driving thru a low valley where air is cooler at the bottom. Ica nget a 3 degree drop just by driving my car or bike(more so from bike) thru it. So don't tell me what I have experianced to be false,keep your chitter chatter I have people I personally know that I get my advice from not Ignorant people on NASIOC. Because someone says it means I'm wrong lol I like people to prove themselfs before I go beleiveing or changing my idea of thought thank you very much. How do you want me to prove my intake temps can get lower than ambient temps..easy drive thru different weather hot and cold zones..simple as that
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:05 AM   #5
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Dude for real, you haven't got one of your own, and that's long overdue.

There's a reason that people seem to have a "stick up their butt", but you'll never know what it is because you're blind to the idea that when people tell you that what you're writing here is incorrect, it's very possible that it's so.

READ THIS UNTIL IT MAKES SENSE: People will give you flack when you imply that your car violates the rules of thermodynamics.

I tried to explain this to you in a PM. Look into it, and learn something about how your car works.

As for this thread's purpose: Your plans for your car have been smattered all over the forum time and time again. Your pictures have shown up in other people's build threads over and over. How about, locate all your stuff in one place instead of mucking up the whole tech section? It's not asking a lot.
Simple answer....no thnaks I post pics where pics where being posted or I had a question stop the what most would call hating cause I post a pic of my car..simple
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:54 AM   #6
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You guys need to take this off the forums to email or pm
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Old 10-10-2010, 06:52 PM   #7
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Thank u I agree. It was a poor way to throw a nife at me. I stopped posting in skidds thread F#%* him personally. On here and rs25.com admin needs to lock this on the request of me.
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Old 10-10-2010, 06:58 PM   #8
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Thank u I agree. It was a poor way to throw a nife at me. I stopped posting in skidds thread F#%* him personally. On here and rs25.com admin needs to lock this on the request of me.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:46 PM   #9
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Cool story bro.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:09 PM   #10
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The level of that VI displays is astounding!!

The statement, made by VI, that spawned this thread

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Well at 7 psi maybe intake charge is at 86 degrees on a hot 96 degree weather. No not a waste cause I want to go 9-10 very soon. So not a waste of time. Just got a map from Sean for the accessport there was a 30% fuel reduction due to throwing a to rich cel p0172 now it's fixed and runs even better now. I love it. Can't wait for 10 psi on this thing haha. Then new motor next year. Gona be a great thing.

You seem to just wanna think that everybody is "Hating" on you... when the fact is we're just hating on your statements. You say something dumb, we call you out on them, you just just spew hate. Sad dude... really sad.

And, no mater what the 2nd law of Thermaldynamics says, you're still right.!!

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First off if I'm traveling with a climate of 86 degrees...and start driving thru a forest with a temp of 76 degrees due to climate change and temps yet the area around is significantly higher outside of the non moist area but my intake charge reads 78 in a general climate of 86 ho is this against the laws of physics. So honestly if I say my intercooler signi. cools my intake charge then it cools my intake charge. What you don't seem to understand that piss's me off is that temps will never be the same due to climate elivation, wind chill and direction....hence why you read on weather info of 87 feels like 92 or 81 this exact reason. Living in the caribbean we go thru climate changes just from driving thru a low valley where air is cooler at the bottom. Ica nget a 3 degree drop just by driving my car or bike(more so from bike) thru it. So don't tell me what I have experianced to be false,keep your chitter chatter I have people I personally know that I get my advice from not Ignorant people on NASIOC. Because someone says it means I'm wrong lol I like people to prove themselfs before I go beleiveing or changing my idea of thought thank you very much. How do you want me to prove my intake temps can get lower than ambient temps..easy drive thru different weather hot and cold zones..simple as that
Yeah... that's it! the laws of Physics are wrong!! Not you!!
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:48 PM   #11
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im really not sure where this thread came from, but is the point you are trying to make, that its impossible to have intake temps lower than ambient temps.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:57 PM   #12
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With the use of a simple intercooler yes, it's impossible.
Use ice, meth, CO2 and various other forms of "work" based cooling, and yeah! You can.
But, not with a standard Air-to-Air front mounted intercooler.
Which is what our friend VI has.

P.S. this thread really just came from a handfull of people wishing he'd start his own build thread instead of random postings on many other threads. Also from being sick of VI posting up nonsense in these random posts, and crying about everybody hating on him when his assertions are challenged.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:31 PM   #13
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As for this thread's purpose: Your plans for your car have been smattered all over the forum time and time again. Your pictures have shown up in other people's build threads over and over. How about, locate all your stuff in one place instead of mucking up the whole tech section? It's not asking a lot.
THIS was this thread's purpose. I wasn't trying to call him out, I wasn't trying to "throw a nife at" him.

See, every turbo thread, every NA thread, and even every supercharger thread does not need:
* The same three pictures of VIsubi's car
* The same "over the next year" boost and build plan for VIsubi's car
* The same (often incorrect) reasoning why centrifugal superchargers are a gift from God
* The same (frequently incorrect) statements and advice

In an effort to stop the madness, I did what VIsubi should have done - create a thread called "VIsubi's Raptor Supercharger build", and here we are.

This was pre-empted by a pair of civilized PMs from me. Talk about fail - I may as well have been talking to a brick wall.

So you tell me... What's the proper solution for stopping a constant, widespread flood of superfluous or incorrect information? I'm surely not the only one who's weary of this guy's ego spam and misguidance.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:38 PM   #14
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THIS was this thread's purpose. I wasn't trying to call him out, I wasn't trying to "throw a nife at" him.

See, every turbo thread, every NA thread, and even every supercharger thread does not need:
* The same three pictures of VIsubi's car
* The same "over the next year" boost and build plan for VIsubi's car
* The same (often incorrect) reasoning why centrifugal superchargers are a gift from God
* The same (frequently incorrect) statements and advice

In an effort to stop the madness, I did what VIsubi should have done - create a thread called "VIsubi's Raptor Supercharger build", and here we are.

This was pre-empted by a pair of civilized PMs from me. Talk about fail - I may as well have been talking to a brick wall.

So you tell me... What's the proper solution for stopping a constant, widespread flood of superfluous or incorrect information? I'm surely not the only one who's weary of this guy's ego spam and misguidance.

Im sure if anyone is stupid enough to believe what he says then they deserve to try it and have it fail miserably.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:43 PM   #15
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When ever I fail miserably I'll let you know. So far I haven't minus you three fellows account for my failure or failure to be. I'm glad u started a thread on my notations lol. As for posting picks there are 4 threads where I posted pics of my car. Two being picture threads 2 being build threads and oh yeah on being my engine bay after install in a FI thread or FI how to. So again stop hating. Depending on your location has everything to do with how your intake charge temps react. In a shady feisty forest compared to a twisty coastline road temps all change. Shucks why do you think you have highs and lows you ignorant F#%ks. I compare my temps with my outside temp gauge in my car to the intake temp gauge on my AP. Ranges are always different but I have had charge be +/- a degree higher or lower. Call it thermometer reading slower or faster than intake reading who knows but it is what it is.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:40 PM   #16
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OK so what you have really been trying to say is that the Innercooler does not cool your intake air lower than ambiant. And that you are experencing slower sensor update times between the OAT and the SAT that make it appear that way momentairly.
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:53 PM   #17
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No that due to changes in ambient temps my readings some times drops below for brief time that's all. Is it due to slower calculations by ecu and thermostat maybe. Is it impossible not at all. Elevations alone can cause temp changes.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:42 PM   #19
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Dude, What part of this don't you understand. Your Innercooler can not dynamically cool the intake air lower than ambient period!
I gave you a way out here so take it! DuH!
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Seeing someone say that ambient air drawn into a system which uses ambient air for cooling can somehow see a reduction in temperature makes me .

@ thread in general though.
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Dude, What part of this don't you understand. Your Innercooler can not dynamically cool the intake air lower than ambient period!
I gave you a way out here so take it! DuH!
NO2 Spray may lower temps lower than ambient been still Intercooled, so its possible.
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No that due to changes in ambient temps my readings some times drops below for brief time that's all. Is it due to slower calculations by ecu and thermostat maybe. Is it impossible not at all. Elevations alone can cause temp changes.
So I ask you this. At sea level your ambient temps are 75. While driving you reach an altitude of 3000 feet where your temps are now 63 with intake charge of 68. Is your intake charge not lower than the ambient air at sea level? I've been saying this over and over again. Ambient temps are not a set in stone temp it changes in more than one way. Such as my example stated and many others have stated.
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Seeing someone say that ambient air drawn into a system which uses ambient air for cooling can somehow see a reduction in temperature makes me .

@ thread in general though.
Yes no ***** but this may work for a cai but once you compress air it builds heat by alot. So that 83 degree air maybe bumped to 130 degrees but with force behind it. Bring tfat charge down to or as low as ambient even with some form of intercooler cooler. A bag of ice water in a sprayer can do this. Even a bag of ice on intercooler for 10 mi it's gona be cooler than ambient temp.
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So now we are adding additional cooling media to aid the innercooler to drop temps. Of cource that will make a difference. However this claim of yours is with only an innercooler. You will say anything to believe your own Bull**** . Enough already! Why don't you share some usefull information to help someone instead of making your hole bigger. Thats of cource if you can!
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So I ask you this. At sea level your ambient temps are 75. While driving you reach an altitude of 3000 feet where your temps are now 63 with intake charge of 68. Is your intake charge not lower than the ambient air at sea level? I've been saying this over and over again. Ambient temps are not a set in stone temp it changes in more than one way. Such as my example stated and many others have stated.
What in the... Holy crap... this is one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time. No.. no... actually.. this is THE dumbest thing I've ever read.

It's 75F at the coast in LA, but my car is up at top top of Mammoth Mountain where the air is 68F, and my car is reading 68F (next to impossible with 7psi, no such thing as a 100% efficient intercooler) on it's intake temp sensor, therefor my intercooler is cooling to below the Ambient of 75F!!

Ambient temps refer to the temp of the air entering your car!!! Not the air temp somewhere else!!

Dude... you just can't accept when you are wrong can you? Lame dude.. lame. Go get one of your "expert" friends to read your posts and threads, and the'll tell you what we've all been trying to tell you. Your logic is flawed!! And you're too stubborn to see it.
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