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Old 10-11-2010, 05:34 AM   #1
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Default AEM UGEO 30-4100 and logging with Romraider

Hey guys, I have a AEM UGEO 30-4100 wideband and I was wondering how to log the wideband readings in romraider data logging. As of right now I have the tatrix cable 1.3, and i'm logging my car using romraider data logging software. My question is, from the AEM UEGO 30-4100 wideband I hooked up the power(red) and the ground(black) so far, now its my understanding that the remaining 2 wires white(0-5V output) and blue(serial output) are used for data logging. How and where would I hook up either or both of these wires (white/blue) to beable to log with romraider using my tactrix cable? thanks in advance.

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Old 10-12-2010, 06:24 PM   #2
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Bump for an answer to this. I just called AEM. Romraider has the ability to log the AEM UEGO, by clicking Plugins and then AEM UEGO. Problem is we need to connect either the white or blue wire onto one of the pins on the tactrix cable. Question is which one?? Help!
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:36 PM   #3
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I had a conversation about this a while back. You can use a usb to serial cable or a serial cable and plug the wire into the correct pin ( cant remember which it is) and that will allow you to datalog with rom raider or cobb tuner aswell.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:21 PM   #4
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so basically you would take the white or blue wire and hook it to the un know pin still on the serial end and then plug the usb end into the laptop. Then rom raider will recognize it? hmmm i guess i'm gonna have to do this the trial and error way. i'll keep searching in here to see if i can find where you talked about it.

Bump for help from anyone else though that may just know this or has experiance
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:51 PM   #5
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I have used the method in the uego manual to make logging with romraider possible. go to radio shack and purchase a female crimp type db9 connector. they are in the trays with all the other nerdy stuff. afaik the only way to log the uego w/o romraider is here http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflas...ial-cable.html with evoscan (dont flame i know its an evo site) or here http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic....4319&start=525 with the standalone logger but good luck finding the right pigtail to make it work.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:00 PM   #6
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one of these convos from back in the day just poppe dup in either the built motor thread or the open source tuning section
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:38 PM   #7
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I have used the method in the uego manual to make logging with romraider possible. go to radio shack and purchase a female crimp type db9 connector. they are in the trays with all the other nerdy stuff. afaik the only way to log the uego w/o romraider is here http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflas...ial-cable.html with evoscan (dont flame i know its an evo site) or here http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic....4319&start=525 with the standalone logger but good luck finding the right pigtail to make it work.
I run this method on my evo and it works great, but i dont see anything in that thread about a subaru. Are you saying that with evo scan you can tie the output wire of the WB to the computer then log through the tatrix cable?
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:09 PM   #8
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You get the DB9 Serial Connector from Radio Shack.
The pinout is readily available, you *SOLDER* the UEGO wires to the corresponding pins on the DB9 connector. Do not crimp.
Then, you buy a Serial --> USB adapter online. Done.
All you have to do now is hook up your tactrix and your USB connector from the UEGO and in Romraider choose the plugin. It will have a setting for the COM port just like the tactrix cable, choose the correct COM that coincides with your UEGO.
It's not that hard really.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:17 PM   #9
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yea thats what ive been reading but it seems like nobody can get it to work worth a crap
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:33 PM   #10
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that's how I log it, works great. I'll have the UEGO connection drop out 1 log out of 50. I used the pinout included with the UEGO.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:48 PM   #11
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thanks man, appreciate it, what version of romraider are you running
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:34 PM   #12
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I'm running the latest build on windows 7 64bit.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:42 PM   #13
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perfect thats what ill be using, thank a ton man
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:46 PM   #14
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I got this out of the manual from my wideband,this explains what todo::

Serial Output

The serial output can be used for data logging when an EFI system is not accessible. To run the data stream, a RS-232 (DB-9) Female Receptacle shall be purchased.

1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9

Figure 5

Wire View of RS-232 (DB-9) Male Plug Two wires need to be connected to a RS-232 serial port. The BLUE wire from the AEM UEGO Gauge shall be connected to Pin #2 (RX) on the serial port for receiving data. Page 7 Pin # 5 (GND) on the serial port shall be grounded. If a standard 9-pin serial cable is to be cut instead, the (RX) wire is typically RED and the (GND) wire is typically GREEN. However, this should be confirmed with a continuity tester before attempting.

(Figure 5)
Use HyperTerminal for testing the data stream. This software is found on most PCs. To find HyperTerminal go to: Start | All Programs | Accessories | Communications | HyperTerminal. Name the New Connection and click OK. Set the COM port to the one being used and click OK.

Bits Per Second = 9600
Data Bits = 8
Parity = None
Stop Bits = 1
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Verify the settings above and click OK. When power is supplied to the AEM UEGO Gauge, AFR (or Lambda) data will be displayed, as shown below. (Figure 6)

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Data logging with Hyper Terminal UEGO Sensor

If attempting to route the UEGO Sensor through a tight space, AEM recommends temporally removing the light grey latch from the Bosch connector, as shown below, or, routing the smaller six pin connector through the hole.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:36 PM   #15
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I run this method on my evo and it works great, but i dont see anything in that thread about a subaru. Are you saying that with evo scan you can tie the output wire of the WB to the computer then log through the tatrix cable?
Not on subies i was stating that there are different ways to log a uego on a subaru other than with romraider.
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You get the DB9 Serial Connector from Radio Shack.
The pinout is readily available, you *SOLDER* the UEGO wires to the corresponding pins on the DB9 connector. Do not crimp.
Why would you *SOLDER* a crimp style connector? http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103806 Radio Shack also sells the *PROPER* crimp tool for the job. It wouldn't fit in the female connector of the DB9 plug if it had a glob of solder where the wire slides in the connector. I have made a half dozen of these and logged one for over a year without any issues.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:36 AM   #16
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Not on subies i was stating that there are different ways to log a uego on a subaru other than with romraider.

Why would you *SOLDER* a crimp style connector? http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103806 Radio Shack also sells the *PROPER* crimp tool for the job. It wouldn't fit in the female connector of the DB9 plug if it had a glob of solder where the wire slides in the connector. I have made a half dozen of these and logged one for over a year without any issues.
I wouldn't *SOLDER* a *CRIMP* style connector... I would get the correct connector in the first place. Crimps fail, there are many things that you do under the dash where soldering is highly recommended. If you have "globs" of solder then you're doing it wrong, but if you like crimps that's fine. My UEGO used to be crimped, because I was in a hurry to get it installed. It held for about a year, then the ground crimp wore out; I had to get back under there and solder it all together anyway. Now it's a much cleaner install and I know I don't have anything to worry about. Do it once, and do it right.

Good luck OP, you shouldn't have any trouble getting your UEGO logging for you in no time regardless of how you connect it.

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if you're not comfortable with all that you could just try this cable

http://www.bustedfingermotorsports.com/aem.html
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:54 PM   #18
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good link!
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Good call on BFM, seeing a need and filling it.
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This is what I did for about 20 bucks.

Amazon.com: StarTech.com - Serial adapter - DB-9 (F) - RJ-45 (F): ElectronicsAmazon.com: StarTech.com - Serial adapter - DB-9 (F) - RJ-45 (F): Electronics

The back side is a connection for a ethernet cable, I just cut it off and ran the wires out the back.

Amazon has the serial to usb adapters pretty cheap as well,

Amazon.com: TRENDnet USB to Serial Converter TU-S9 (Blue): ElectronicsAmazon.com: TRENDnet USB to Serial Converter TU-S9 (Blue): Electronics

Works great, I'm logging with a UTEC with the UTI from jeffsoftware.

The serial wire from the UEGO goes to pin 2 and a ground wire to pin 5 as stated above.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:11 AM   #21
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Awesome, I was looking for this info on which cable goes where to the db9 female connector. I'm hoping I have better luck logging with this instead of the LC-1 I have, I have not been able to hook to RR so I gave up on it. I'm gonna need it for my next tune!
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #22
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Awesome, I was looking for this info on which cable goes where to the db9 female connector. I'm hoping I have better luck logging with this instead of the LC-1 I have, I have not been able to hook to RR so I gave up on it. I'm gonna need it for my next tune!
You could have just read the owners manual for your wideband. But your search bumped a semi-quality thread.
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I bought the AEM uego and wired the serial to usb cable. I can't see any data on rr. It is like rr does not recognize any com link. When I click on the com link on rr there is nothing there. Any advice what to do?
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:15 AM   #24
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I bought the AEM uego and wired the serial to usb cable. I can't see any data on rr. It is like rr does not recognize any com link. When I click on the com link on rr there is nothing there. Any advice what to do?
http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic4857.html
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BUMPING for a bit of feedback!

Been searching here and there, but haven't found any information specific to my issue.

30-4100 itself reads and responds fine. Wired a serial port with ebay serial-USB2 cable. When plugging into the port, there's data being fed, but most of the time, under a minute into live reading, something hangs, and all that is reported is the last value before the hang. Gauge itself is still reporting accurately, it's just the RR log will show the last good value.

Anyone have a similar experience?

I have messed with different USB ports and the receive/transmit buffer. Seems like a lower transfer rate helps delay the eventual hang, but I haven't messed with any other settings.
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