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Old 10-11-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default Bigger wheels or lowered suspension to get rid of wheel gap?

I dont have the money for something like this right now, merely tossing the idea around, maybe a good spring project.

Anyways... I want to get rid of most of my wheel gap.

*Want*
Cleaner looking car
Less wheel gap

*Do Not Want*
A slower car
A car thats going to rub everywhere
To have to roll my fenders


So whats my best option? Should I look around for some 18" wheels (2" more than my stock 16") Will these bigger wheels make my car noticeably slower? How do they work with the speedometer too do I have to change something so that reads correctly? A larger diameter tire means the RPMistance traveled ratio would be offset and make my speedometer read conservatively right?

Or should I lower the car?

Which one can be done cheaper? If lowering the car is just a set of springs I would consider that sooner. But I need to do a whole kit like shocks and springs I think that would be well out of my budget.


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Old 10-11-2010, 09:44 PM   #2
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:03 PM   #3
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youve got the right idea...but generally 18s are a little too big for our cars, unless youre into herrafrush
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:06 PM   #4
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by the time you buy new wheels and tires for said 18" wheels.
you could easily have some Dspecs struts and springs AND have a better riding, better cornering car.

I vote for Dspecs and pick your springs

and yes, 18's are noticeably slower than even the stock 17's on my STi.
They would make the WRX even slower. unless you get some te$as money wheels that are lite... but then you go talking about a budget...
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:06 PM   #5
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To reduce wheel gap you must get SPRINGS. Larger rims and stock springs will make the gap LARGER.

For your 05, get Eibach Pro Kit Springs. I had it on mine and it was great.

Stock Springs w/ 16s


Stock Springs w/ 17s


Eibach Pro Kit w/ 16s (winter mode)


Eibach Pro Kit w/ 17s


Eibach Pro Kit w/ 18s
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:09 PM   #6
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Not to be a jerk, but this belongs in Newbies and FAQs, NOT general community.

Second, 18" wheels don't really get rid of wheel gap.... typically the tire height is lower... so if you go from the stock WRX 205/55/16 to a 215/45/17 notice the middle number goes down? So that 17" wheel example doesn't change the wheel gap at all. The diameter of the tire/wheel is almost exactly the same

If you were to stay with a relatively medium profile tire on an 18 inch wheel, your wheel gap would decrease. And your speedo would read lower than the speed you are actually traveling. And your acceleration would decrease.

Simplified answer: you are looking for lowering springs. Somewhere on this forum is a chart with drops. Most people will suggest you don't drop it too much, especially on stock shocks, they will die quickly if you don't listen...

chart: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695688

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Old 10-12-2010, 07:08 AM   #7
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I say lower it.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:40 AM   #8
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I have new (Spring) tires on my wheels anyways and I kind of like the way they look, so I am glad keeping them is the best option.

Thanks guys

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Old 10-12-2010, 12:08 PM   #9
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youve got the right idea...but generally 18s are a little too big for our cars, unless youre into herrafrush

I run 18 X 8 SSRs and they fit fine inside the fenderwells with no rubbing issues.
However, a larger wheel requires a lower profile tire to keep the outer circumference the same (and not throw off your speedo, etc.).
This will not help with wheel-to-fender gap. For that you need springs/coilovers.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:00 PM   #10
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Personally, split the difference. Go with 17's and a slight drop. The 17's will be lighter and cheaper than 18's and you can run a tire with a bigger sidewall, which equals a smoother ride. Generally a drop of an inch or so can be achieved with springs and you won't have to replace your struts.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:20 PM   #11
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Personally, split the difference. Go with 17's and a slight drop. The 17's will be lighter and cheaper than 18's and you can run a tire with a bigger sidewall, which equals a smoother ride. Generally a drop of an inch or so can be achieved with springs and you won't have to replace your struts.
this guy has the right idea
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Old 10-12-2010, 02:06 PM   #12
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lower it, unless you slam in West Side style your car wont be slower. It will actually handle better
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Old 10-12-2010, 02:20 PM   #13
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D-specs and RCE Yellow or RCE Blacks (slighty softer than the yellows) would be my suggestion. Having the stiffness adjustable is great. I ride with a stiffer setting, but if my better half and I go on a trip, I can tune it down and have a near stock feeling.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:27 PM   #14
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^ That setup is way too expensive for me. I am looking to spend 200 or less to drop my car an inch or so for a cleaner look. I would like this to help the handling while I am at it too, I wont do it if performance will suffer.

Possible?
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:37 PM   #15
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^ That setup is way too expensive for me. I am looking to spend 200 or less to drop my car an inch or so for a cleaner look. I would like this to help the handling while I am at it too, I wont do it if performance will suffer.

Possible?
Provided you're ok with just using lowering springs.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:42 PM   #16
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Just do both I am lowered on Epic springs with 18"s looks sweet
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:52 PM   #17
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I run 18 X 8 SSRs and they fit fine inside the fenderwells with no rubbing issues.
However, a larger wheel requires a lower profile tire to keep the outer circumference the same (and not throw off your speedo, etc.).
This will not help with wheel-to-fender gap. For that you need springs/coilovers.
I also run SSR 18x8 with 235/40/18 and i love them. Only rubbing occurs at full turn with uneven surface. I have coupled those with TEIN Flex coilovers and the end result is very good looking. Also if you get decent wheels, you should not have a noticeable difference in acceleration, just dont buy heavy wheels ( check the weight before you buy). Also keep in mind, you can do it in steps. it might take a while but over about a year maybe you can have the complete package you want.

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Old 10-14-2010, 11:59 PM   #18
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Everyone seems to love their epic springs. I think I might grab a set myself. : )
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:22 AM   #19
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^ That setup is way too expensive for me. I am looking to spend 200 or less to drop my car an inch or so for a cleaner look. I would like this to help the handling while I am at it too, I wont do it if performance will suffer.

Possible?
The way I see it, if you go cheap on something like this, you end up buying the more expensive parts later on. Might as well get the "better" parts first. I'm really picky when it comes to suspension. I've done suspension work on 4 different cars. I think I spent more on the first one because I tried to go cheap on the first round. When the parts started to rust and break, I bought a mid grade. They didn't work well. I finally bought a higher end setup. Stayed with that until I sold the car.

Having said that, to each his own. You could find a set of lowering springs and use the stock struts. Just make sure that the struts can handle them. There are quite a few springs out there that are designed for aftermarket struts only.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:59 AM   #20
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Bigger wheels don't reduce wheel gap.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:09 PM   #21
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^ That setup is way too expensive for me. I am looking to spend 200 or less to drop my car an inch or so for a cleaner look. I would like this to help the handling while I am at it too, I wont do it if performance will suffer.

Possible?
You probably should just stop thinking about this idea then.

Seriously. If you cant afford to do it right, don't even bother.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:28 PM   #22
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^ That setup is way too expensive for me. I am looking to spend 200 or less to drop my car an inch or so for a cleaner look. I would like this to help the handling while I am at it too, I wont do it if performance will suffer.

Possible?
With $200 you CAN find a decent set of used springs. But then you still need to get re-aligned, and your struts won't likely be very happy. I would wait until you can afford at least some replacement struts (kyb gr2's) or you will be paying for an alignment twice. Just some numbers for you: $200 on springs, $350 on struts (I think), and $80 on an alignment. That puts you at about $630 for lowered car that handles pretty good. If you add some camber bolts (another $30) and get a performance alignment (like $20 more than a regular alignment), you will have a much better handling car that imo has a more aggressive stance.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:37 PM   #23
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Ive been running the Epic springs for over 2 years on stock struts.. No issues yet....
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H tech springs, KYB GR2 or Tokico blues, and 225/45/17 tires will put you where you want to be and still maintain probably the balance I can think of between cost and performance.

Going 2 inches with just one or the other (18" wheels with stock suspension or 2" lowered suspension with stock 16" tires and wheels) will be all wrong in both looks and performance.
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epic is what i'm running and i love the look on a 45 tire.
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