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Old 06-16-2002, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default H&R springs on WRX, Alignment kit?

Anyone who as installed H&R Springs on a WRX, was an alignment kit needed (like the Eibach one)?

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Old 06-17-2002, 04:05 PM   #2
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i needed an alignment.. but not an alignment kit (what is a kit exactly? camber bolts?) .. basically, i didnt need to add anything else to the car. just got the alignment.
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Old 06-17-2002, 06:09 PM   #3
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Yep, it looks like it's just bolts to give you more camber adjustability than stock. Basically the kit is $30/axle. I'm going to install the kit this weekend and see if alignment is needed. Ie. is the steering still centered, does the car track straight while coasting, under power, and while stopping. If those things check out then I'll probably wait to do an alignment until I get some new wheels (not that this should affect alignment). Alignment's not too expensive, it's just a hassle that I would rather not deal with until I actually have tires that I care about.
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Old 06-17-2002, 08:38 PM   #4
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Stop !!!
I installed H&R's on my wrx and ordered the eibach kit from tire rack
I ended up sending it back unopened. The wrx has plenty of adjustment to tune for camber and caster
I had mine set up for cornering but I still wanted to have tire life
just find someone that knows what they are doing!
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Old 06-17-2002, 08:51 PM   #5
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Yep, I ordered the H&R springs without the Eibach Kit today. I heard from some other Bay Area people that the kit wasn't necessary. If it is then I'll get it later.
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Old 06-17-2002, 09:04 PM   #6
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Quote:
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Stop !!!
I installed H&R's on my wrx and ordered the eibach kit from tire rack
I ended up sending it back unopened. The wrx has plenty of adjustment to tune for camber and caster
I had mine set up for cornering but I still wanted to have tire life
just find someone that knows what they are doing!
Caster is not adjustable on the WRX. I know the only way to adjust it on an RS is with an ALK, im sure the wrx ALK also alows it.

if yo want to change your rear camber, your going to need the kits.

the wrx runs alot of neg rear camber from the factory, and it will be alot more after you drop it, so It may be a good idea to install the kit as well, maybe just on the rear.

always get an alignment after any kind of suspension work. You can kill a tire in less then 100 miles if toe is not set correctly.

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Old 06-18-2002, 08:53 AM   #7
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What McDade said.

Also, the H&R springs will change the rear camber to about -1.7. You'll still be able to bring the fronts up to about -1.4 with the stock camber bolts, and you can do this yourself with the stock front camber bolts.

But you're gonna have to go to an alignment shop to fix the toe, and that's something you can't eyeball, feel (unless it's way way out of whack), or do yourself. And it definitely will have changed with a new ride height.
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Old 06-28-2002, 01:34 AM   #8
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I'm installing H&R springs next week and was going to get an alignment to-
Front -1.5deg camber, 0 toe front&rear.. Does this sound good? Is -1.5deg camber possible in the front? Or is -1.4 the most as RidinLow suggested? Also where are the front camber bolts so i can point it out to my alignment shop(there prob. not familiar with WRXs) Also how do alignment shops adjust the toe to 0? Is there another bolt that sets the toe geometry, where is this located? The alignment shop might know all this already(where to find the bolts on my car) but just for my own knoweledge I'd like to know..
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Old 06-28-2002, 07:36 AM   #9
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The difference between -1.4 and -1.5 is negligible, and well within the margin of error, especially since they jack your car up on the alignment rack and gently let it back down again... then they align it, you drive away, and the suspension will settle differently once the car's under it's own weight again.

Also, if they just turn the camber bolt while leaving the other knuckle bolt tight, you'll only get around -0.9 or so, so make sure they loosen both!
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Old 06-28-2002, 02:02 PM   #10
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If you have a garage, you can get the toe pretty close. On an RS, you can adjust each tie rod end for toe. Adjust for near zero. I would be surprised if the WRX is terribly different.

I use an aluminum 1" box stock piece to put against my wheel. Use a leveled carpenter's square to mark the floor at the front and rear of the wheel. Roll the car back and measure the distances with a metal tape measure. You will not be totally accurate, but with a lowering of a car can be 1/2 inch off or more (mine was 1/2" off). Correct to zero. Drive a bit. Remeasure. An alignment shop can get it closer to what you want now. Also, remember that camber changes will affect toe as well.

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