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Old 01-27-2012, 01:38 PM   #6151
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anyone have any real data on power loss front a catted down pipe? every post i find when searching is people going stage 2...at that level...the power loss is moot.

im looking for real world data on power loss with a bigger turbo and a catted down pipe. ive dragged a hole almost all the way through my down pipe and ive got to replace it.
M@ told me, that for my car, a 3" catless v. the factory 2.5" catted, with the 3" SPT exhaust, the stock turbo, and the stock fuel system, would only result in an approximate 5 hp increase. He told me that a 3" cat less downpipe and an external wastegate would yield a higher increase in h.p., obviously, which I intend to add when I hopefully upgrade the turbo, injectors, fuel rails, intercooler, pistons, etc.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:57 PM   #6152
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Cost is the main reason to go catless, and longevity. We see a lot of older aftermarket catted downpipes with failed cats or pieces rattling inside.

As power levels go up, the exhaust becomes a restriction. Heck with a gt35r even a 3" straight pipe is a restriction! To quantify the power loss is tough though. On stock turbo STis its a pretty small single digit hp type deal. on a 400whp car I bet its 15-20hp. Ive never had the ability to do a direct comparison but thats my gut.

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Old 01-27-2012, 01:59 PM   #6153
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Jared, I have a MadDad for sale...
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:06 PM   #6154
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I noticed (no data to back it up) but with my 3" cutout open it seems to come into power quicker, but i dont think it really makes more power overall. Just seems to spool slightly faster.

And as far as the hole in your DP, i can fix that for you ya know
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:35 PM   #6155
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I will have what I believe is a Cobb catted downpipe for sale shortly. Probably next wednesday. Anyone have a stock downpipe for sale? New looking would be nice or at least clean
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:58 PM   #6156
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Cost is the main reason to go catless, and longevity. We see a lot of older aftermarket catted downpipes with failed cats or pieces rattling inside.

As power levels go up, the exhaust becomes a restriction. Heck with a gt35r even a 3" straight pipe is a restriction! To quantify the power loss is tough though. On stock turbo STis its a pretty small single digit hp type deal. on a 400whp car I bet its 15-20hp. Ive never had the ability to do a direct comparison but thats my gut.

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Hmmmm, feel like doing a comparison? I say let's dyno my car with and without. Provided I can get a down pipe at a reasonable cost from someone.
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I will have what I believe is a Cobb catted downpipe for sale shortly. Probably next wednesday. Anyone have a stock downpipe for sale? New looking would be nice or at least clean
I've still got my factory down pipe...let's talk
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:16 PM   #6157
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$350. if you can trade with max i'm sure you'll get a much better deal there.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:23 PM   #6158
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Max and I are gonna do a trade deal.



Matt...let's compare catted to catless
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:01 AM   #6159
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I used to have a catted DP and after a while it started rattling, Just became annoying...
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:07 AM   #6160
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Just a question here. I was wondering if you'd still be able to get a sticker with a catless exhaust?
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:52 AM   #6161
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u can but just need to find the right person to inspect ur car
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:23 AM   #6162
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Just a question here. I was wondering if you'd still be able to get a sticker with a catless exhaust?
yes you can, by knowing someone or just paid more to see who wants to do it.
i had a car with white turns, 9007 HID with no hi-beam, 20% tint all round, apexi exhaust (do have a hi flow cat)
wtever it is, if they do not check, they don't check. As long as no engine code, sticker here you go!
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:33 PM   #6163
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Just a question here. I was wondering if you'd still be able to get a sticker with a catless exhaust?
As long as you dont have a check engine light you might be ok. Some places dont bother looking to see if there is a cat, but some do.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:36 PM   #6164
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Dunn-Gaherin's?
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:15 PM   #6165
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:21 PM   #6166
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I'm in for Dunn-Gaherins. I'll make a reservation if we get a final count.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:44 PM   #6167
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Wednesday 2/1/12 7:30
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i was going to suggest dunn gaherins this week. its close enough to work that ill stop by and say hi on my lunch (dinner) break. and if youre still there when i go by at 10 past 10...ill stop by then too.


































on a totally separate note, im still kicking around the idea of a monthly sunday brunch meet come summer. im thinking april 8th for the start. anyone been to fire and ice for brunch? the thought of cross posting this on several forums and making it a large monthly gathering on a sunday morning in the streets of boston sounds awesome. fire and ice is getting tossed around in my head because its a rather large place that could handle a lot of people. the food is good...and all you can eat is 15 bucks.

that said, im also thinking of making it a eat if you want kind of deal. making a reservation for an unknown amount of people is a real gamble. thus the appeal of a large place like fire and ice. thoughts? suggestion? comments?

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Old 01-31-2012, 09:19 PM   #6168
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i was going to suggest dunn gaherins this week. its close enough to work that ill stop by and say hi on my lunch (dinner) break. and if youre still there when i go by at 10 past 10...ill stop by then too.

on a totally separate note, im still kicking around the idea of a monthly sunday brunch meet come summer. im thinking april 8th for the start. anyone been to fire and ice for brunch? the thought of cross posting this on several forums and making it a large monthly gathering on a sunday morning in the streets of boston sounds awesome. fire and ice is getting tossed around in my head because its a rather large place that could handle a lot of people. the food is good...and all you can eat is 15 bucks.

that said, im also thinking of making it a eat if you want kind of deal. making a reservation for an unknown amount of people is a real gamble. thus the appeal of a large place like fire and ice. thoughts? suggestion? comments?
I think that's a great idea. Not sure if fire and ice does breakfast, but brunch would be awesome. Sundays would be good too since most ppl aren't super busy that day. I think on general an all you can eat style restaurant would be optimum.
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:04 PM   #6169
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I've gone to Sunday brunch at fire n ice in Providence for the past few years on my birthday. (most recently this past weekend!) I highly recommend doing it. iirc, 16.95 all you can eat, doors open at 10am.
No need for reservations, lots of empty tables, just show up.
At that time of day, on a Sunday, you have your pick of spots in the parking garage, so it could definitely work. I would def go, considering I can't do anything during the week. (Hence my absence from meats for the past 2 years.)
In short: do eeit!
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:18 PM   #6170
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Im thinking the fire and ice in Boston.
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:38 PM   #6171
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I've been to both, and personally, I think the Prov one is much better. It is much more spacious with high ceilings, and better lighting, with large windows. Prov also has better/easier/cheaper ($2.00 for 0-5 hours) parking.
Granted, it's a ride down 95 to get there, but who wouldn't want to take a nice little Sunday morning cruise. With all the shopping options on the return trip, the Ladies could acquiesce to the trip as well.
K, I've said my peace, but things I hope you consider.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:23 PM   #6172
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Tavern on the Square does an awesome all you can eat brunch as well.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:05 AM   #6173
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I've been to both, and personally, I think the Prov one is much better. It is much more spacious with high ceilings, and better lighting, with large windows. Prov also has better/easier/cheaper ($2.00 for 0-5 hours) parking.
Granted, it's a ride down 95 to get there, but who wouldn't want to take a nice little Sunday morning cruise. With all the shopping options on the return trip, the Ladies could acquiesce to the trip as well.
K, I've said my peace, but things I hope you consider.
Providence was a thought of mine as well, however after doing some more thinking...I reconsidered. There were several reasons 1 being mall security and the hoops that would need to be jumped through to get them to leave us alone. Another is the paying for parking. While it is inexpensive, it does require those who don't want to eat...to pay.

I've got this vision in my head of a highly impromptu come and go as you please meet on the empty streets of the city on an early Sunday morning. The thought of tons of highly modified cars lining the streets of the city is one of amazing photo ops. Those who would like to go enjoy Sunday brunch can go in as they please, eat, then come out and look at the cars. No reservations for a stupid amount of people, no splitting the check 30ways so everyone can pay with a card. Fire and ice is highly interactive because of the grille in the center of the restraunt.



Not knocking you for the suggestion. As a matter of fact I'm happy to hear the ideas....i agree, if it were a better situation with mall security and paying... It would be an ideal location
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This was brought up last time I mentioned this too. What's the parking situation like?
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:11 AM   #6174
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Does anyone know if Boston beer works does brunch....or is it only in their Salem and hingham locations? Having this around Fenway would be so cool.
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Your more "thinking and reconsidering", has been considered, and duly noted. Carry on sir.
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