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Old 06-27-2002, 08:40 PM   #1
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Im looking for some new suspension for my 2002 wrx sedan. i would like to use it for offroad\rally. i want to buy the whole nine yards, shocks, springs, dampners, sway bars, all of the neccassry parts for an excellent set up. im a newbie that dosent know a lot about this stuff and i have lots of money to burn. I want the best.
Also, what are really good offroad rally tires?
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Old 06-27-2002, 09:14 PM   #2
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Do a search for DMS and look at their giant series of struts. IF you have a lot of money you can just have a custom system made by Ground Control or DMS...

Also Might i suggest taking some rally schools?

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Old 06-27-2002, 11:21 PM   #3
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im a newbie that dosent know a lot about this stuff and i have lots of money to burn.
I suggest you completely forget about spending megabucks on your suspension until you figure out (1) how to drive the car and (2) what you want to do with the car.

(1) What kind of driving experience do you have? How many driving schools have you attended? (And, no, I'm not asking about the driver's ed course you took to get your license). Have you been to a rally school of any sort? Do you have any idea how to drive the car in it's current state?

(2) What kind of offroad/rally do you want to use it for? Actual competition or just going out on some dirt roads for sh-ts and giggles? If you want to do competitive events, are you looking at rally-cross events or club rally? Who is the sanctioning body? What modifications are allowed by the sanctioning body? How much is "lots of money to burn"? If you truly want "the best" then we're talking about spending around $20-25,000 for the strut assemblies.

Provide answers to all that stuff and then we might be able to give you an idea of where to go.

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Old 06-28-2002, 12:33 AM   #4
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patrick-
I have little driving experience but im not horrible and im planning on taking some driving schools, im undecided on which ones yet though. right now im going to be using it for "sh-ts and giggles" and messen around until i can get good, but i plan in the futrure on having a competition car made but i dont know what class yet.

So right now i dont care if it fits in any rally rules yet and i just want a really good set up to learn on and mess around. as for money, it isn't a deciding factor right now. thanks for your and RawCode's help.
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Old 06-28-2002, 01:24 AM   #5
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Might I suggest a roll cage.
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Old 06-28-2002, 01:38 AM   #6
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Ohlins (For the good stuff 12000 (not a typo yes 12 grand), Proflex (5 Grand), Bilstein, DMS (1500-2800 depending on which model), Tein, Zeal, and many others. personally I would only choose the first three but that is just me. Off road tires call www.avsport.com you can buy pirelli rally tires and speedline 2118 rims get a 15x7 or 15x6 and you will also need the 4-pot front calipers search the board there is plenty of places to get them prices range from 550-750 depending, get some pagid pads www.rallyperformance.com, mud flaps www.p-sport.com or www.rallylights.com, sump guard (you can get this from AV sport as well) or from primitive (do a search), rear diff protector you can also get from av sport or subaru dealer, You chould really get a helmet, and probably a roll cage (depending on location you can go to cascade motorsports, www.vtsportscar.com, or www.avsport.com and Vermont Sportscar can also get you a prodrive cage for about 2500 which is another option). There I have just spent close to 40k for you and spared you about three hours in searches have fun.
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Old 06-28-2002, 01:42 AM   #7
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Roll cage

I think the suggestion for a rally school should be at the top of your mod list. Mod the "soft" parts first. Then go for the hard parts with an understanding of what you are really doing.

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Old 06-28-2002, 01:59 AM   #8
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Thank you tifosi77, thats what i was looking for.

I was already on
the trail of a roll cage, i think im going to have somebody build me one (laugh alll you want at the roll cage but i want one even if i dont NEED one ) as for the brakes im thinking on some, maybe when i make plans for a cobb tuning ill get their brakes. are their brakes any for rally or are they more street oriented, i havent shopped for brakes yet so let me now.

I know I will end up buying lots of things in the end that i dont need but i dont care, i have lots of money for this project and im prepared for some salesman to make me spend it all on the best of the best. I hope that when i gain some experiance and skill i will know what i need. thanks for your help
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Old 06-28-2002, 02:34 AM   #9
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Cobb brakes are not for rally but are oriented to street or road course driving. For any gravel application I would suggest AP, ALcon, or the plain old Subaru 4-Pots which have been on the car that has won the last four SCCA Pro Rallys and are the least expensive. I do not know who you are speaking with to build your cage but if you are going to the expense to have one welded in (do not use a bolt in cage, I cannot repeat this enough) you will want it to be built to specs whether or not you are sure of the intended long term use of your car. Send me an email if you need any other information tifosi77@hotmail.com
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Old 06-28-2002, 02:39 AM   #10
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I forgot to mention this to you but since you have the mney to blow and from your posts I don't think that you will be doing much of the install work on your own I would tell you to send your car to have it completely converted by one of the race shops I have mentioned, you could get everything done in one shot and be off having fun or buy a pre-fabbed car from them. Just some food for thought and if you are thinking about a rally school I would tell you to skip the schools in the US and go to the UK (namely the forrest experience run by the higgins family or Bill Gwynne's rally school).
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Old 06-28-2002, 09:19 PM   #11
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If you want a total setup for rally, try www.rallispec.com or www.avsport.com they both do rally car prep...

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Old 06-28-2002, 10:00 PM   #12
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Roll cage and brakes and suspension and rally school - did you win the lottery?

You could try www.spdusa.com. Mike has been involved with Subarus and rallying for years, has a ton of information and will be very helpful.

Best of luck
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Old 06-28-2002, 10:51 PM   #13
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thanks guys, i am thinking seriously of going with avsport. thanks for your help.

HoRo1- no unfortunately i havent won the lottery but i have made several profitable buisnesses over the years and a recent event has boosted my income and im really happy to be able to do something that i've wanted to do for a long time
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Old 06-29-2002, 03:13 AM   #14
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Drake,

AVsport is really good I would reccomend them highly, good luck with your car.
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Old 07-02-2002, 09:34 PM   #15
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The DMS Giants are great rally suspension, but pricey at around $2400

The DMS Gold may be perfect as a great road/rallyX suspension.
$1650 for the set delivered from places like Primitive Racing (www.get-primitive.com) or Dave Clark Motorsports.

The skidplates are also available from Primitive.

Go to driving schools too as suggested above...

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Old 07-03-2002, 02:27 AM   #16
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tifosi77,

I thought Bill Gwynne's Rally school was at an airport north of London. I did this a few years ago. Lot of fun but not forest driving by any means, it took me around 52 seconds to get around the track on the side of the airport marked by tires. After a few sessions I was close or faster than the instructor. Mostly using old rear wheel drive escorts with street tires on them, but I had a chance to take out a Rally prepared front wheel drive Astra on the last session (that was fun) and cleaned up the instructor.

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