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Old 10-18-2010, 12:23 PM   #1
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Default Major squealing coming from timing belt area

95 brighton wagon with 2.2

When it's not squealing it sounds like a dry bearing running.

Goes with engine RPM'S.

Does the water pump have a weep hole?

Car drives but has a jerk to it like a dead miss every now and then.

Think I have a bearing seizing up ?

I'm new with Roo's
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:31 PM   #2
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might be a timing belt idler

i believe the water pump does have a weep hole

dunno about the drivability issue
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:32 PM   #3
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Has the timing belt been serviced? If not I'd say it is time... might as well do the water pump while you are in there.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:57 PM   #4
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My money says the water pump has seized. Especially if the car doesn't have heat right now.

Don't run the motor until you pull the covers off and look. This can easily end up with a broken timing belt and bent valves......been there, done that!


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Old 10-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #5
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Has the timing belt been serviced? If not I'd say it is time... might as well do the water pump while you are in there.
Don't know if it's been serviced, 0nly had the car for a year, put about 10,000 miles on it.

It has 185,000 on it now.

Looks like the timing belt says Made in the UK on it.

I just took the end cover's off.

Belt is cracked pretty good but it's dry, no oil or anti freeze.

Can anybody reccommend a timing belt kit for this.

Yes, I will replace it all while I'm there.

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Old 10-18-2010, 02:00 PM   #6
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Ebay is your best and cheapest bet. There are company's on there who have full kits with water pumps for around $125

...search 2.2 subaru timing kit in ebay motors
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Old 10-18-2010, 04:02 PM   #7
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Ebay is your best and cheapest bet. There are company's on there who have full kits with water pumps for around $125

...search 2.2 subaru timing kit in ebay motors
WOW ebay is the cheapest.

Thank You very much, Slider
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:02 PM   #8
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Dont go cheap on a timing belt. Use a brand like gates, or OEM. Your 2.2 is non-interference so if the belt breaks you wont hurt anything internally. I am not saying you can wait, if the belt is cracked replace it now. Check all of your idlers, water pump and tensioner. Replace anything that is not working to spec. A haynes manual is nice to have when doing this.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:34 PM   #9
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Alot of times you can find or figure out who and where the company is off the ebay listing info and get a phone number. I did this for my Legacy SS build......I got a kit with extra stuff or with out stuff. Like the belt, I ordered a kit with H2O pump and Oil pump but without a belt. Then got a good warranted belt at Auto-zone.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:32 PM   #10
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FYI the t-belts at NAPA are manufactured by Gates, and they are a lot cheaper.
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:31 PM   #11
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EJ22s or those year are non-interference. If it breaks or the idler breaks, it will leave you stranded, but not bend valves.

If it's cracked and looks old, I'd change it and do it yourself since you can't mess it up.
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:40 PM   #12
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It could also be your alternator going. Take the belts off to help isolate which piece is causing the noise.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:17 AM   #13
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If you have the $ and plan on keeping the car for a few tens of thousands of miles, change EVERY belt and EVERY pulley and the tensionner ASAP. Hurts your wallet, but all the squeaks disappear and you'll be safe for a while (short of water pump and alternator)
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:46 AM   #14
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:59 PM   #15
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I am changing my timing belt tonight and everything under it. I just dropped $700 in OEM parts. Thats the timing belt, water pump, all idlers and tensioner, thermostat and gaskets. My car is paid off so Id rather pay that than a $500 monthly payment for a new car. Id go oem with the timing belt and water pump. Your not paying that much more and do you want a part that might work or is garuanteed to work with your car? The squeal is probably a bad bearing either in the water pump or an idler pulley. Id get it fixed asap. Jsut as a reference this is what my local dealer quoted me for.

Timing belt—107.94

Tensioner—179.94

A/C belt---23.93

Alternator belt—22.43

Water pump—119.94

Water pump gasket—5.95

Thermostat—22.37

Thermostat gasket—5.95

Cam seals—12.03ea (2 req.)
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:05 PM   #16
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I found out what the noise was.

The Cog Idler Pulley was TOASTED Blue, with hardly any bearings left.

Timing belt was missing about 12 teeth and severly cracked.

Had to drill out tensioner pulley bolt hole to 7/16 and retap it

Somebody replaced the belt before and really screwed up the threads.

Replaced everything under the covers except tensioner, for $187 and change off of ebay.

Fairly simple job and now I have heat at idle.

Thanks everybody, Slider
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Old 10-27-2010, 11:53 PM   #17
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You kept a tensioner with unknown age and mileage on a car with 185k? Braver man than I.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:30 AM   #18
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Not sure if brave is the right word.

Cheap maybe, the tensioner tested good so I went with it.
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They still tend to fail, and when they do, buh-bye to the engine. Buy yourself peace of mind and change it.....
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