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Old 10-21-2010, 03:08 AM   #1
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i got a letter in the mail today from the sec. of state saying that in 5 days (10-26) my license will be suspended for 1 year. over the summer i got 2 speeding tickets within 3 weeks. make a long story short i didnt show up to traffic school or court for each ticket (i know, stupid on my part, no excuses). now this is where i start to think...under 21 all you need is 2 convicted moving violations and your license is suspended automatically. if your over 21 its 3 and its suspended....both times i was clocked speeding was when i was under 21, and the second one happened 6 days before i turned 21. shouldnt i be allowed one more violation? not sure how that would work. and i wasnt convicted officially until august and september.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:55 AM   #2
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I belive its from the date of the violation not when your court date / actual conviction is.. good luck either way..
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:07 AM   #3
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Yes it is date of conviction.. that is like getting a underage drinking ticket 2days before you turn 21. They still see it as underage on that date. But damn a whiole year I had two convictions (one speeding one rolling stop light on a right turn) and mine was only 3 months
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:04 AM   #4
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My experience from work when we were collecting data for Juvenile Justice was that for adjudications (kids are adjudicated, adults are sentenced), it's up to the judge to decide if your time starts when you were put in the Youth Center, or from the date of the ruling. So if you were picked up 3 months before your trial ends and you behave yourself in juvie, that time served is included in your adjudication. But if you were an asshat and you get say, 3 months as your punishment, it starts when the ruling is made. Time served doesn't matter.

I'm sure there's a similar judges discretion for traffic matters.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:30 AM   #5
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"Last one happened 6 days before I turned 21."

That is your answer right there. You messed up, didn't take care of either one, and now your stuck with a suspended license. It sucks, but I don't see how its unexpected.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:12 AM   #6
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"Last one happened 6 days before I turned 21."

That is your answer right there. You messed up, didn't take care of either one, and now your stuck with a suspended license. It sucks, but I don't see how its unexpected.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:19 AM   #7
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Attorney time.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:15 PM   #8
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wtf. break the law, get caught, don't complete your service...

you thought this was gonna just disappear? inexcuseable. license suspended.

suck it up.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:20 PM   #9
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:39 PM   #10
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You can try this, but I don't know how well it will go over if you never followed up on the tickets as you should have.

Step 1) File a Motion to Vacate on one of the tickets ($X depending on county)
Step 2) Go to court
Step 3) Plead guilty and request court supervision
Step 4) If they say yes, you'll probably pay a slightly increased fine ($30?) and maybe court fees depending on the county ($130 or so I think)
Step 5) When that goes through, you get your license back

When I did mine, the judge asked the prosecutor if they were okay with that and they said yes.

So it's like $100-$250 or so, but you can get your license back.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:46 PM   #11
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PM hoffmanestates, either he is is a practicing attorney or someone in his family is, cant remember which.


he got me off the hook for a DUI, i blew a .12 but the officers ****ed up so i walked away scott free.
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:48 PM   #12
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PM hoffmanestates, either he is is a practicing attorney or someone in his family is, cant remember which.


he got me off the hook for a DUI, i blew a .12 but the officers ****ed up so i walked away scott free.
+1 hoffmanestates will help you out for sure
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:51 PM   #13
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+2 for hoff, he's gotten a few of us out of these types of situations!
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:54 PM   #14
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i got a letter in the mail today from the sec. of state saying that in 5 days (10-26) my license will be suspended for 1 year. over the summer i got 2 speeding tickets within 3 weeks. make a long story short i didnt show up to traffic school or court for each ticket (i know, stupid on my part, no excuses). now this is where i start to think...under 21 all you need is 2 convicted moving violations and your license is suspended automatically. if your over 21 its 3 and its suspended....both times i was clocked speeding was when i was under 21, and the second one happened 6 days before i turned 21. shouldnt i be allowed one more violation? not sure how that would work. and i wasnt convicted officially until august and september.
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1:The dates matter only on the violation date, not conviction date. So your 2 convictions of 2 moving violations before you were 21 is what has you suspended.
2:Go to what ever courthouse your tickets are through and file a motion to vacate the one or both of the tickets(doing one should get you out of the 2 conviction problem). What this will do is give you a court date to basically bring the ticket(s) back into court and allow you to get on court supervision granted you are able to get supervision. You are generally allow no more than 3 supervisions a year by state law. The motion to vacate will probably run you around $40.
3:Be prepared to face the fact you may have a warrant out for your arrest if you failed to go to court, this is not uncommon.
4:Hire a lawyer for these motion to vacates, cost will probably be $150 a ticket, without a lawyer, you have a slim chance at this being sucessful.
5:Be prepared to spend $300-$500 on the supervision and fines with traffic school included.
6:If they vacate the conviction and place you on supervision, ask for all the paperwork to take to the secretary of the state, this will save you much time and greif. Basically, instead of you waiting for them to send your paperwork to springfield and proccess it(which can take up to 8 weeks), you take your copy of the paperwork and you can take it directly down to chicago(they have an office down there) and they will process it that day, an walla, you will have your license cleared up in a few days.

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Old 10-21-2010, 12:57 PM   #15
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You can try this, but I don't know how well it will go over if you never followed up on the tickets as you should have.

Step 1) File a Motion to Vacate on one of the tickets ($X depending on county)
Step 2) Go to court
Step 3) Plead guilty and request court supervision
Step 4) If they say yes, you'll probably pay a slightly increased fine ($30?) and maybe court fees depending on the county ($130 or so I think)
Step 5) When that goes through, you get your license back

When I did mine, the judge asked the prosecutor if they were okay with that and they said yes.

So it's like $100-$250 or so, but you can get your license back.
Didn't see this, but basically same thing I said.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:02 PM   #16
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Didn't see this, but basically same thing I said.
Only thing really different is that my situation didn't seem like a lawyer would be of any use - it was really simple. With his potential extra problems using a lawyer for this process might well be worth it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:08 PM   #17
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PM DrBelmore, he's a practicing attorney.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:50 PM   #18
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:51 PM   #19
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wtf. break the law, get caught, don't complete your service...you thought this was gonna just disappear? inexcuseable. license suspended. suck it up.
like i said, no excuses why i didnt go, calm down buddy


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PM hoffmanestates, either he is is a practicing attorney or someone in his family is, cant remember which. he got me off the hook for a DUI, i blew a .12 but the officers ****ed up so i walked away scott free.
my uncle is an attorney, he already trying to figure something out.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:49 PM   #20
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A Lil OT: but I just went to traffic court for the first time. 87 in a 55 :: got $75 fine + Court fees, court was super busy and judge said nothing about supervision or anything. I didn't want to ask her, so I wouldn't remind her lol anyone know how I can find out if I have it or not? Sorry for the threadjack. And if it matters 1st violation ever and I'm over 21 lol
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:41 PM   #21
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You can try this, but I don't know how well it will go over if you never followed up on the tickets as you should have.

Step 1) File a Motion to Vacate on one of the tickets ($X depending on county)
Step 2) Go to court
Step 3) Plead guilty and request court supervision
Step 4) If they say yes, you'll probably pay a slightly increased fine ($30?) and maybe court fees depending on the county ($130 or so I think)
Step 5) When that goes through, you get your license back

When I did mine, the judge asked the prosecutor if they were okay with that and they said yes.

So it's like $100-$250 or so, but you can get your license back.

I was suspended back in 2005 for 2 months because of this. Following the above steps took care of the suspension. Just make sure you complete whatever sentence they give you.

In Cook county, a good lawyer can get this taken care of in 15 minutes without having to wait for a court date. Will cost you 1-1.5K in coin though. Better than not being able to drive.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:02 PM   #22
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going to court tmrw with my uncle, told me ill spend at least 500 :-/
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:35 PM   #23
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if you need an awesome cook county lawyer i can give you his number....hes a kooky 75 year old thats been doing this since he was 21...
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:04 AM   #24
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i had a similar situation happen to me just about a month ago. i got 2 tickets within a year and got my license suspended. all you need to do is request a court date ( i paid $40) and then plead guilty to the ticket but request supervision. you get 2 supervisions per year. you will need to pay $185 per supervision but you wont need to take any additional classes to get your license back and you wont need to pay any license reinstatement fee either.
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PM DrBelmore, he's a practicing attorney.
+1 for DrBelmore he even gave me a rubdown after getting me off some speeding tickets,
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