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Old 12-27-2011, 04:00 PM   #1101
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The numbers I posted were based on the combo of the numbers from my AVC-R and the Hydra.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:09 PM   #1102
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Did you have a specific date you want the car back up and finished by Tom?
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:28 PM   #1103
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A few weeks ago I was going to try for new years. Now I am thinking mid January because I am making a few small changes. It's not like I can drive it much in the winter any way. Either way I won't be getting tuned until April.
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:42 AM   #1104
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tom,
great build thread. this shows great ability to overcome adversity and to succeed. I wish nothing but the best for you. I work at a dealer, if you need anything at all please let me know. This car is front cover worthy on any magazine worth its name.

BTW it took me 2 weeks to read through all of this. Better than any Tom Clancy book for sure!
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:44 PM   #1105
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So she will be ready for next summer then for sure, my completion is for May now with everything that's changed on the build.

Perhaps a friendly drag race is in order? Lol.

Although il be at 500whp I'm sure you will be way over that
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:08 PM   #1106
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Tom, gotta give you props for working so hard on this. I can tell that Abbey is way more important to you so even bigger props for that.

Can't wait to see the start up video!
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:11 PM   #1107
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Great work. HOpe you have it up sooner than later

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Old 12-28-2011, 11:08 PM   #1108
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Good luck Tom ! I hope 2012 will be the year for you
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:43 PM   #1109
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate it!
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:45 PM   #1110
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We all know you deserve it mate
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:07 PM   #1111
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Today was the most productive day yet. I managed to complete a ton of stuff (with Abby's help of course).

Abby likes to hold the smashed piston from the first motor while I work. I cant believe how old she looks in this pict! BTW, if you're wondering, that doll just got home from a date with Chris Brown.


I finally got my EGT probe installed in my JDM manifold. I had intended to do this sometime this winter but I never knew that I would be replacing the whole damn motor at the same time. This involved removing the drivers side heat shield which is welded on, drilling a hole in both the shield and the pipe and putting it all back together. I think it turned out pretty good:


My TGV gaskets arrived in the mail today so I bolted the intake manifold back on. It took me almost an hour to get all the metal fragments out of it from when the old motor blew. It looked like somebody put a hand full of scrap metal in it!


As I mentioned a few posts back, I bumped up the EWG springs up two steps. I am now running a 21.5PSI spring which I suspect will net me 18PSI.

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Old 12-29-2011, 08:08 PM   #1112
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Many people have asked about my Moore Performance Turbo kit. Here's the up-pipe extender known as "the adapter" that allows any stock location twin scroll JDM header to be used with a variety of rotated turbos. Twin TiAL wastegates and ceramic coating for the win!


Like all my EWG setups, I always run a pair of SuperTrap exhaust silencers. These things make an amazing difference when you are married, have a kid, live in a quiet neighborhood and otherwise need to pretend you are an adult from time to time.


Those who know me know how I covet my full set of $nap-on Torque wrenches. They are worth every penny!


Here's another shot just for good measure


Here's the oil cooler thermostat sandwich adapter that caused all the drama a few pages ago.


Since I dont run the factory oil heat exchanger I put this hose here. I know I could block off all those barbs but I have always used a hose between them.


A block heater makes things really nice if for those super cold start-ups.

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Old 12-29-2011, 08:40 PM   #1113
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In addition to everything else that's been going on with my car I have been fighting a silent war with boost control for nearly three years. Yes, I know reinventing the wheel is not exactly required to keep boost pressure under wraps these days but for whatever reason this has been a total thorn in my side. The story starts back in the spring of 2008 when I was running a Blouch Dom 3 turbo on my stock motor. I was on my way home from getting tuned at Agile Automotive in Baltimore MD (a really great shop BTW) and at first everything seemed great with the tune. Unfortunately, by the time I hit the mountains in south central PA I started having boost control issues at WOT. In 1st-3rd gear everything worked just fine but boost was wobbly 4th gear and a total mess in 5th and 6th.

At the time, I was running the factory ECU with a COBB AccessPORT and a GM boost control solenoid. Hill (the tuner/owner at Agile) told me during that day’s tune that I should be looking for an aftermarket boost management solution because the car was somewhat difficult to tune using my setup. To fix the situation I decided to purchase an Apexi AVC-R since I had prior experience with one on a friend's car. This allowed me to tune the boost pretty well but there were issues. Since the AVC-R has no temp compensation, the car would make significantly different amounts of boost depending on the weather. As time when on this became super annoying because I was constantly making boost corrections every time I drove the car.

The following year (2009) I decided to try meth injection out so I moved to a Hydra ECU and installed a Hydramist meth kit. I also decided to move to the Hydra's internal boost control solution because of the frustrations with the AVC-R. The number one thing that swayed me to make this decision was the Hydra's ability to trim the solenoid duty cycle based on ambient temp which I thought would make all the difference in the world. Unfortunately, the Hydra 2.6's boost control ability is even WORSE than the factory ECU. The Hydra has tons more tuning capability than the factory ECU but not even Phil could get my boost situation ironed out. At Phil’s suggestion I re-installed my AVC-R, tuned the boost myself and ran the car like that for the rest of 2009 and some of 2010. Unfortunately, I would still find myself messing with the boost settings just about every time I drive the car due to the rather significant temp swings in the Northeast US (the temp can vary 30F in a day here).

In mid 2010 I tried the hybrid boost control method out to see if that would at least cap my boost at an acceptable level on cold days. While it technically worked, my experience running the hybrid setup with a Hallman pro RX and the AVC-R was pretty frustrating. The MBC would do its job just fine and prevent max boost form exceeding my desired levels BUT no matter what I did I could not prevent the AVC-R from slowing down the boost response.

After some more messing around I decided to cut the AVC-R out of the mix again and run a pure manual setup. The issue with running a manual boost controller was my meth kit. If a meth failure occurs the Hydra must have some automatic method of reducing boost. My solution was to buy a special MAC valve that's capable of being energized for long period. I used the valve to change between directing full boost pressure to the EWGs (spring pressure only) and directing pressure through my Hallman RX MBC. I also installed the remote control knob so that I could make boost adjustments form inside the car. A bit of brief testing showed that the setup had potential but it just left to much on the table.

At the strong suggestion of Phil and several others I decided to just move to an eBoost2 and ditch the custom and overly complicated boost setup that I had been running. I was surprised how easy the eBoost2 was to setup especially after hearing so many people complain. I obviously haven't used it yet but I am confident that it will be a significant improvement over what I have been running.


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Old 12-29-2011, 09:04 PM   #1114
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I love those silencers, great idea. I applaud your effort and commitment. Best of luck.

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Old 12-29-2011, 09:54 PM   #1115
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:57 PM   #1116
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I decided to mock the turbo kit up so that I could re-route a few lines and hoses. I guess the benefit of getting to do this twice is that I get a chance to leverage my hindsight. There are a number of little things that I wanted to redo and now I have an opportunity to get it all perfect.

Here are a few more Moore Performance rotated kit pictures. This thing is like a work of art!








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Old 12-29-2011, 11:59 PM   #1117
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So you switched headers as well? Sorry I didn't read the whole thread--just bits and pieces.
I'm glad it's all coming together.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:05 AM   #1118
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Looks great as always Tom. You show us a picture of your Eb2 but make no mention of it. So whats the plan with that puppy?
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:42 AM   #1119
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I love those silencers, great idea. I applaud your effort and commitment. Best of luck.

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Ah, that is what those are. Do they hinder the flow of the ewg? That seems to be a great solution to the ridiculous noise ewg's make.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:54 AM   #1120
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So you switched headers as well? Sorry I didn't read the whole thread--just bits and pieces.
I'm glad it's all coming together.
Thats what i was thinking, so i did re-read the thread, and at some point Tom went with an adapter from Moore Performance that bolts onto a factory jdm twinscroll exhaust manifold.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:30 PM   #1121
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Don't forget it also depends on where your pulling each reading from. Assuming your EWG is pulling pressure from a fitting on the turbo compressor and your MAP/Gauges are likely in the intake manifold/throttle, a 1-2psi pressure drop could easily happen with any leaks or inefficient IC/piping, BOV's, and etc...
Maybe I'm not thinking this through completely, but couldn't the EWG boost source be pulled from the manifold, so the EWG always matches the MAP/Gauges?
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:43 PM   #1122
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Ah, that is what those are. Do they hinder the flow of the ewg? That seems to be a great solution to the ridiculous noise ewg's make.
I just had a Supertrapp welded onto my P&L EWG dump tube, too. Looking forward to having the benefits of dump-to-atmosphere but a lot less of the sound. Rerouting can cause boost fluctuations including creep.

^^^ removing the discs or adding more let's you fine tune the flow and sound of the EWG. Add more discs to add more flow and make it louder; take away discs to restrict flow and quiet it down, too.

dex, it looks like you have all 12 discs installed in each supertrapp... pull some discs out, make it even more quiet!
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:48 PM   #1123
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6 discs installed;

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Old 12-30-2011, 03:57 PM   #1124
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In addition to everything else that's been going on with my car I have been fighting a silent war with boost control for nearly three years. Yes, I know reinventing the wheel is not exactly required to keep boost pressure under wraps these days but for whatever reason this has been a total thorn in my side. The story starts back in the spring of 2008 when I was running a Blouch Dom 3 turbo on my stock motor. I was on my way home from getting tuned at Agile Automotive in Baltimore MD (a really great shop BTW) and at first everything seemed great with the tune. Unfortunately, by the time I hit the mountains in south central PA I started having boost control issues at WOT. In 1st-3rd gear everything worked just fine but boost was wobbly 4th gear and a total mess in 5th and 6th.

At the time, I was running the factory ECU with a COBB AccessPORT and a GM boost control solenoid. Hill (the tuner/owner at Agile) told me during that day’s tune that I should be looking for an aftermarket boost management solution because the car was somewhat difficult to tune using my setup. To fix the situation I decided to purchase an Apexi AVC-R since I had prior experience with one on a friend's car. This allowed me to tune the boost pretty well but there were issues. Since the AVC-R has no temp compensation, the car would make significantly different amounts of boost depending on the weather. As time when on this became super annoying because I was constantly making boost corrections every time I drove the car.

The following year (2009) I decided to try meth injection out so I moved to a Hydra ECU and installed a Hydramist meth kit. I also decided to move to the Hydra's internal boost control solution because of the frustrations with the AVC-R. The number one thing that swayed me to make this decision was the Hydra's ability to trim the solenoid duty cycle based on ambient temp which I thought would make all the difference in the world. Unfortunately, the Hydra 2.6's boost control ability is even WORSE than the factory ECU. The Hydra has tons more tuning capability than the factory ECU but not even Phil could get my boost situation ironed out. At Phil’s suggestion I re-installed my AVC-R, tuned the boost myself and ran the car like that for the rest of 2009 and some of 2010. Unfortunately, I would still find myself messing with the boost settings just about every time I drive the car due to the rather significant temp swings in the Northeast US (the temp can vary 30F in a day here).

In mid 2010 I tried the hybrid boost control method out to see if that would at least cap my boost at an acceptable level on cold days. While it technically worked, my experience running the hybrid setup with a Hallman pro RX and the AVC-R was pretty frustrating. The MBC would do its job just fine and prevent max boost form exceeding my desired levels BUT no matter what I did I could not prevent the AVC-R from slowing down the boost response.

After some more messing around I decided to cut the AVC-R out of the mix again and run a pure manual setup. The issue with running a manual boost controller was my meth kit. If a meth failure occurs the Hydra must have some automatic method of reducing boost. My solution was to buy a special MAC valve that's capable of being energized for long period. I used the valve to change between directing full boost pressure to the EWGs (spring pressure only) and directing pressure through my Hallman RX MBC. I also installed the remote control knob so that I could make boost adjustments form inside the car. A bit of brief testing showed that the setup had potential but it just left to much on the table.


lol tell me about hydra, that **** was the worst ecu ever made,

i cant believe people still using it,
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You show us a picture of your Eb2 but make no mention of it.
LOL, the end of my post got cut off somehow. I will edit it.
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