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Old 10-04-2012, 06:48 PM   #2351
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^^^^^ Talk about a shot to the balls...
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #2352
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:16 PM   #2353
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Is that a Daily Engineering pump? It's clear from the machining that thing must be huge bucks, but the design seems like it could work for a street/track vehicle and keep a/c etc...since the lines would be a tad simplified. The fact that the pan is billet makes me not want to ask how much though.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:29 PM   #2354
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If this is the same block there was a thread on a while back I tbink it is right around $10k
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:34 PM   #2355
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If this is the same block there was a thread on a while back I tbink it is right around $10k
and apparently that might be worth it considering the discussion on the previous few pages...
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:59 PM   #2356
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10k with the dry sump? sounds like a deal haha
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:38 AM   #2357
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If this is the same block there was a thread on a while back I tbink it is right around $10k
this one? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...cylinder+heads
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:24 PM   #2358
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If you guys want to see some crazy billet CNC stuff, look up Extreme Tuners on Facebook. I would start a facebook account just to look at the porn they put on their page. CNC Billet cranks, blocks, turbos, Ti turbo wheels, etc.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:08 PM   #2359
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If you guys want to see some crazy billet CNC stuff, look up Extreme Tuners on Facebook. I would start a facebook account just to look at the porn they put on their page. CNC Billet cranks, blocks, turbos, Ti turbo wheels, etc.
I hate you
I just spent way to much time looking at that lol

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Old 10-05-2012, 03:34 PM   #2360
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Yeah, thats some cool stuff on there. $$$$$$$$$$$$!
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:03 PM   #2361
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So all you with cracked cylinder walls. Did you all have bubbles in the coolant?

I have had some issues with my long block (Cosworth built) Before the last tune it would not get hot. But always had bubbles in the system. The system has been blead over and over. I'm working on doing a coolant pressure test on the system.

But have been watching this thread. I did have a install failure on the wastegate lines that lead to the vac lines melting on a track day. Which over boosted the motor. I don't think its the head bolts / gasket/ Since Cosworth built the long block.

Any ideas?
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #2362
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Has anybody had an outfront block blow out or have they just developed cracks?
mxpop, JC Meynet had a catastrophic failure of his Outfront closed deck block on his time attack car. Although, I think he was pushing 750+ WHP on E85 in an event when it happened.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:52 PM   #2363
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So all you with cracked cylinder walls. Did you all have bubbles in the coolant?

I have had some issues with my long block (Cosworth built) Before the last tune it would not get hot. But always had bubbles in the system. The system has been blead over and over. I'm working on doing a coolant pressure test on the system.

But have been watching this thread. I did have a install failure on the wastegate lines that lead to the vac lines melting on a track day. Which over boosted the motor. I don't think its the head bolts / gasket/ Since Cosworth built the long block.

Any ideas?

Yes, I thought I had a bad head gasket or something at one point because I always had air in the system.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:54 PM   #2364
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mxpop, JC Meynet had a catastrophic failure of his Outfront closed deck block on his time attack car. Although, I think he was pushing 750+ WHP on E85 in an event when it happened.
I dont think we can count that one. In my opinion, after 600whp all bets are off and its just a matter of time.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:50 AM   #2365
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I agree with you I was going to go for 600whp all I need is bigger springs in my ewg's but I'm now considering going to a hta wheel that will spool faster and keep it 560whp or even go to a big 30r hta and go down to 530ish but have less lag
I hardly ever push my car to full 26 psi 560whp mark because its crazy I'm goin 40 over the speed limit before I know it
I could back it down a little with a smaller turbo and make it more fun in 1st and 2nt gear
Oh and fyi if you are running the cobb 3 port boost solenoid it makes a tick sound when it gets cold out
Mine is bolted to my rh fender well and I was convinced that I must have screwed up my valvetrain on the rh side of my engine because it ticks with throttle tip
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:18 AM   #2366
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Another thing to remember is at 550whp on a low reading mustang dyno you are easily making 650 at the crank
We are producing 4.3 hp per cu inch
That's f-1 territory I'm glad to have gotten 2000 miles so far out of my f-1 Subaru engine that was not designed for that lol
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:46 PM   #2367
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I dont think we can count that one. In my opinion, after 600whp all bets are off and its just a matter of time.
I was kind of making a joke but not really, you can detonate any motor with enough cylinder pressure. That Outfront CD block that JC blew apart was a 2.6l BC stroker motor. He won the Modified Tuber Shootout with that motor and if IIRC he scored the highest points total ever for the event. I think he had the second highest HP dyno run. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2207275

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:19 PM   #2368
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So all you with cracked cylinder walls. Did you all have bubbles in the coolant?

I have had some issues with my long block (Cosworth built) Before the last tune it would not get hot. But always had bubbles in the system. The system has been blead over and over. I'm working on doing a coolant pressure test on the system.

But have been watching this thread. I did have a install failure on the wastegate lines that lead to the vac lines melting on a track day. Which over boosted the motor. I don't think its the head bolts / gasket/ Since Cosworth built the long block.

Any ideas?
Pull the header and see if it's coming out of the exhaust port on cylinder 4, based on I think your running Cosworth heads that's where I would look.

I also assume the bubbles your seeing are small bubbles if your running on a bleed bottle. I'd also bet the engine leaks down cherry at the same time and there are no additional bubbles in the coolant bleed bottle when conducting that test.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #2369
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Hey Tom, talked to Phil a few times and i think i am gonna go with his block reinforcement procedure for my engine. Have you decided which way your gonna go yet?
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:31 AM   #2370
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Hey Tom, talked to Phil a few times and i think i am gonna go with his block reinforcement procedure for my engine. Have you decided which way your gonna go yet?

BOOOOM!
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:34 AM   #2371
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Lol i really dont have a choice unless i sell my new motor. I am prepared to go a different route if it does. We already talked about that.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:32 PM   #2372
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Guys I got to run the reinforced block hard again this weekend at VIR racing for the NASA TTU Championship. I absolutely beat the snot out of it . I ran a new personal best in TTU trim (limited to 495 whp).

Pretty ballistic looking lap...the splitter cam definitely give you the sense of speed.


I then DQ myself and turned the wick up to 600 hp and ran a couple sessions but ran into other issues (blew the gasket in the header). It was fairly cool and I have an impressive cooling system but no even a hint of high coolant temps.

Very, very pleased so far. I wish I could turn up the power more but I don't have enough fuel injector right now and not enough time to tune between the next couple of races.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:20 PM   #2373
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C'mon phil, you should know this crowd better than that. No teasers allowed! We want to hear how you beat it like a rented mule for years on end. Had high RPM knock, over revved, over-boosted and overheated.... and it must look like it was driven by Nana to church on Sundays upon breakdown
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:57 PM   #2374
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C'mon phil, you should know this crowd better than that. No teasers allowed! We want to hear how you beat it like a rented mule for years on end. Had high RPM knock, over revved, over-boosted and overheated.... and it must look like it was driven by Nana to church on Sundays upon breakdown
Lol....



Phil glad to hear that. I am still in the great debate on what im to do.i will be sending my hydra out for the upgrade soon and Contacting u about the 1300 injectors soon. But thinking the same as u phil. Run it with limited power 450 for now and then taking motor out and sending it to u. Im also thinking the hydra mist just for added protection more then for power.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:17 PM   #2375
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BOOOOM!
I hope that doesn't mean his block went boom.

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C'mon phil, you should know this crowd better than that. No teasers allowed! We want to hear how you beat it like a rented mule for years on end. Had high RPM knock, over revved, over-boosted and overheated.... and it must look like it was driven by Nana to church on Sundays upon breakdown
LOL! I did most of that at the last race, running out of fuel, detonating, over reved it. This race I just spun it to 8500 RPM and overboosted into fuel cut a few times...nothing too crazy .

Unfortunately none of us stuck with these weak new blocks have the luxury of waiting years.
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