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Old 10-25-2010, 08:16 AM   #1
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Default JDM STi Ver 7 EJ207 Intake Manifold/TGV deletes

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I'm going a slightly different route with the intake for my EJ257 build. So up for grabs is my JDM intake + factory TGV deletes. It's in good shape with only a couple minor scratches, as shown. Looking for $250 + shipping. I can also include a throttle body (with all sensors) for extra, if you need one. Shipping time is 5-7 days to the West Coast and 7-10 days to the East Coast. Thanks!








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Old 10-27-2010, 12:31 AM   #2
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:32 AM   #3
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:40 AM   #4
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might be a stupid question, but is this direct plug in play on hybrid setup? ej257sb+ej205 heads?
or will i start throwing codes?
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:53 AM   #5
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might be a stupid question, but is this direct plug in play on hybrid setup? ej257sb+ej205 heads?
or will i start throwing codes?
Not a stupid question. Yes, it would be a direct bolt in because your 205 is drive by cable and this manifold is set up for drive by cable (notice the IAC slit above the throttle body inlet). As far as throwing codes, I'm not sure if your ECU would throw a code due to lack of TGVs or not. I would think there is an easy fix for this as most people are deleting TGV's. These already come with TGVs deleted.

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Old 10-30-2010, 09:58 AM   #6
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i'll put it this way i test drove a wrx that had a hybrid setup exactly the same as this, sti im on top of a wrx block, didn't work out too well.....the car was throwing codes and after about 3 minutes into the drive would stall out and would start back up under a smokescreen
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:18 AM   #7
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i'll put it this way i test drove a wrx that had a hybrid setup exactly the same as this, sti im on top of a wrx block, didn't work out too well.....the car was throwing codes and after about 3 minutes into the drive would stall out and would start back up under a smokescreen
Well, perhaps the car you "test drove" was a POS and had other underlying issues?

Was he using 550cc STi injectors with a WRX ecu setup for 440's?
Was his manifold torqued down correctly?
Did he bother to use gaskets?
Did he have a stuck injector?

There are plenty of people running STi manifolds and TGV deletes on this forum. To the original poster who asked the question...

Search TGV deletes and codes under the forum and see what you come up with.

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Old 10-30-2010, 10:30 AM   #8
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To satisfy my own curiosity (we don't have TGVs in Japan):

The TGV FAQ:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...v+delete+codes

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Do TGV Deletes cause a CEL? Yes. By removing the TGV motors, it will throw quite a few CELs. The bad news with this, is the TGV CELs will throw your car into limp mode, meaning unlike some other CELs that you can still drive around with and have no fear, the TGV codes limit boost/RPM operation meaning they must be taken care of in order to drive your car for any reasonable distance.

How do I fix the TGV CEL? You have three methods:
1. Normally, you remove the TGV motors and the rod that holds the butterfly valves in place. You could leave the rod in place (sans butterfly valves) and reinstall the TGV motors. This would allow them to actuate normally making the system think everything is working correctly.
2. APS makes a block that you attach the TGV motors to, this allows them to actuate normally making the system think everything is working correctly. These are not sold separately though, but can occasionally be purchased in the Private For Sale Forum or on eBay.
3. Various engine management systems can remove the associated CELs.
But "Suicidal Eggroll" says No...

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TGV CELs won't put you in limp mode.

As long as your current CEL is in fact TGV related, it can be turned off with the rest of them with the AP.
He's usually on point...

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Old 11-01-2010, 07:26 PM   #9
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:12 PM   #10
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Another dumb question (yay). Are the JDM tgvs also pnpd or do they just come with the deletes from the factory and thats it?

What about the JDM manifold. How is it anymore special than its USDM counterpart?
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:36 PM   #11
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so let me get this right, this does have the bracket for a drive by cable application. I'm driving a 05 WRX and may be interested. Also are these topfeed?

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:51 PM   #12
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so let me get this right, this does have the bracket for a drive by cable application. I'm driving a 05 WRX and may be interested. Also are these topfeed?

These are top feed TGV deletes. As you can see from the second picture, there is a throttle cable bracket.

For the previous poster, they are not ported. Just factory deleted. This manifold is different than the US STI because it is set up for a cable throttle with the appropriate air bypass at the throttle body inlet (see the first picture).

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Old 11-02-2010, 01:27 AM   #13
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It's a red WRX manifold with JDM TGV deletes. That's reductive, but there's no difference in 02-05 WRX manifold and that manifold that I can plainly see; in addition I own a V8 one piece to compare it to as well which is a long-runner manifold WITHOUT TGVs.

The expensive/nice pieces are the TGVs, the manifold is nothing special.

Not trying to **** on your thread, just trying to clear up some misconceptions I saw in the thread. I apologize if I come off as ****ting on your thread.
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:37 AM   #14
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It's a red WRX manifold with JDM TGV deletes. That's reductive, but there's no difference in 02-05 WRX manifold and that manifold that I can plainly see; in addition I own a V8 one piece to compare it to as well which is a long-runner manifold WITHOUT TGVs.

The expensive/nice pieces are the TGVs, the manifold is nothing special.

Not trying to **** on your thread, just trying to clear up some misconceptions I saw in the thread. I apologize if I come off as ****ting on your thread.
Thanks for thread-crapping with your "public service announcement". Regardless of what you "plainly see", it's advertised as exactly for what it is.... an EJ207 manifold off a Version 8 STi.

The "long runner" manifold, as you mistakenly put it, is the same length as this one. It's just cast as one piece to the same length as this one with TGV deletes. That is a Spec C intake. NOWHERE in my ad did I say this was a Spec C intake. FYI, not all Version 8s are Spec C

If you have no interest in purchasing, than don't bother posting. Follow the rules or we can get a mod to advise you.

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Old 11-04-2010, 03:23 AM   #15
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Thanks for thread-crapping with your "public service announcement". Regardless of what you "plainly see", it's advertised as exactly for what it is.... an EJ207 manifold off a Version 8 STi.
Title states Version 7.

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The "long runner" manifold, as you mistakenly put it, is the same length as this one. It's just cast as one piece to the same length as this one with TGV deletes. That is a Spec C intake. NOWHERE in my ad did I say this was a Spec C intake. FYI, not all Version 8s are Spec C
The "long runner" manifold, as I mistakenly put it, is the same length as your assembled manifold; I referred to it because the runners on the actual manifold are indeed longer than the ones actual manifold less the two TGV portions. I stated that there was no difference between that manifold and the USDM 02-05 WRX manifold. Which is true. The top halves are IDENTICAL. The difference lay in the separate TGV section; the top half isn't anything special. Sure it's from an EJ207 STI and JDM-awesome.

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My intent was to clear up anything that your potential buyers were asking. Obviously you know more since you're in JDM-awesome-land and your member number is lower, meaning I should shut up. I'll try not to be as polite next time.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:21 PM   #17
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still an awesome deal even if the jdm intake manifold is the same as the us version. the jdm deletes cost 210 dollars by themselves plus powder coating the manifold is about 100 bucks i really want to buy this but i just bought a ported exhaust manifold maybe ill get enough money before its sold
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Would those TGV's work with a USDM sti intake manifold?

I am converting my sti from side feed to top feed and need top feed tgv's but keeping DBW.

If so, i will take the whole setup.
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