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Old 09-21-2012, 10:44 AM   #3026
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Also in for headers, UEL though
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:51 AM   #3027
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Yay tint!!! The first thing I did to mine lol

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Why would he replace his with the same bad design? It was a design flaw they ran with. It creates excessive heat and bad flow and unequal exhaust gas temps. These also creat higher heat for the cylinder four and two (hint ring land failure)

The only problem with equal you loose the boxer rumble

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:16 AM   #3028
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how come all of my ideas are crossed out! come on seriously ben, you NEED streetglow.

but in all seriousness i think you should do UEL Tomeis
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:32 AM   #3029
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I think a CF Drive shaft should be higher on your list Ben. It'll dramatically increase down low response and spool up time man, help bring that power and torque curve to the left a bit more
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:34 AM   #3030
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I think a CF Drive shaft should be higher on your list Ben. It'll dramatically increase down low response and spool up time man, help bring that power and torque curve to the left a bit more
13.4 LBS of rotation mass bybye =D I agree they are great for down low. Up high not so much




Took this from rallysport but you can see down low its a lot better. Should help with downshifting too

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:51 AM   #3031
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I'm in for a steering wheel. Followed closely by headers.
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Yay tint!!! The first thing I did to mine lol



Why would he replace his with the same bad design? It was a design flaw they ran with. It creates excessive heat and bad flow and unequal exhaust gas temps. These also creat higher heat for the cylinder four and two (hint ring land failure)

The only problem with equal you loose the boxer rumble
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how come all of my ideas are crossed out! come on seriously ben, you NEED streetglow.

but in all seriousness i think you should do UEL Tomeis
Tint and steering wheel are both things I would definitely want to have, but they're not on the go-fast list, so they're not a top priority.

Headers would be EL for sure. I wouldn't spend the money on unequal lenth ones, when I already have stock headers.

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I think a CF Drive shaft should be higher on your list Ben. It'll dramatically increase down low response and spool up time man, help bring that power and torque curve to the left a bit more
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13.4 LBS of rotation mass bybye =D I agree they are great for down low. Up high not so much
Took this from rallysport but you can see down low its a lot better. Should help with downshifting too
That's kind of misleading. They started the pull 600rpm's sooner. I think it's really the same gain they saw across the board. 20WHP more throughout the rev range is a pretty solid increase. I haven't seen to many other results to back that up though.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:55 AM   #3032
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Tint and steering wheel are both things I would definitely want to have, but they're not on the go-fast list, so they're not a top priority.

Headers would be EL for sure. I wouldn't spend the money on unequal lenth ones, when I already have stock headers.

That's kind of misleading. They started the pull 600rpm's sooner. I think it's really the same gain they saw across the board. 20WHP more throughout the rev range is a pretty solid increase. I haven't seen to many other results to back that up though.
Anything that decreases weight and rotation mass is great to do. It's why people buy light wheels same concept. Good choice on doing EL, UEL is so inefficient just some people can't let go of the boxer sound. Why steering wheel? Tint is great for the summer especially with black seats
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:59 AM   #3033
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Anything that decreases weight and rotation mass is great to do. It's why people buy light wheels same concept. Good choice on doing EL, UEL is so inefficient just some people can't let go of the boxer sound. Why steering wheel? Tint is great for the summer especially with black seats
Yeah, that's the same reason I went for lightweight wheels. But with wheels, it's not an added expense to lose weight (as long as you were going to get wheels anyways). But $1k for a driveshaft seems like a lot of money. I do agree that it would be better, but I just don't know how much. The lightweight flywheel didn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

Steering wheel and shifter are two interior items that you actually interact with while driving. Setting those up in a way that you like seems totally justifiable to me. It's just another thing that's quite expensive for what it is.

I'm on the fence for tint, but I do want it. I really don't mind clear windows. I like being able to see out. I'm not one to make the car less functional, which I fear it might be at night. But during the sunny days, I'm sure it would be great. I've tried telling my wife that baby wants limo tint to shield her eyes, but she hasn't bought into that yet
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:07 PM   #3034
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Here's the CF driveshaft test you linked to. Shows 25HP gains on an STI.

http://theattack.rallysportdirect.co...on-driveshafts

But they did a similar test on the BRZ and it showed basically no gains.

http://theattack.rallysportdirect.co...ber-driveshaft

I do realize they are completely different cars. One has AWD and double the power, and many other differences. And my car has nearly double the power of the STI. I'll have to look into this a little more. 25HP gains may be worth it, but that seems very unlikely. I'd expect the difference to be more in transient response (hard to see on the dyno).
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:09 PM   #3035
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Yeah you can get away without tint up in the Great White North, where you live. Down here in TX it is a must especially on a dark car. My car was tinted before I even picked it up from the dealer. 20% all around.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:12 PM   #3036
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Yeah, that's the same reason I went for lightweight wheels. But with wheels, it's not an added expense to lose weight (as long as you were going to get wheels anyways). But $1k for a driveshaft seems like a lot of money. I do agree that it would be better, but I just don't know how much. The lightweight flywheel didn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

Steering wheel and shifter are two interior items that you actually interact with while driving. Setting those up in a way that you like seems totally justifiable to me. It's just another thing that's quite expensive for what it is.

I'm on the fence for tint, but I do want it. I really don't mind clear windows. I like being able to see out. I'm not one to make the car less functional, which I fear it might be at night. But during the sunny days, I'm sure it would be great. I've tried telling my wife that baby wants limo tint to shield her eyes, but she hasn't bought into that yet
The flywheel took off what 3.?lbs? That's not a very big change compared to almost 14. however I think your going to see the biggest change in driviability in low rpms something the dyno won't really show. However the less mass the engine has move to make the wheels move should increase power for you. The bigger the power the more it will show I think

I find my 15% to be great during the day and only slightly annoying on country roads mountains ext at night. 25-30% might work well for you.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:13 PM   #3037
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What about 07 wrx brakes?

I will never do limo tint again. Can't set anything at night, especially if its on the back window and your trying to back up. You think your tint laws are bad, California you can't have anything on the front half of your car except a 4"strip across the upper windshield. Have any bushings you haven't changed out (shifter, steering, transmission, etc?)
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:15 PM   #3038
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What about 07 wrx brakes?

I will never do limo tint again. Can't set anything at night, especially if its on the back window and your trying to back up. You think your tint laws are bad, California you can't have anything on the front half of your car except a 4"strip across the upper windshield. Have any bushings you haven't changed out (shifter, steering, transmission, etc?)
Definitely agree on the limo tint, I don't even think it looks good to be honest.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:22 PM   #3039
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Yeah the darkest I will go is 25%, I think 35% is just about right though. Of coarse if your getting the streetglow you have to get the chrome tint with the flame pattern ;p
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:23 PM   #3040
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Yeah you can get away without tint up in the Great White North, where you live. Down here in TX it is a must especially on a dark car. My car was tinted before I even picked it up from the dealer. 20% all around.
Yeah, there area handful of days a year, where it's terribly hot. But leaving the windows cracked while I'm at work drops the interior temp by probably 40 degrees, so it's actually bearable to get in, and not an oven.

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The flywheel took off what 3.?lbs? That's not a very big change compared to almost 14. however I think your going to see the biggest change in driviability in low rpms something the dyno won't really show. However the less mass the engine has move to make the wheels move should increase power for you. The bigger the power the more it will show I think

I find my 15% to be great during the day and only slightly annoying on country roads mountains ext at night. 25-30% might work well for you.
Flywheel only loses a couple of pounds, but it's a larger diameter. I do think you're right about losing 10lbs of rotating mass is a good idea. But that's probably similar to 2.5lbs per wheel, which I don't think is that noticeable. Losing 5lbs per wheels becomes more of a difference.

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I will never do limo tint again. Can't set anything at night, especially if its on the back window and your trying to back up. You think your tint laws are bad, California you can't have anything on the front half of your car except a 4"strip across the upper windshield. Have any bushings you haven't changed out (shifter, steering, transmission, etc?)
I've heard the 07WRX brakes aren't much of an upgrade, but they do looks worlds better. I'd probably go for at least STI brakes if I were to do it.

CA allows any tint in the back and rear sides. That would be nice. The main reason I want it is to keep sun off of baby. So going dark back there would be nice. I'd rather keep it lighter up front, but I don't really like the mismatched look.

http://www.iwfa.com/Portals/0/PDFDoc...aw%20Chart.pdf

I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned bushings or mounts. Motor and tranny mounts probably should have been done long, long ago. But I always put them off because $500 for some chunks of rubber and aluminum seems like a ripoff. I've done all the basic shifter bushings, but I could go further with that too.

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Definitely agree on the limo tint, I don't even think it looks good to be honest.
I'm glad other people don't like dark tint. In the summer, I think I'd love 30% or maybe even 20%, but when winter rolls around, I am driving in completely darkness to and from work for 6 months straight. I think dark tint might get annoying. Maybe I'll just do 50% and be legal about it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:33 PM   #3041
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Mounts are great but increase cabin noise. Motor mount, tranny mount, rear positive power bushing, and the steering bushings are ones to consider.

I think 30% would be a great choice for you. BTW I'm with others I hate 5%
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:58 PM   #3042
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I'll go ahead and cast my vote for some good fuel delivery, closely followed by that rotated setup.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:21 PM   #3043
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:44 PM   #3044
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Imo anything above 35% isnt worth it because you still have the fishbowl look.

I have 20% all around and 70% on my windshield. The only time its a pain is backing up when its raining at night when the street has no other lighting.

Otherwise it depends on the film you get but visibility at night is honestly not affected to me by much..maybe im used to it. Some films of the same % are darker to see through than other from the inside.

And another reasom is because at school I leave stuff iny car. I domt want people to see Inside. Not like I leave expensive things in plain sight but I dont want people to see inside my car when im not in it. Most of the time im rolling all wondows down unless its raining or snowing. Lol. Idc about temperature.

I say do 35% all around minus the windshield.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:57 PM   #3045
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i have 12% all the way around. i have 2 kids that sit in my back seat. my wifes jetta is 7% on the back, 27% on the fronts.

honestly, if you dont do around 25% you are just wasting money. i had a charcoal 3m put on both cars, it is not as dark as a black tint, but has better reflective properties.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:08 PM   #3046
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Yep like I said mine is 20-25% all around and with the plasma blue color I think it looks perfect. Not obtrusive at all at night and keeps the car much cooler during the heat of the day.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:09 PM   #3047
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i can tell you Ben, on a black car, i wish i went 7% rear, a clear on the windshield. my car is a nightmare in the summer. luckily i work in a safe area, i park my car inside the shop with the windows down august and most of september.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:21 PM   #3048
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I love your build. And those youtube videos. Lol. Keep them coming !
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:34 PM   #3049
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I have 35% all around on mine to keep it GA legal. I used to have 20% on other cars. You can tell it is lighter but it was still worth doing and it looks a lot better than not being tinted at all.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:43 PM   #3050
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Well, it's 50% all around in MN. Most local guy just get prescriptions for darker though. It wouldn't be hard to do. I'm just not convinced that I want it darker.
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