Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday July 28, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Member's Car Gallery

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2011, 02:43 PM   #301
Tifore
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 277755
Join Date: Mar 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Default

Quick question Xluben,
Why did you decide to tune to E85 instead of running E93 or E91? I'm just curious why the change and what the pros and cons of this is?
-Tifore
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Tifore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 03:39 PM   #302
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifore View Post
Quick question Xluben,
Why did you decide to tune to E85 instead of running E93 or E91? I'm just curious why the change and what the pros and cons of this is?
-Tifore
E85 is generally about a 50WHP/50WTQ increase over pump gas (with corresponding tunes). It is essentially "free" power (assuming you have all supporting mods). And it is generally considered to be safer for the engine due to the increased knock resistance (even with more power).

E85 will decrease fuel economy by about 25%, so be prepared to get gas more often. Right now E85 costs considerably less than Premium, so it actually ends up costing about the same per mile and possibly even less with E85, depending on mileage and gas prices. No matter what it is MUCH cheaper than race gas or other fuel than can give as much power as E85.

The other thing to consider is availability of E85 stations. If it is your daily driver I would only recommend making the switch if you can easily find E85 locally. You can't switch back and forth without reflashing the ECU and essentially draining the tank, so it's not like "flexfuel". You would basically go to E85 and stick to it.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 04:10 PM   #303
ofspunk7
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 249401
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Nord' St Paul
Vehicle:
2005 LGT and 91 MX5

Default

Yeah. E85 is a ton of fun.

E85 MPG....
Summer: 15 - 17 MPG
Winter: 10 - 13 MPG *due to winter mix + car warming up

93 octane (same mods)
Current: 20 - 22 MPG
ofspunk7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 04:40 PM   #304
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

How long do people let their car idle? Jeez.

Over the winter I got the following mileage:

93oct: 19-20MPG
E85: 16-17MPG

I've only been on E85 for about a month now, but the drop in mileage hasn't been as bad as I expected. I do fill up earlier in the tank though, so I end up stopping at the gas station about twice as often as before.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2011, 10:29 PM   #305
ofspunk7
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 249401
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Nord' St Paul
Vehicle:
2005 LGT and 91 MX5

Default

In the winter it warms up until the needle is at "cold" or higher. 3 - 10 minutes (depending on temp, -20* to 33*) .... it kills MPGs. Add to that the crappy E85 winter mix and you drop 2 - 5 MPGs. City driving.

Wait till you have E all winter. I switched back and I can't believe how little I get gas now.
ofspunk7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 04:18 AM   #306
Joker_927
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 267865
Join Date: Dec 2010
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Portland, OR
Vehicle:
2005 Outback XT
Silver

Default

This thread has officially infected me with the mod bug. Wow. Hoping to see you put some sway bars in. The e85 has me jealous.

Subscribed.
Joker_927 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 08:38 AM   #307
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ofspunk7 View Post
In the winter it warms up until the needle is at "cold" or higher. 3 - 10 minutes (depending on temp, -20* to 33*) .... it kills MPGs. Add to that the crappy E85 winter mix and you drop 2 - 5 MPGs. City driving.

Wait till you have E all winter. I switched back and I can't believe how little I get gas now.
Since winter mix E85 actually has more gas in it, shouldn't you get higher mileage (other than idling for 10 minutes a day, which I never do)?

I just filled up after a half tank of basically 100% highway miles on E85 and got 19MPG! Not bad, IMO. City has been a solid 16MPG, even in the winter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker_927 View Post
This thread has officially infected me with the mod bug. Wow. Hoping to see you put some sway bars in. The e85 has me jealous.

Subscribed.
I think they may be coming sooner rather than later...
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 07:44 PM   #308
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

New photo


Last edited by xluben; 04-11-2011 at 07:57 PM.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 09:03 PM   #309
armadatilem
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 252270
Join Date: Jul 2010
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: QC, Canada
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 5dr Premium
WRB

Default

Spacers ?
armadatilem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 09:44 PM   #310
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Yep. I was wondering if anyone would notice. Maybe my picture was a bit too obvious...

I got H&R 25mm spacers. They seem like quality parts. Looks equivalent to 17x8" et28. The wheels are really flush with the fenders now. I think it looks pretty good.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 09:58 PM   #311
armadatilem
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 252270
Join Date: Jul 2010
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: QC, Canada
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 5dr Premium
WRB

Default

Yea that looks real good!
Can I ask you where you took them ?
armadatilem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 10:05 PM   #312
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Where I took what? The photo is from a park by my house...
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 10:14 PM   #313
durtydurt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 235745
Join Date: Jan 2010
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 5dr
WRB

Default

Spacers look great, any noticeable difference in ride or handling? Any more pics from different angles with the spacers on?
durtydurt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 10:15 PM   #314
Tifore
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 277755
Join Date: Mar 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Default

I think he means where you got the spacers from.
Tifore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2011, 11:32 PM   #315
armadatilem
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 252270
Join Date: Jul 2010
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: QC, Canada
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 5dr Premium
WRB

Default

Yes, the spacers..
armadatilem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 07:31 AM   #316
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by durtydurt View Post
Spacers look great, any noticeable difference in ride or handling? Any more pics from different angles with the spacers on?
I haven't really noticed any difference in driveability after putting them on, but I haven't driven them hard. But no vibration or anything like that at freeway speeds. Here's a couple more photos:







Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifore View Post
I think he means where you got the spacers from.
Quote:
Originally Posted by armadatilem View Post
Yes, the spacers..
I bought them from someone on here.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 08:41 AM   #317
fourmicah
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 128760
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Over there>
Vehicle:
2012 Ruckus/WRX
Red&White/Gray

Default

Looks much better with the spacers on there, I still think you need some wheels on there though. I'm interested to see where the wind blows you on this one.





Just waiting to see who takes this one and makes come smart ass remark.....
fourmicah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 09:36 AM   #318
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fourmicah View Post
Looks much better with the spacers on there, I still think you need some wheels on there though. I'm interested to see where the wind blows you on this one.

Just waiting to see who takes this one and makes come smart ass remark.....
I think I'm going with sways and endlinks soon. I'm planning on sticking with the stock wheels and stock springs/shocks for now.

I know there are a lot of spacer haters out there. I figured I would give them a shot, but I'm monitoring them closely and if there are ANY signs of issues they'll be coming off immediately.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:18 PM   #319
KWIL
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 40848
Join Date: Jul 2003
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Moscow, Idaho
Vehicle:
2011 Impreza WRX
5-Door, DGM

Default

I'm with Xluben on the stock wheels...I actually like them.

The one thing I will plug is tint. Even just a light legal tint would look sweet on the obp.
KWIL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:37 PM   #320
woorooxoo
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 268474
Join Date: Dec 2010
Vehicle:
2014 WRX
White

Default

I have to agree with the tints, once photo-bucket is done updating I will post a picture for reference. Like the look with the new spacers
woorooxoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 07:49 AM   #321
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

I've considered tint. MN is 50%, so it's pretty weak. Not sure if it's worth it for something that light.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 12:46 PM   #322
snkp360
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 276780
Join Date: Mar 2011
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Napa, CA
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 4DR
Obsidian Black Pearl

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xluben View Post
I've considered tint. MN is 50%, so it's pretty weak. Not sure if it's worth it for something that light.
Did your Cobb AP void any warranty?

Also here is a 35% tint on a OBP Sedan for reference, I don't think its too dark at all and can see out just fine at night. Its not exactly "legal" here in CA but nobody really cares when its that light

snkp360 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 12:58 PM   #323
RandomRacing
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 138089
Join Date: Jan 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Vehicle:
2011 WRX
"Oh hi officer" Red

Default

Hey xluben,

Great build thread. I picked up the Defi series gauges also, have a question about the oil pressure gauge: When you took out the stock oil pressure sensor, does it throw a code? Did you just leave the wire unplugged?

Thanks!
RandomRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 01:16 PM   #324
The WoRX 14
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 274681
Join Date: Feb 2011
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Western NY
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Limited 5d
SWP

Default

xluben,

I just got a 2011 wrx and want to do an e85 tune/mods. Thanks for the awesome thread to get me started!!!
The WoRX 14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 01:52 PM   #325
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2012 Forester 2.5X
2002 WRX Sedan

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snkp360 View Post
Did your Cobb AP void any warranty?

Also here is a 35% tint on a OBP Sedan for reference, I don't think its too dark at all and can see out just fine at night. Its not exactly "legal" here in CA but nobody really cares when its that light
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...M/1946cefc.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5114413_n.jpg
I don't have an AP. I am tuned open source.

Tint looks good. I don't know if I even want to go with 35%. I don't need to give people a reason to pull me over...

Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomRacing View Post
Hey xluben,

Great build thread. I picked up the Defi series gauges also, have a question about the oil pressure gauge: When you took out the stock oil pressure sensor, does it throw a code? Did you just leave the wire unplugged?

Thanks!
No code. I believe I just left the wire unplugged, but I don't actually remember. I know I just took the old sensor out, and it was fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The WoRX 14 View Post
xluben,

I just got a 2011 wrx and want to do an e85 tune/mods. Thanks for the awesome thread to get me started!!!
Thanks!
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
xluben's Pictures and Review of the SPT Exhaust for the 2011 WRX 5 Door Hatch xluben Car Part Reviews 26 11-08-2012 06:55 PM
My first post and my first Subaru, a 2011 WRX 5 door in white. Decade240 Newbies & FAQs 25 06-20-2012 01:48 PM
2011 wrx 5 door hatch with Rota 17"x7.5 +48 5x100 wheels? BretCutler Tire & Wheel 4 01-14-2011 08:05 AM
2011 WRX 5 Door Ruz4life General Community 55 10-13-2010 11:37 PM
2011 WRX 5 Door Ruz4life General Community 10 10-04-2010 04:02 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.