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Old 12-10-2012, 01:16 AM   #4151
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So jealous of the snow. we haven't had ANYTHING yet up here in Boston. So glad I put off putting my winter's on. I'll wait until the first snowfall.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:37 AM   #4152
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Jealous of the snow! We barely get any in the NW. Also we don't have E85 readily. Grew up with family in the twin cities and that area is the only wide-west area I'd ever consider. You got lucky, xluben, or chose well.
Is anyone else amazed that this build thread is so active and continually interesting?
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So jealous of the snow. we haven't had ANYTHING yet up here in Boston. So glad I put off putting my winter's on. I'll wait until the first snowfall.
We had zero up until this point. Last I checked there was a little over 13" on my deck!
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:23 AM   #4153
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I hate you. This has been the driest summer and winter on record. All we have gotten is bitter cold and wind
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:33 AM   #4154
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It was 75* still on Friday in AZ. Sorry guys, I'll take beautiful winters and NO snow any day of the week
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:18 PM   #4155
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Well its 23* here in Missouri, but still no snow guess the sooby is going to have to wait for its fun
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:02 PM   #4156
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It was 75* still on Friday in AZ. Sorry guys, I'll take beautiful winters and NO snow any day of the week
Yeah your winters are nice but **** your summers
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:42 PM   #4157
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xluben, you have the spacers on in those snow pics? I have koni/RCE blacks waiting to be put on, plus snow tires to go on my stock wheels and your setup looks pretty sweet.

Have any issues with the low suspension and snow? Kinda want to keep it at stock height until after winter.


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I wouldn't even consider going out with a dusting of snow on the ground if you have the OEM tires. Seriously. Many people have ruined their stock wheels and sometimes suspension components by thinking that the stock (summer) tires can be used in the snow.
Meh. I went out a few times on the stock tires last year where there was a dusting to a half inch or so on the road. Only time I lost control/traction is when I had a momentary lapse of thinking and tried to get through a yellow light making a 90* turn going way too fast. Slid almost all the way across the intersection before catching traction and finally turning. It helps if you don't drive like an idiot haha. Still, I was roasting the tires just messing around on backroads though. Good times. I've driven a 400rwhp car in the snow on 275 summer tires. You just have to go slow and take it easy with any steering throttle input. Most people just freak the hell out when anything is falling from the sky because of what they hear on the news/net...

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:06 PM   #4158
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xluben, you have the spacers on in those snow pics? I have koni/RCE blacks waiting to be put on, plus snow tires to go on my stock wheels and your setup looks pretty sweet.

Have any issues with the low suspension and snow? Kinda want to keep it at stock height until after winter.
No spacers. I was blowing snow with my lip simply due to the snow accumulation. Drifts/piles of snow were well up into the intercooler. It's not ideal, but so far hasn't been catastrophic.

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Meh. I went out a few times on the stock tires last year where there was a dusting to a half inch or so on the road. Only time I lost control/traction is when I had a momentary lapse of thinking and tried to get through a yellow light making a 90* turn going way too fast. Slid almost all the way across the intersection before catching traction and finally turning. It helps if you don't drive like an idiot haha. Still, I was roasting the tires just messing around on backroads though. Good times. I've driven a 400rwhp car in the snow on 275 summer tires. You just have to go slow and take it easy with any steering throttle input. Most people just freak the hell out when anything is falling from the sky because of what they hear on the news/net...
It's not impossible to drive on summer tires in the snow, it is just foolish and dangerous and something I would not do. Summer tires can take up to twice as long to stop vs a winter tire. Even if you are driving very cautiously it's still possible that someone (possibly with winter tires) could stop in front of you, and you would be unable to stop in time or avoid them. If you were alone on a road, you could probably (slowly) make it to where you were going, but once you add in the variation of other (likely bad) drivers, then the summer tires are much less safe.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:28 PM   #4159
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Funny how people at work make fun of me for putting snow tires on. They think AWD is just some miracle system that does everything. They obviously know nothing about tire compound. I had to drive home on my summers when we got hit with an unexpected 7 inches. I made it no problem but I was not confident and there were a couple "intense" moments.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:57 PM   #4160
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It's not impossible to drive on summer tires in the snow, it is just foolish and dangerous and something I would not do. Summer tires can take up to twice as long to stop vs a winter tire. Even if you are driving very cautiously it's still possible that someone (possibly with winter tires) could stop in front of you, and you would be unable to stop in time or avoid them. If you were alone on a road, you could probably (slowly) make it to where you were going, but once you add in the variation of other (likely bad) drivers, then the summer tires are much less safe.
Exactly^

Other people are a lot of the reason why **** happens, even to good drivers. Can't be too safe or be able to stop/maneuver too quickly.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:29 PM   #4161
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You got me so motivated to do my build all the time I spend in here I blame you!( in a good way) got a discount email from rally sport direct and couldn't turn it down just ordered intake(aem),downpipe(invidia catted), and thanks to you the greddy exhaust! Very excited for the spring
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:59 PM   #4162
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Any new pics in the snow?
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:24 PM   #4163
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Funny how people at work make fun of me for putting snow tires on. They think AWD is just some miracle system that does everything. They obviously know nothing about tire compound. I had to drive home on my summers when we got hit with an unexpected 7 inches. I made it no problem but I was not confident and there were a couple "intense" moments.
AWD does little to nothing in regards to accident avoidance (stopping/turning). Being able to move from a stop is convenient, but usually has little to do with safety. Winter tires (even on FWD or RWD) are going to be far better than simply having AWD (with summer or all season tires).

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Exactly^

Other people are a lot of the reason why **** happens, even to good drivers. Can't be too safe or be able to stop/maneuver too quickly.
Being able to stop/turn is the most important for staying out of trouble on slick roads.

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You got me so motivated to do my build all the time I spend in here I blame you!( in a good way) got a discount email from rally sport direct and couldn't turn it down just ordered intake(aem),downpipe(invidia catted), and thanks to you the greddy exhaust! Very excited for the spring
Sounds great! Stage 2 is a lot of fun. Big upgrade over stock!

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Any new pics in the snow?
Sorry, no. We got 13" total. My snow pics were from 9AM when it was only 4-5" probably. I went out to the mall around noon when there was probably 8" or so. I didn't go out at all after that. Now most of it is plowed and it is dark out when I leave/get home from work.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:05 AM   #4164
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In regards to tint, I had 50% on front doors, and 35% on everything behind. Sometimes at night, turning into a street/lot that didn't have good lighting, it was pretty hard to see...and that was at 50%.

I'd go darker than 35% on the back though, like 20 or 15.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:51 AM   #4165
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Well this is what worries me a bit...
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:53 AM   #4166
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Ben, I have 50% on the fronts and 35% on everything else. No issues for me so far and my subdivision is lined with trees and doesn't have street lights!
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:05 PM   #4167
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35% is actually a fairly light tint if you ask me . . . at least with the 3M Color Stable film. Visibility is unaffected in my experience. Are there people in your area with varying levels of tint that you can go sit in the cars? What about the tint shop itself? A busy shop will have all sorts of cars rolling in and out. When I went to have mine done, I asked one of the patrons if I could sit in their car when it was done. I'm glad I did because it sealed the deal for me on getting the 35%.

Maybe its just my OCD, but the look of different tints in front vs. rear is visually unappealing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:07 PM   #4168
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Maybe its just my OCD, but the look of different tints in front vs. rear is visually unappealing.
Same here. I got 40% on all my side windows, and 20% on the rear window.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:28 PM   #4169
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When I turn into my neighborhood at night, there are no streetlights. Not one in sight. So unless i have my brights on it can be pretty dark. I'm not worried about turning into the street, but overly cautious that no animal/person will be foolishly sitting on the corner...its more the reflections from the dash while looking left out the window that causes decreased clarity.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #4170
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When I turn into my neighborhood at night, there are no streetlights. Not one in sight. So unless i have my brights on it can be pretty dark. I'm not worried about turning into the street, but overly cautious that no animal/person will be foolishly sitting on the corner...its more the reflections from the dash while looking left out the window that causes decreased clarity.
Stop using armor all on your dash lol

Xluben you should find someone near you with 20 and 35% tints so you can see the difference. No windshield tint though as that makes everything darker
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #4171
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Yeah, ofspunk7 has 30 or 35% up front and 18 or 20? or something in the back and I've been in his car at night. I'm still undecided. It will be something in the 20-35% range, I'm just not sure what. I'm not really a fan of the dual tint level look, but that may be best...
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:38 PM   #4172
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Ben hows your clutch holding up? Im in the market AGAIN for something to hold well over 400 tq, any suggestions. I dont mind it being rough.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:22 PM   #4173
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I have the ACT HD and 4 puck sprung disc. It has been holding nearly 500WTQ for probably 10k miles now. Still working fine. It's quite rough on engagement though. For some reason it seems less harsh lately. I'm not sure if I'm just getting better at driving it, or if it is loosening up, or maybe wearing out? I hope it holds up a while longer, but I'm guessing the puck style clutches wear pretty fast.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:54 AM   #4174
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While we dont have e85 readily available, we have weird tint laws. I had 35% in front (required by law) and 20% around the back of the car. I went legal because I have a family member in law enforcement and apparently seeing tinted windows after a pull-over is the untimate suspect. Cops cant touch me because i'm fully legal but I still advocate (even more if your illegal) a full roll-down anytime you're stopped.

Thought tint percents look different with different stock paints and I dount xluben cares, I believe I still have my SWP WRX 35/20% tint pics.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:33 AM   #4175
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I'm not too worried about looks. I can do 20% everywhere but the front windshield, but I don't know if I want to go that dark.

And I would take E85 over any level of tint 100% of the time
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