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Old 06-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #2176
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Could you not just put a new 3rd gear in and just run a tune with alittle less power? Even at say 400whp Im sure its a blast.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:21 PM   #2177
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:33 PM   #2178
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Man, it's so interesting how the gear set got chewed up like that. I'm new to transmission work but I give it a ton of credit to not sheering off sooner.
Any word on the rebuild, eta?
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:46 PM   #2179
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Not to thread jack, but my 3rd went out in my 07.. Scary experience. Downshifted from 4th to 3rd the slow down on a slight decline on a icy hill, then I just heard a quiet but rapidly getting loud whirring noise then , BOOM. Metal popcorn sound.



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Old 07-04-2012, 11:57 PM   #2180
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So that's just from downshifting... hmmmm
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:00 AM   #2181
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Yeah, surprisingly enough. It was me and 3 other people in the car, so there was added weight. The transmission was pretty NEW, it had been replaced 2 months prior for an exploding center diff from the previous owner. But yeah.. Just a simple downshift to help me slow down blew my third.

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Xluben, your hatch is one of the "Power Three" hatches currently on nasioc. I would hate to see you quit and get rid of her, but I also understand all too well where you are coming from.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:07 AM   #2182
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Seriously, get some PPGs and call it a day. This thing is a monster!
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:00 AM   #2183
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its a MOTHA ****IN MONSTA!
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:32 AM   #2184
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A 6 speed swap can be done for around $3k...although I prefer the 5 speed gearing
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:57 AM   #2185
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A 6 speed swap can be done for around $3k...although I prefer the 5 speed gearing
That is certainly not true. You need a lot more than just the tranny to do the swap. And even just the tranny will cost more than that unless it's some old beat up thing.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:09 PM   #2186
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Agreed Xluben, I just got my car back and going to be right at 400WHP after my 600 mile breakin. The swap is very costly and a serious pain in the ass. PPG gears are now running what, $4000 alone, you are looking at a rebuilt andrewtech tranny for close to $6500-$7000. The Tomei gear sets are like $2500 (have no idea what these even are), and the rallyspec syncro meshes are like $4200. So I know of no STI swap that is less than $8000+ not including new wheels etc.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #2187
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Agreed Xluben, I just got my car back and going to be right at 400WHP after my 600 mile breakin. The swap is very costly and a serious pain in the ass. PPG gears are now running what, $4000 alone, you are looking at a rebuilt andrewtech tranny for close to $6500-$7000. The Tomei gear sets are like $2500 (have no idea what these even are), and the rallyspec syncro meshes are like $4200. So I know of no STI swap that is less than $8000+ not including new wheels etc.
Those are built 5 speeds. For a 6 speed swap you need the tranny, axles, drive shaft, clutch, wheels, etc. And if you want a working DCCD it is even more. Both a built 5 speed and a 6 speed swap are very costly.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:24 PM   #2188
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Which one did you go with Ben?
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:31 PM   #2189
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Which one did you go with Ben?
None of the above. Stock 5 speed and then trading the car in seems like the cheapest option.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:36 PM   #2190
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I hate to see that Ben, but I totally understand. I just got mine back and debating the whole thing, needless to say my uncle works for Ford and I get the A-plan was actually looking at the Focus ST and calling it a day!
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:39 PM   #2191
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I'm wondering how much the stock 5-speed would run. Would you really have to replace the entire thing?
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #2192
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The swap is very costly and a serious pain in the ass. PPG gears are now running what, $4000 alone, you are looking at a rebuilt andrewtech tranny for close to $6500-$7000. The Tomei gear sets are like $2500 (have no idea what these even are), and the rallyspec syncro meshes are like $4200. So I know of no STI swap that is less than $8000+ not including new wheels etc.
there's a few of us on 3gwrx that have done the swap w/ aftermarket dccd controllers for less than $4k. not sure where these inflated costs are coming from. if you do the work yourself, you're looking at < $3,500.

if you've shy-ed away from the swap in the past because of your above confusion, feel free to shoot me a PM. i'd be glad to help you with the correct information and knowledge for the swap. we have also created itemized lists of parts and costs for those interested in the 6-speed swap in their GH/GE that is available on 3gwrx, as well.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:56 PM   #2193
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why not just fix the 5 speed and turn down the power?
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:58 PM   #2194
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why not just fix the 5 speed and turn down the power?
Why not make your hatch a sedan to get rid of your over-nightshaded tail lights? Jesus, this guy right here!
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:00 PM   #2195
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there's a few of us on 3gwrx that have done the swap w/ aftermarket dccd controllers for less than $4k. not sure where these inflated costs are coming from. if you do the work yourself, you're looking at < $3,500.

if you've shy-ed away from the swap in the past because of your above confusion, feel free to shoot me a PM. i'd be glad to help you with the correct information and knowledge for the swap. we have also created itemized lists of parts and costs for those interested in the 6-speed swap in their GH/GE that is available on 3gwrx, as well.
He's talking about new costs (and mostly build 5 speeds actually). The only time the 6 speed swaps are in the $4k range is if you can find a steal on a used tranny and do the work yourself. For new parts with labor his estimates are probably reasonable.

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why not just fix the 5 speed and turn down the power?
It would probably just break again eventually.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:30 PM   #2196
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:32 PM   #2197
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Why not make your hatch a sedan to get rid of your over-nightshaded tail lights? Jesus, this guy right here!
lol hatch > sedan


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He's talking about new costs (and mostly build 5 speeds actually). The only time the 6 speed swaps are in the $4k range is if you can find a steal on a used tranny and do the work yourself. For new parts with labor his estimates are probably reasonable.


It would probably just break again eventually.
should be able to handle ~350 with no FFSing
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:52 PM   #2198
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Agreed, thats what I meant. Maybe others will, but I wouldnt want to put an old tranny in my11, I know I know, but thats just my own OCD issues. Agree it can be done for cheaper than I stated:

#1 - I dont have the time, work 70 hrs a week.
#2- I dont totally have the knowledge base.
#3- I would have to use my buddies garage and lift for some time.

I personally would just box up my tranny and send it off to Andrewtech and have Akuma reinstall. Im old (40) and tired of wrenching on critical parts. I really appriciate the invite to see what the swap takes and I will PM you.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:55 PM   #2199
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Mike's been on stands in my garage for over a month now!
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i missed 3rd before and all I could see in my head was your pictures of the the teeth all being sheered off
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