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Old 10-30-2010, 11:26 AM   #1
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Question No STI demo so the best I can test drive is a WRX

I am very interested in buying a 2011 WRX STI Sedan (no Sport-tech package) and the dealers in my area do not have any available for test drives. I personally cannot buy a car without test driving it, so the best the dealer can do is give me a test drive in a WRX sedan. I am going today and I believe it is a 2009.

My daily driver for the past five years has a manual transmission, plus in that time I have driven a number of manual cars, so I am capable with a manual transmission. The only thing I notice about a couple cars is that they are harder to get going from a stop (i.e. vague clutch feel and touchy throttle). I want to make sure that the STI does not have these characteristics, but it really requires seat time to determine.

Does anyone know what I am referring to and whether or not the STI exhibits this trait?

Will the WRX be a good indicator of the STI?

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Old 10-31-2010, 10:30 AM   #2
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the 09 wrx will be nothing like a 2011 sti. wait or find a dealer with one to test drive. my opinion.
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:42 AM   #3
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I test drove the 2009 WRX and I liked it. I am just wondering how different the STI will be? I am thinking it can only get better?

I did find a 2009 WRX STI at a dealer a bit of a drive away, it would probably be the best indicator short of an actual 2011. However, when I called them they said I could only drive it if I first discussed price and then put a refundable $500 deposit down with the intention to buy it. Sounds overkill since I will not be buying the 2009.
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:46 AM   #4
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Just buy the Sti. Obviously many many people on here love them. If you liked the Wrx and plan to modify the car go with the Sti. If you do not plan on doing alot of modifying I would think about just buying a new WRX. I work for a Subaru dealership and have an 08 Sti on my own.. I drove the New Wrx and was very impressed.

FYI We dont let people drive them either before buying.
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:04 PM   #5
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Thanks M-dub39, I was starting to think I was being treated unfairly (as I am in my early 20s). It's good to know that this is standard treatment.

I am not considering the WRX, because in Canada the price premium to the STI is rather small and I definitely think it is worth it. I would prefer to test drive it first, but I liked the 2009 WRX (which was not even the 265hp version), so I am thinking it can only get better in the STI.

I am just concerned it may be touchy to get going from a stop, but it was not anywhere near a problem in the WRX.
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:37 PM   #6
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Same thing here. I am 31 and drive an '07 Volvo S40 and they still wouldn't budge on the test drive issue.
They said they would let me take a 2010 out for a spin but that isn't the same thing, is it.

Good luck if you go ahead with the purchase, I got mine for $42000 all-in just FYI. Yes, I live in Canada and it is more expensive in the 'States, no need for all you lucky Americans to comment on the price.
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:38 PM   #7
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I test drove a 2009 WRX about a month ago or so, wasn't impressed at all. I'd wait until you can test drive what you really want, plus the '09 WRX will be nothing like the '11 STi...
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Old 10-31-2010, 06:10 PM   #8
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I actually get alot of canadian customers where I live coming down and picking up New Subarus to save alot of money.
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:26 PM   #9
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The 09' STi will be an almost identical feel to the 11' STi.
WRXs being a whole nother story, but if you want the hatch, i'd say go for the 09' STi
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:33 PM   #10
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Thanks M-dub39, I was starting to think I was being treated unfairly (as I am in my early 20s). It's good to know that this is standard treatment.

I am not considering the WRX, because in Canada the price premium to the STI is rather small and I definitely think it is worth it. I would prefer to test drive it first, but I liked the 2009 WRX (which was not even the 265hp version), so I am thinking it can only get better in the STI.

I am just concerned it may be touchy to get going from a stop, but it was not anywhere near a problem in the WRX.
Hhhmm I never had a problem with test

driving cars, but the salesmen was always with me.......and from driving an 08 sti 04 08 09 and own an 11 wrx I would say the wrx is easier to drive and being awd a different animal on take off vs rwd or fwd.....takes getting used to but the clutch feel I thought was good.

Just my $.02
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:24 PM   #11
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Thanks M-dub39, I was starting to think I was being treated unfairly (as I am in my early 20s). It's good to know that this is standard treatment.

I am not considering the WRX, because in Canada the price premium to the STI is rather small and I definitely think it is worth it. I would prefer to test drive it first, but I liked the 2009 WRX (which was not even the 265hp version), so I am thinking it can only get better in the STI.

I am just concerned it may be touchy to get going from a stop, but it was not anywhere near a problem in the WRX.
I honestly wouldnt worry about it. Its not a big deal. All cars drive differently when you just jump in them and go. Its not like the STI's clutch is super stiff or grabby, it is just something you will need to get used to. It will always be different but within 5 minutes you will be used to it. Just get it, you wont be dissapointed
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:21 AM   #12
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Interesting. I wasn't aware that some car dealerships don't allow for test driving of the wrx or stis... is that a standard thing, or does it vary amongst dealerships?
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:38 PM   #13
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Probably strictly a dealer decision. I can't blame them for wanting to make sure that you are serious about buying before they turn someone loose on the streets to "test drive" such a fast car. How many dealers do you think would be selling brand new STis with body work after someone did a full throttle run through a fence after loosing control of a car they had no intentions of actually buying.

On the other hand I completely understand the OP's hesitation to purchase a car without first driving it to see if it is actually what you want to spend your hard earned money on. Kind of a catch 22. If the dealer lets everyone that comes in to the dealership test drive the STi they will be selling a lot of damaged/ abused cars. If they don't let you test drive the car they run the risk of you going to a different dealership that will.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:05 PM   #14
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Dude the '11 sedan sti is great. I love mine.
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:55 AM   #15
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I test drove a 2011 sti a couple weeks ago and had no such problem. I havent driven a manual in about 2 years either. They improved 2011's, alot.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:27 AM   #16
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i was only allowed to test drive my 2.5i in the parking lot. not on the road and the parking lot is small as hell
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:29 AM   #17
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characteristics will be similar, just improved. Test drive the 09 and if you like it, just know the STI will be better. Clutch will feel similar. Take off will be slightly difference because of shorter gearing in the STI...but overall I think they're close enough that if you absolutely hated something about the WRX, you're going to hate it with the STI too.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:07 PM   #18
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I own a 2011 WRX and test drove an 2011 STi. It's day and night different in term of how the car ride, handle and brake. I would say straight line peformance is close but it is the ride and handling that makes them different. I would hihgly recommend you drive an STi before getting one. I personally like the STi but due to the mileage that I am putting on my vehicle, the WRX is a more practical solution for me.
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:21 AM   #19
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I took the plunge a couple weeks ago and I bought a 2011 WRX STI sedan in Satin White Pearl. I bought it without test driving it, which was a bit of a risk, but I am glad I bought it because it is awesome!

The difference between the '09 WRX and the '11 STI is quite noticeable, but at the same time there are similarities while in the lower RPM range. That was my impression from the brief test drive of the WRX anyways.

The throttle and clutch in the STI are very nice and precise, I was concerned they would be too touchy, but they are not. As you likely know, with the dial you can make the throttle less sensitive (Intelligent mode) or more sensitive (Sport #), so you can tailor it a bit to your preference. I leave it in the default Sport mode and it is great!

It's unfortunate that you cannot test drive it, but either way I am very pleased with the car.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:22 PM   #20
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I own a 2011 WRX and test drove an 2011 STi. It's day and night different in term of how the car ride, handle and brake. I would say straight line peformance is close but it is the ride and handling that makes them different. I would hihgly recommend you drive an STi before getting one. I personally like the STi but due to the mileage that I am putting on my vehicle, the WRX is a more practical solution for me.
OP, I would test drive the WRX if you have a chance. The STI will slightly improve on all of the performance aspects of your test drive. I have owned an 02' WRX & 06' STI. I just bought a 2011 WRX Limited last week. After owning the STI, I just felt that its not worth the extra money if your not taking advantage of the better suspension bits, tranny, or DCCD. I auto-x'd a bit back when I bought the STI in 06, then sold it early last year. WRX is a great car if your not into auto-x or tracking, which is what the STI really shines for!
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