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Old 10-30-2010, 02:06 PM   #1
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What to do with a built motor, 3,431 lb (w/o driver) shoe box........take it to the drag strip! This car was not built to be a drag car or any sort of race car, but we were curious to see what it would run in the 1/4 after we installed our new EL TS header and custom uppipe/downpipe combo, so owner Dale and I took it on two occassions to Pittsburgh Raceway Park and Quaker City in Salem, Oh.

We gave the car a few runs even though the 2 step launch control was not working and the car was breaking up bad in 2nd gear after the 1-2 no-lift shift. We couldnt' get it sorted out that night but the car was able to make an 11.4111 pass with only a 1.6334 60'. At Quaker City the Mitsu guru Curt Brown of Curt Brown Racing jumped behind the wheel for only two passes before they called the night due to high winds. With traction issues due to the cold temps and track prep, the car breaking up in 2nd and a 1.767 60' the shoe box was able to run the faster current mph to date of 121.96. The car was able to pick up 31+ mph on the back half of the track on this particular run....too bad we could get the car to leave the line and run smooth in 2nd on front half!

I believe the old ET/MPH record was 11.896 @ 121.28. With a few more lbs of boost than shown on the dyno graph (26 psi compared to 23 psi) we were able to run a best of 11.4111 and a 121.96 trap speed even with track or car issues on every single pass. Oh well. It was fun to take the car to the track to see what it would do.... Now on to a new motor and bigger and better things for the Foz!

Location: Quaker City Salem, Oh and Pittsburgh Raceway Park
Ambient Temp: 40-50 at both locations
Elevation: 1,226 at QC and 1,223 at PRP
Weather: Partly Cloudy and windy at both locations
Tires: Hoosier- Quick Time Pro

2005 Subaru Forester XT
Owner: Dale (parts designer @ Moore Performance & Race Parts)
Tuner: Phil Grabow
Dyno Info: Dynojet 248
Peak HP at RPM: 509 whp @ approx 5,250
Peak Torque at RPM: 472 wtq @ approx 3,900
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: ?
Target Boost: 23 PSI on this particular pull
Target AFR: 12:1
Fuel: E85



Engine
Element Tuning Competition 2.5L motor with custom Manley pistons for secret-spec compression ratio.
ACL race bearings.
Oversized Supertech exhaust valves Cosworth 280 cams
Element Tuning rods
Power Enterprises timing belt
Tomei timing belt guard
11mm STi oil pump
Kartboy crank pulley
Dual catch cans with high flow/high seal crankcase ventilation system *
Hydra 2.6 engine management system with wideband, stutter-box, and no-lift-to-shift options

turbo/intake/exhaust
Garage XTi-spec Borg Warner s200 series turbo with divided t3 turbine housing and custom 3" v-band discharge *
4" intake with 7" Green air filter *
custom composite heat shielding with NASA gold reflective covering *
Tial blow-off valve
Garage XTi turbo blanket with NASA gold reflective covering *
Moore Performance 4/2 equal length modular header *
Moore Performance prototype up-pipe with single Tial 44mm wastegate *
Moore Performance prototype 3" downpipe *
Moore Performance 3" one-off exhaust *
Buddy Club muffler, modified for spring-retained slip fitment, Garage XTi "pan head" styling treatment *
legacy GT intake manifold, modified for rotated turbo fitment, NASA gold reflective covering *

Fuel
APS top-feed rails, modified for flow and fitment *
Bosch 044 in-tank fuel pump
Fuel Injector Clinic 2150cc injectors
Aeromotive A1000 regulator with custom plumbing *
Golan high flow fuel filter

cooling
Garage XTi oversized aluminum radiator *
Garage XTi air-to-water intercooler with -12 an lines, Johnson AB pump, custom ice resevoir and heat exchanger (4.75 gallons of coolant capacity) *
Custom aluminum intercooler piping utilizing o-ringed V-band and aluminum hose stays *
[Moore Cool coolant in both systems]
Custom air-to-air oil cooler setup with large matrix Mocal core, -10 Mocal lines/fittings, Garage XTi take-off plate, Mocal thermostat and filter mount, and K&N filter (5.0L Mustang part number) *

electrical
Braille lightweight racing battery in custom mount *
Garage XTi "Big 3" grounding kit *
Painless CirKit Boss weather proof fuse box for all ancillary accessories

suspension
KW Variant 3 coilovers -- tuned valving/spring rates for VIR by Bob Semsey of 48 Motorsports. Custom powdercoated coils and black perch locks. *
STi aluminum control arms
Hotchkis WRX control arms modified for STi fitment *
STi trailing arms with Group N bushing set
Whiteline anti-lift kit
Cobb STi rear swaybar modified for Forester fitment *
Cobb swaybar mounts
PDE rally camber plates situated for maximum caster.
F/R Poltec adjustable swaybar mounts modified for stance *

wheel and tire
18x9.5 Gram Lights 57s custom powdercoated HD (Harley Davidson) black
275/40/18 Nitto NT05 - Street/auto-x/track
Custom GarageXTi center caps *

Steering
2004 STi steering rack
Whiteline drop endlinks
Super Pro steering rack bushings

drivetrain
2007 STi transmission
Group N Transmission mount
STi 5x114.3 hubs with Group N bushings/Whiteline drop ball joints
STi Torsen R180
Forester trailing arms with Group N bushings
Carbonetic Triple Carbon clutch with heavy pressure plate option
push-to-pull conversion with modified STi clutch master cylinder for smoother operation *
Subaru factory short shifter
Kartboy shifter bushing set
Spider DCCD controller
ACPT carbon fiber driveshaft
reinforced rear diff carrier (to resist flexing) with Turn In Concepts clunk kill (filled with Window Weld for custom durometer) *
2005 STi rear cross member
Turn In Concepts trans mount bushings
Kartboy rear differential mount bushings

stoppers
Racing Brake 6 pot BBK with 14" 2 Piece front rotors - GarageXTi-spec pads and livery *
STi Rear Brembos powdercoated fire engine red - GarageXTi-spec pads and livery - DBA 4000 slotted rotors. *
Goodridge stainless brake lines
modified pedal geometry for better initial bite and heel/toe action *
STi master cylinder
Cusco master cylinder brace powder coated black.
ATE Blue fluid

interior
2005 WRX front seats
Alpine IVA-W203 double din head unit
Alpine PDX 4.100 digital amplifier mounted under driver seat
CDT CL6.25 separate set
Image Dynamics 10" subwoofer mounted under passenger seat
Redline goods shift boot and armrest cover in black perferated leather
STi Duracon shift knob
Turbosmart E-Boost 2 custom mounted in glove box and LED shift light in pillar *
Garage XTi gauge pod with shallow-mount ProSport boost/water temp/oil pressure gauges *
reworked stock Forester console plastic, custom painted brushed satin black *
2005 STi steering wheel

exterior
Factory PSM paint with satin black two-tone accents.
35% Solar Gard Tint
Factory Forester bumper reworked for heat exchanger exposure. Stainless mesh powdercoated black *
Zerosports grille package with custom stainless steel mesh powdercoated black *
JDM Subaru Sports lip, modified for heat exchanger exposure and splitter fitment *
Custom front splitter/diffuser, CAD-programmed/aero tested by Vindler Motorsports *
Zerosports sideskirts, modified for rigidity *
JDM Subaru over-fenders, modified for wheel fitment/travel *
SYMS rear wing with shaved brake light
JDM Subaru mid-wing
Zero Sports rear spats
Modified stock Forester rear bumper for exhaust/diffuser fitment *
GarageXTi rear bumper garnish/diffuser mount/exhaust heat shield (cnc'd aluminum, hand-formed to fit bumper contour) *
06+ Forester lower body molding
06+ Forester XT turn-signal mirrors
06 Forester taillights with GarageXTi custom tint "candy" paint *
GarageXTi E55 AMG bi-xenon headlight conversion with custom shrouding and housing paint *
JDM fog light cover on left hand side--intake venturi on right hand side for cold air to filter *
GarageXTi "Zero Hour" and "XTi" badging. *


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Old 10-30-2010, 02:18 PM   #2
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Good job
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:24 PM   #3
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:39 PM   #4
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really cool looking forestor--kind of mad max like.I could see myself having it as a dd.nice job.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:22 PM   #5
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:41 PM   #6
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baddest forester i've ever seen
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:43 PM   #7
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saw this this thing at WBM. i wish i knew what i was looking at...i would have paid better attention
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:04 PM   #8
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Nice job. Love the air-to-water intercooler set up
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:34 PM   #9
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One of my all time favorite fozzies..most unique by far.

Amazing custom work done, keep up the great work.
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:50 PM   #10
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Just wondering if it wasn't made for the strip, why air to water ic ?

Cool foz tho!! Bet it's fun..
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:31 PM   #11
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Thanks guys! Dale took a lot of time to work out many custom details on this car from the under hood goodies to the suspension, exterior, etc. and I'm very happy to have him as part of my team designing and working on new an exciting components for the Subaru community! We designed and tested a few prototype items on this car, and we hope to offer Subaru owners more unique components as we continue on, but I just wanted to show you what we've done so far and what we're capable of. If all goes well and we have enough time this winter, this forester will be an entirely new animal next year!
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:46 PM   #12
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Just wondering if it wasn't made for the strip, why air to water ic ?

Cool foz tho!! Bet it's fun..

Thanks!! Ya, it's a blast to drive and you can really haul a lot of stuff in the back of that thing!

The liquid/air IC allows for a very short trip from the turbo compressor outlet to the throttle body while being very efficient. This makes the car more streetable than most fmic setups which are more associated with drag cars than a liquid/air unit. Essentially, that was the purpose of this forester......to build a fast, fun to drive street car with unique components. These intercoolers can also be 100%+ efficient when water and ice are added to the tank and the pump is run to circulate the ice cold water through the systems. The cold water can actually cool the intercooler to a temperature of less than the ambient air temp making this setup a great choice for autox cars, street cars, etc, but the additional weight and more complex plumbing make it less than ideal for most drag only applications Beyond that, it's different than the traditional tmic or fmic setups were all used to seeing!

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Old 10-30-2010, 07:01 PM   #13
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Thanks!! Ya, it's a blast to drive and you can really haul a lot of stuff in the back of that thing!

The liquid/air IC allows for a very short trip from the turbo compressor outlet to the throttle body while being very efficient. This makes the car more streetable than most fmic setups which are more associated with drag cars than a liquid/air unit. Essentially, that was the purpose of this forester......to build a fast, fun to drive street car with unique components. These intercoolers can also be 100%+ efficient when water and ice are added to the tank and the pump is run to circulate the ice cold water through the systems. The cold water can actually cool the intercooler to a temperature of less than the ambient air temp making this setup a great choice for autox cars, street cars, etc, but the additional weight and more complex plumbing make it less than ideal for most drag only applications Beyond that, it's different than the traditional tmic or fmic setups were all used to seeing!
So does this Awic setup have some time of water cooling unit ? If not, how long until the water warms up ? I have always heard awic's are for drag cars...I heard you put a bunch of ice in go down the strip, go get more ice , then do it again. Tell me more! Does this unit have a water cooling device? I know you wouldn't want the water heating up...
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:08 PM   #14
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I guess I know it has a heat exchanger but is this a new type of unit that is capable?
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:43 PM   #15
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I guess I know it has a heat exchanger but is this a new type of unit that is capable?
I've seen plenty of liquid/air IC's on purpose built, big HP drag cars but most cars that pull double duty as a street car and drag car use an air/air unit. The heat exchanger is on the front of the car in front of the radiator. You are correct about the AWIC being used in that way for a drag car, but that was not our purpose when we chose to use this liquid to air unit on the Foz build. The cool water flows over/through the IC that is being internally heated by the compressed air from the turbo. The warm IC heats the water that is flowing around it, then the warm water moves toward the heat exchanger, is cooled, then goes back for another round. That's not exaclty how it works, but it gets to the point. After each run warm water can be drained from the tank then filled again with cooler water and ice for optimal IC temps. Go to http://bellintercoolers.com/pages/LAMain.html for more info or call Gerhard at Bell Intercoolers for help with your exact application. He's a great guy that's willing to answer all of your questions in depth and we use Bell for all of our IC assemblies.
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:28 PM   #16
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I'm not going to say anything about how it looks other than to each his own.

BUT that Foz delivers! Holy hell. Very nice. Glad to hear people using Bell; when I was considering a custom IC I went straight to them.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:28 AM   #17
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I was over at the Moore Performance shop again over the weekend. They had one of their twin scroll header/up-pipe combos in the shop for me to take pictures of. Check it out:



I think this is almost identical to what Dale has in the Forester.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:41 PM   #18
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Props, bad ass Forester... Have seen in person.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:34 PM   #19
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"secret spec compression"

does this mean you are not going to be telling us lol
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whats that header setup run and can it be done in a t3 configuration at the turbo flange?
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:51 PM   #21
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The UP on the above pictured TS exhaust manifold is flanged for the Evo IX turbos.
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The UP on the above pictured TS exhaust manifold is flanged for the Evo IX turbos.
I want this SO badly. I think I should get a transmission to handle the load first though...

Sweet lunchbox!
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:00 PM   #23
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yeah I know it is flanged for the evo turbo but I want to know if they can make it for a t3 flange or maybe even t4.I like the way it is shaped like a gtspec single scroll uel header but is twin scroll and it will fit around my cosworth oil pan.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:27 PM   #24
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Maybe Ryan from Moore Performance can give a better update, but I will go from what I have heard.

They are finishing my header up-pipe combo right now, mine will be the first production setup for a stock location/flange turbo. Then they are going to look into starting to mock up more flange configurations but it will all take time. Since mine will be a single scroll setup it may not be that hard to do a t3 or t4 adaptation, not sure though.

Oh, and for the record this one is Equal Length! A lot of work put into it to make it a top performer. Also the gold coating in that photo is a ceramic coating that will be optional but will make it so you dont have to use header wrap!
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:56 PM   #25
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"secret spec compression"

does this mean you are not going to be telling us lol
Nope

I can tell you that you can run pump gas with a fair amount of boost with the secret CR. lol
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