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Old 10-31-2010, 10:28 PM   #1
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Anybody have any tips for smooth shifting 1st to 2nd gear? I noticed that the slower I accelerate the smoother the shift 1st to 2nd. I have to slip the clutch a little also. When I accelerate fast and shift to second the car will bog down. Thanks.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:15 PM   #2
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It's a new car, the clutch grabs real well. Either the clutch will ease up or you will get the shifting right soon enough.

As for bogging, that's pretty inevitable unless you are shifting at a higher RPM.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:01 PM   #3
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It's a new car, the clutch grabs real well. Either the clutch will ease up or you will get the shifting right soon enough.

As for bogging, that's pretty inevitable unless you are shifting at a higher RPM.
I hope so. This car is a pain to drive. 1st and 2nd gear are very sensitive. I see you have a 2011 do you give it any throttle when switching gears or do you let off the clutch fully then get on the throttle?
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:10 PM   #4
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Denneghy, my car feels way easier to shift today. If you saw my other thread, I had about 550 miles on it when the clutch pedal started feeling gritty...and I felt that the clutch gripped extremely well.

This morning, at about 630 miles, the grittiness was still apparent during the commute to work. I finished work, and headed to my car to expect the same thing. The first 5 minutes of the drive was the same...gritty. Although now I realized the clutch wasn't as sensitive as before...I have a bit more range on the clutch where I can slip it.

And after that 5 minutes, the grittiness went away. It is smooth as silk again and way easier to shift than I remember...weird. I'm at about 650 miles with an ideal feeling clutch now.

I give it a bit of throttle when I shift...that's how I usually drive with my MR2 and makes for the smoothest transitions. I'm pretty sure I do that with the WRX too.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:26 PM   #5
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Denneghy, my car feels way easier to shift today. If you saw my other thread, I had about 550 miles on it when the clutch pedal started feeling gritty...and I felt that the clutch gripped extremely well.

This morning, at about 630 miles, the grittiness was still apparent during the commute to work. I finished work, and headed to my car to expect the same thing. The first 5 minutes of the drive was the same...gritty. Although now I realized the clutch wasn't as sensitive as before...I have a bit more range on the clutch where I can slip it.

And after that 5 minutes, the grittiness went away. It is smooth as silk again and way easier to shift than I remember...weird. I'm at about 650 miles with an ideal feeling clutch now.

I give it a bit of throttle when I shift...that's how I usually drive with my MR2 and makes for the smoothest transitions. I'm pretty sure I do that with the WRX too.
That is weird I havent experienced anything like that. Clutch feels the same as day one. Clutches are complex though. In my previous cars if I let someone drive my car the clutch would feel totally different when I would drive it after. Do you release the clutch slowly when shifting from 1st to 2nd? If I don't the car jerks. The slower I release the clutch the less jerk. Its annoying though accelerating slowly in first then slowly letting go of the clutch when going into 2nd to get a smooth shift. The process takes a while. I need to practice more. I'm gonna try giving it a little more throttle. Hopefully its like you said and the clutch needs to break in I'm only at 1300 miles.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:50 PM   #6
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I slip the clutch a little bit on 1-2 shifts -- rather than let out the clutch completely linearly, I rotate my ankle up a few degrees, hold the clutch pedal there for one second, give it a little gas (not a powershift!), and then let out the clutch smoothly the rest of the way.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:57 PM   #7
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That first to second bogging is notorious on all WRX's because of the 5 spd's gearing. You'll get used to it and eventually figure out how to help reduce it.

I think the best way is to start to give it a bit of gas before you fully disengage the clutch after shifting into second. Just don't go too crazy or you'll burn up the clutch
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:49 AM   #8
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Thanks for the tips. I recentley started shifting real fast so the rpm's dont drop and get on the gas a little more. It has helped a lot. I was babying it too much fearing I would burn out the clutch. But it seems like the car has to be reved high when shifting. What's the average life of a clutch on these cars?
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:37 PM   #9
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I also recently picked up my '11 wrx (my first manual ) and I have been having the same problems. Im sure that most of my problems are simply due to the fact that I have only been driving manual for a week and am still a total noob at it. But does giving it more gas when shifting to second and releasing the clutch faster work? If so then I must not be doing it right cuz when I try that sometimes it jerks a little and I can't tell if it is from too much gas or pulling out the clutch too fast. Btw how can I tell whether or not I am giving it too much gas or letting the clutch out to fast in general when starting out in first or shifting to any gear? thx!
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:09 PM   #10
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Shifting a subie is a work of art. every manual is different. different pressures, different release points. the only way to get better is to conscientiously try every shift every time. i test drove 15 sports/luxury cars in 2009 after being a truck guy for a long time and they were all different. for my .02 cents worth, my 09 wrx shifted smoother than the 11 sti.. i'm still waiting to get past the first oil change though. around 2500 miles and the shifting is smoother every day. break in period + experience = smooth shifting.. good luck
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:22 PM   #11
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I also recently picked up my '11 wrx (my first manual ) and I have been having the same problems. Im sure that most of my problems are simply due to the fact that I have only been driving manual for a week and am still a total noob at it. But does giving it more gas when shifting to second and releasing the clutch faster work? If so then I must not be doing it right cuz when I try that sometimes it jerks a little and I can't tell if it is from too much gas or pulling out the clutch too fast. Btw how can I tell whether or not I am giving it too much gas or letting the clutch out to fast in general when starting out in first or shifting to any gear? thx!
Wrx is a little more difficult car to drive because of the awd and the gearing. I just keep practicing and learning everyday. Recentley I've been giving it a little gas before even releasing the clutch when shifting to 2nd. You can tell if your releasing the clutch to fast or giving it too much gas when the car jerks. For me the car jerks because I release the clutch to fast. Try releasing the clutch till you hit the catching point hold it there for a sec give it gas then fully let go of the clutch. Don't give it too much gas. Start with a little. If you still arent getting a smooth shift try giving it a little more gas. You will know if you give it too much gas if the engine gets too loud. good luck.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:46 AM   #12
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on an unrelated note I also noticed a clicking/ticking sound coming from the rear of my hatch (in that general area), and it seems to occur when I go over bumps or have rapid changes in the vertical force on my car (like when I am driving over the crest of a hill or driving through the trough of one). Any thoughts on what this sound might be? I didn't think it could be a bearing issue cuz there is no fluid near my tires and I just bought the damn thing, also has anyone else noticed a slight vibration coming from the right side speakers on bassy songs? Is one of my speakers blown already?
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:25 AM   #13
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I slip the clutch a little bit on 1-2 shifts -- rather than let out the clutch completely linearly, I rotate my ankle up a few degrees, hold the clutch pedal there for one second, give it a little gas (not a powershift!), and then let out the clutch smoothly the rest of the way.
I second this method! That's how I've taught people to drive manual.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:50 AM   #14
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on an unrelated note I also noticed a clicking/ticking sound coming from the rear of my hatch (in that general area), and it seems to occur when I go over bumps or have rapid changes in the vertical force on my car (like when I am driving over the crest of a hill or driving through the trough of one). Any thoughts on what this sound might be? I didn't think it could be a bearing issue cuz there is no fluid near my tires and I just bought the damn thing, also has anyone else noticed a slight vibration coming from the right side speakers on bassy songs? Is one of my speakers blown already?
I see I'm not the only one. I've experienced both problems. The speakers in this car suck. I just turned the bass down and left it like that. I couldnt deal with the vibration. I have no clue what that ticking sound is would like to know also. Sounds like something is loose in the hatch area. Looks like subaru needs to up its quality on the wrx.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:48 AM   #15
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I'm still waiting to get my first subie so idk how the manual will be, but I have an 00 integra in a 5 speed with a 7lb flywheel and stage 1 clutch disk and plate and for me its timing, I know how fast the revs drop, and when I start letting out on the clutch I'm slowly giving it more gas so it slips a little but not for long because my foot goes down continuously on the gas till I'm where I want to be throttle wise, but at the same time my foot only pauses midway into clutch engagment for maybe half a second then I fully let out on it and that eliminates most of the shudder, now my cars fwd and a subie is AWD so idk how different it will be
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:05 PM   #16
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Yep yep, same here. Speaker vibration is definitely there and so is the "clicking". I did notice that if the sound is essentially (but not completely) gone if the cargo cover/shade is retracted. So I'm guessing it's got something to do with that cover itself and/or the retraction mechanism. Easiest way to diagnose this is to have someone drive around while you're in the back.

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I see I'm not the only one. I've experienced both problems. The speakers in this car suck. I just turned the bass down and left it like that. I couldnt deal with the vibration. I have no clue what that ticking sound is would like to know also. Sounds like something is loose in the hatch area. Looks like subaru needs to up its quality on the wrx.
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:43 PM   #17
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I did some testing the other day while making a beer run and had one of my buddies sit in the back and play with the retractable cover while I was driving. At least for me that was what was making the clicking sound, when he removed the cover the sound was gone (unhinged it from the car entirely). As for the speakers, I know that the six speaker configuration is standard across the board now (according to my local subaru dealer) and I'm pretty sure that it is a kicker audio system. At least they are supposed to be better than the 4 speaker configs of old and even the older 10 speaker options. So I dont think that the vibration is a speaker issue as it only seems to occur on the right side, perhaps it is merely another piece of plastic vibrating around similar to the cargo cover. Btw I have made huge strides in the shifting department, fast shifting (once you learn where the clutch catches) makes for one smooth ride, imma hit 1000 miles this weekend and I'm getting my sub/amp combo and fog lights installed tomorrow, so it is gonna be one ****ing awesome weekend! (<= Damn I am a car nerd). Anyone have any good female car names for a wrblue 2011 wrx hatch? I make a habit of naming my cars, any suggestions would be helpful. (Ex. I named my last car a 1997 lexus es300, black/gray paint: Vanessa)
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:51 PM   #18
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someone on iwsti reported the buzzing was coming from a wire with its plastic clip not fully pressed in near the speaker. Clipping it all the way fixed it.

I'd love to find an actual write up with pictures as to how people are fixing the buzzing. That would drive me nuts.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-gener...ld-bass-2.html
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:54 AM   #19
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Anyone have any good female car names for a wrblue 2011 wrx hatch? I make a habit of naming my cars, any suggestions would be helpful. (Ex. I named my last car a 1997 lexus es300, black/gray paint: Vanessa)
The first thing that came to MY mind was Loretta, idk, it's like a mean black girl name(family guy), and a WRX is a mean looking car

That's just what I thought of
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The first thing that came to MY mind was Loretta, idk, it's like a mean black girl name(family guy), and a WRX is a mean looking car

That's just what I thought of
I was lookin at new baby names this weekend and I found the perfect one. Danikca! Kinda like Danica Patrick but not cuz its my subie. Anyways it seems like a name that matches blue very well, and I added a k before the c cuz i live in KC,K
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:58 PM   #21
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I've been driving my car for awhile now, and I have 1600 miles on the odo, so obviously I have tested the power out a bit. At first it seemed like too much power, but I must have gotten used to it because it doesnt seem nearly as quick any more. Anyone else experience this? How do I tell if it is fast if it feels mediocre now?
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:00 PM   #22
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I've been driving my car for awhile now, and I have 1600 miles on the odo, so obviously I have tested the power out a bit. At first it seemed like too much power, but I must have gotten used to it because it doesnt seem nearly as quick any more. Anyone else experience this? How do I tell if it is fast if it feels mediocre now?
Lol I had the same feeling. Our bodies must have just adjusted to the feeling of the jerk. To test it, time a 0-60 run. If its anywhere near 5 seconds (4.7-5.3 seconds is what most reviews give), you're good.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:44 AM   #23
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I have the sedan and rear deck piece is well cheap and really thin...dealer installed a 1/4 inch foam btw that and the metal seems to help but still hear it.....shifting is a bit weird but anymore reverse is the only time I smell clutch as its too tall of a gear for parking lots....

For the speaker thing, I noticed some songs will create a vibration on the cheap door plastic but that the Radio almost always will make it sound like that.....

For the speed thing, you will get used to almost any car....go drive a civic or something and you'll appreciate the wrx more lol....
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:09 PM   #24
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Anyone update the non-turbo to the STI short-shifter and want to give a before/after review to me? (I'm only looking at the Subaru short-shifter, I know there are other brands people like too).

I know some cars come with this from the dealer (more WRXs than NA models), but I'm more curious if someone has driven both types of shifters with a non-turbo. My friend has the short-shifter in his WRX, but I'm not sure if his tranny is comparable to my NA tranny?

I have a '11 2.5i and I'd like to improve the 'rubberiness' of the shifter, though it could just be a Subbie trait, because my previous '03 WRX has a similar rubber feel (that didn't have a short shifter either).

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Old 12-26-2010, 06:57 AM   #25
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Noobie question again ...
I was trying to down shift from 2nd to first while I was doing only 5km a hour or lower ,the down shift is very hard it felt like some thing is blocking it and grinding if you force it. Almost every time for right turn in a intersection where 2nd gear will drag the engine and if you downshift to 1st you feel that.( I try my best to match the rev but still the same result)

Not sure 5 speed wrx have the same issue
Because my friends 240sx never felt like that.
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