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Old 03-20-2014, 11:08 PM   #1
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I know this has been covered before, and I've read the other threads. But there always seems to be different opinions from different people. I've got a 2006 WRX wagon.

I know I obviously need:

Front bumper
Side fenders
Wheel well lining (what are the negatives to running no lining?)

But should I bother with converting to sedan front track? I've heard it's only a few mm difference. Would I also need to do the rear track, too?

If I was to go for the sedan track, I'd need:

Front Control arms
End links
Would axles be an issue?

Also, if I was to do the sedan track, should I do the Anti lift kit and Roll centre adjusters at the same time?

Finally, to really help me with the decision, can anybody post a picture of a hawk eye wagon with the sedan front end? Preferably in Silver?

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Old 03-20-2014, 11:49 PM   #2
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I know this has been covered before, and I've read the other threads. But there always seems to be different opinions from different people.
No, its the same thing posted over and over. There is no differing opinions.

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I've got a 2006 WRX wagon.

I know I obviously need:

Front bumper
Side fenders
Wheel well lining (what are the negatives to running no lining?)
Yes, that is all you need. Negatives to running no lining are.....dirty wheel wells? maybe a slight reduction in MPG (maybe 1mpg?).

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But should I bother with converting to sedan front track? I've heard it's only a few mm difference. Would I also need to do the rear track, too?

If I was to go for the sedan track, I'd need:

Front Control arms
End links
Would axles be an issue?
And sedan sway bar. Axles will fit, but they'll be about 10mm too short which could cause too much pull on the joints during turning. Axles are cheap, so probably best for peace of mind.

Why should you do it? helps keep the wheel to fender aspect proportionate, and if you keep the wagon rear you'll probably experience a slight increase in turn in response. Its really up to you.

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Also, if I was to do the sedan track, should I do the Anti lift kit and Roll centre adjusters at the same time?
Sure. you'll already have everything out of the way already.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:54 PM   #3
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Old 03-21-2014, 12:07 AM   #4
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Yes, that is all you need. Negatives to running no lining are.....dirty wheel wells? maybe a slight reduction in MPG (maybe 1mpg?).
Just read that taking them out can help with wider wheels and scrubbing on the lining. I'm already missing one of my wheels linings, so this would save me a little bit of cash not buying them. I'll think about it.

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And sedan sway bar. Axles will fit, but they'll be about 10mm too short which could cause too much pull on the joints during turning. Axles are cheap, so probably best for peace of mind.
I have a wagon sway bar, obviously this won't work which is a bummer.
I'll go for axles too. OEM sedan ones, or worth going for something aftermarket?

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Why should you do it? helps keep the wheel to fender aspect proportionate, and if you keep the wagon rear you'll probably experience a slight increase in turn in response. Its really up to you.
If I get a less positive wheel offset, that would help with it being flush with the fender so it's not a problem. Turn in response is always good. I think I'll jump the gun and do the track.

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Sure. you'll already have everything out of the way already.
Good to know. I can purchase an aftermarket white line control arm set which has the anti lift kit included - a good option or stick with STI arms? (i'm sure it's all similar)

Thanks again.
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:06 AM   #5
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Is it just the sedan look you want, or do you want the sedan track too?

I've converted to front sedan track, but kept the wagon fenders, bumpers etc..

People talk about needing sedan sways, but if you have a nice wagon swaybar already you can make it work with spacers and Kartboy type endlinks. If you need sways then just get a sedan one.

I'm still on my wagon axels, although after a couple of years one is finally giving up on me. I plan on replacing both at the same time with sedan axels.

I'd suggest keeping liners on. There are some wires etc. that would be exposed to all the crap the tires kick up. Not to mention tire rub on those delicate bits if you are going with some big tire/wheel combos.

I've gone with caster adding arms, Whiteline ALK, 3mm spacer between the arms and bushing pin (bolt), flipped bushing pin. With my Com-C strut tops I have 5.9 positive caster. Super nice!!!

I'm very happy with the sedan track conversion.

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Old 03-21-2014, 01:19 AM   #6
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Is it just the sedan look you want, or do you want the sedan track too?
Honestly, my front bar has a broken clip and has never sat properly, it's also not in the best shape and I can't run a sedan lip without modding it. I also like the flared guards for that wider look. So I figured I'd do the conversion, and the wider track will allow for wider wheel compatibility, as well as I'd imagine better grip?

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I'm still on my wagon axels, although after a couple of years one is finally giving up on me. I plan on replacing both at the same time with sedan axels.
Good to know - I'll just change it all at once.

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I'd suggest keeping liners on. There are some wires etc. that would be exposed to all the crap the tires kick up. Not to mention tire rub on those delicate bits if you are going with some big tire/wheel combos.
Good point, I was going to tuck the wires, but might just be easier to buy some new liners.

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I've gone with caster adding arms, Whiteline ALK, 3mm spacer between the arms and bushing pin (bolt), flipped bushing pin. With my Com-C strut tops I have 5.9 positive caster. Super nice!!!

I'm very happy with the sedan track conversion.
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have a pic?
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:51 AM   #7
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Here are a couple of very bad ones.





On the first one you can see how I've pushed the front wheel forward with my added caster.

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