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Old 05-15-2015, 02:42 PM   #1
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Default CNC Machining - Have a dream? Get it made.

Hey folks,

I'm a manufacturing engineer, and machinist with access to some pretty sweet machines here at work. If you have an idea that you want to have made, or a small batch of stuff made, I'll do it for just a smidge more than the material costs (gotta have beer for programming/designing, obviously). If the part is something I can use in my own ventures, then hell I'll absorb the prototyping costs.

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Old 05-17-2015, 03:49 PM   #2
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it doesn't really require machining but TSSfab and a couple of others have had transmission crossmembers fabbed up that are about 4kg lighter than stock (iirc) and i'd like one that's 25mm lower than stock as well.

tssfab also does a front crossmember with 25mm higher lower control arm mounts that fix the roll centre when the car is lowered. again, i'd love one, but they're just so damn expensive...

i could also do with a rear shifter bushing mount (the one that bolts up to the body) that is 25mm lower than stock made. here's the cobb vs the OEM:



once you lower the drivetrain like i have, the shifter needs to come down too obviously.

however they're made out of poly, not metal, so i'm not sure if you'd be able to make them or not.

there's also plenty of demand for lightweight driveshafts. DSS's alloy ones are a smidge over 400 each. if you could make one a little cheaper i'd be all over it.

it'd be great to get alloy (probably billet) knuckles made to reduce unsprung weight. LIC do various custom things like geometry changed, bearings changed etc etc ones: http://www.licmotorsports.com/blog/2...s-are-released

but even just some "cloned" i.e same as OEM but alloy ones to reduce the weight i'd buy for the right price. you'd obviously be able to make them custom (e.g with 5x100 strut holes but 5x114.3 knuckles/bearings or whatever) for people too. unsprung weight makes an enormous difference to ride quality, even ignoring performance.

MSI make a rear "T" bar delete that is basically four bolts and a couple tubes of steel that looks ridiculously simple to make but costs a fortune:



again, i'd be all over it for the right price. about 6kg weight saving. not worth the money for what they want for it.

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Old 05-19-2015, 04:35 PM   #3
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Yeah, well when you factor in that between my time cost and machine time, each hour is worth well over $100, but that being said, I like fabbing stuff. So the parts you see from the guys you posted are actually very, very good prices, considering those guys need to make money.

By T bar delete, do you mean their rear subframe replacement? http://www.rallysportdirect.com/MSI-...-Rear-Subframe or this part



I can do the drop shifter bushing, I actually just installed the Kartboy one in my car, I can take measurements off the others. Worst case scenario I can machine a gravity mold, pour in some ~85 Durometer A Polyurethane, or I can do it in your preferred metal.

I don't want to touch driveshafts, that's not really my gig, and I dont want to have to hunt down CV joints and such. Some of the bracing I can do, but again, buying the raw stock would be above what I want to spend on my own dime to produce, if someone else foots the bill for their own car, yeah, no biggie. I'm probably going to be making myself some trailing arms/lateral links and stuff in that area soon.

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Old 05-28-2015, 11:18 AM   #4
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i'd love the shifter bushing. no need to be metal - we won't be able to get the shifter arm in otherwise!

i'd definitely buy a front subframe with higher control arm mounts if you could make one cheaper than the TSSfab. same goes with the gearbox crossmember that's 25mm lower/3.5kg lighter.

another one is alloy knuckles/uprights. MSI currently make some for several thousand that have all sorts of custom stuff done (different caliper mount position and so on) but a direct copy of the OEM iron ones but in alloy would make some great unsprung weight savings. i'm sure they could be made as direct copies for a hell of a lot less than the $6500 that MSI wants... i'm actually tempted to take one to my local machinist and see what he can do.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:44 PM   #5
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How about knuckles that fit 5x100 suspension and rims but accepts a 5x114 axle and wheel bearing. there is a TON of people wanting this option. Has it been done and i just dont know about it or is this even posible? i dont know alot about it.
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:49 AM   #6
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just remember that MSI rear T brace delete requires the rear subframe also. it is not something you can just buy and use. The amount of engineering and testing that goes into these parts are why the price seems high.

I do like the idea of the 5x100 setup with the 5x114 bearings.
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:58 PM   #7
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just remember that MSI rear T brace delete requires the rear subframe also. it is not something you can just buy and use. The amount of engineering and testing that goes into these parts are why the price seems high.

I do like the idea of the 5x100 setup with the 5x114 bearings.
this does exist already.

http://www.licmotorsports.com/store/272%2C246

and matching 5x100 bearings if that's what tickles your fancy.

http://www.licmotorsports.com/store/272%2C249
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:58 AM   #8
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news on the shifter bushing? i'm willing to pay for it...
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Hmmmm... I currently have access to such machines at my university... but after graduation, I might be interested! ( final semester )

Do you just need the G-code ? or do you usually generate that by yourself ? I assume your client base doesn't know about gcoding...

Let me know and a free bump
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Old 10-31-2015, 11:27 AM   #10
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Hey folks,

I'm a manufacturing engineer, and machinist with access to some pretty sweet machines here at work. If you have an idea that you want to have made, or a small batch of stuff made, I'll do it for just a smidge more than the material costs (gotta have beer for programming/designing, obviously). If the part is something I can use in my own ventures, then hell I'll absorb the prototyping costs.

Get at me with your concepts and lets make some maaad stuff.

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This thread is bizarre. Clearly you have an engineer's concept of job cost analysis. Making parts on someone else's equipment will never be your own venture, son. If you signed the check for those Mori Seiki's, you wouldn't be offering to work for street cred and beer money.

And yet, where is a single example of your work?

At least you have a college twerp offering you free g code! Sounds like a match made in heaven.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:57 AM   #11
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If you could get the front and rear uprights made for around 1500 a set I would get both.
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Cheers to another Machinist/Fabricator on the forum!

We were cranking out some Titanium goodies this weekend. Gotta love these VanJens for Big intakes and I/C piping. Also a Turbosmart BOV mount.

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Old 11-08-2015, 08:31 AM   #13
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I had my uprights out/apart quite a bit recently. I'm tempted to take them to my machinist and see if he can make a direct copy of them in alloy. I'm yet to find something he can't make/copy.

Only thing is that once you remove the bearings/hubs, the knuckles themselves really *aren't* all that heavy. But it would be quite easy to get them made to suit 5x100 struts, and even have the holes drilled a couple of mm offset to get more static camber at the hub.

The only question becomes at what price.

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Old 11-09-2015, 05:46 PM   #14
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I can't imagine anyone machining uprights for a +3500lbs car for much less than $1000 a pop.. If there was a TON of interest, I'm sure someone would make a cast piece, but even those wouldn't be terribly cheap. Considering how critical a piece it is.. The fact that no one is offering them is probably a good thing :P
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I can't imagine anyone machining uprights for a +3500lbs car for much less than $1000 a pop.. If there was a TON of interest, I'm sure someone would make a cast piece, but even those wouldn't be terribly cheap. Considering how critical a piece it is.. The fact that no one is offering them is probably a good thing :P
People do make them. Msi has a set of uprights. Most people don't really have the coin for such things though.

http://www.mooresport.com/indexe.php...preza-uprights
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There is also these from the gobstopper

http://www.djm-motorsport.co.uk/Prod...uspension.html
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well the LIC ones are like $8000 so...
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I thought LIC used MSI
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This thread is bizarre. Clearly you have an engineer's concept of job cost analysis. Making parts on someone else's equipment will never be your own venture, son. If you signed the check for those Mori Seiki's, you wouldn't be offering to work for street cred and beer money.

And yet, where is a single example of your work?

At least you have a college twerp offering you free g code! Sounds like a match made in heaven.
ha ha ha ha, was thinking this from the beginning.
true that
Sounds neat, but it won't be long at all before you realize doing very difficult work on expensive equipment isn't a whole lot of fun
Machine stuff for yourself. If you offer it up to some random dude for $20 you'll be pretty frustrated when you make a mistake 90% of the way through a job and you have to start over with new material to make good on your promise.
Ever buy a solid carbide end mill?
One will cost 10x's what your asking for payment
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People do make them. Msi has a set of uprights. Most people don't really have the coin for such things though.

http://www.mooresport.com/indexe.php...preza-uprights
Like I said - I can't imagine anyone making billet uprights for less than $1000 a pop. And that was being pretty generous Uprights for 900lb formula fords and continentals are produced in far bigger numbers, with much less material and much simpler to machine - and they still cost more than that.
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