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Old 02-25-2016, 09:57 AM   #1
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I wanted to post this thread so you guys could see some of the things that roll through TSM on a daily/weekly basis. Obviously we can’t post a thread about every single tune that comes through, but I can throw up before and after graphs as well as some dyno pics in this thread so everyone can keep abreast of our day to day in and out style tunes. Thats right…I said abreast, deal with it LOL

I also though it would give you guys a chance to see a little more completely what all we do here as well as maybe give the community some ideas for their cars. Not only that, but maybe it will spur some conversation that may help you guys with your modding path. Plus lets face it... it's advertising as well

So if you are interested in seeing some more day to day stuff that rolls on and off the TSM dyno then check back... basically, if we see it and it looks cool I'm gonna post it. Know that the pictures may be cell phone pics unedited because we don't take full media pictures on a daily basis, but I'm sure you guys will forgive me. I will do my best to keep this updated as often as possible, and please feel free to ask any questions you have as well!


Hope you guys enjoy! Thanks as always for the support! I will start posting updates ASAP.

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Old 02-25-2016, 10:05 AM   #2
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Here is an STi we recently had on the dyno. This long time TopSpeed customer brought his car in for a brand new Killer B equal length header and a retune to go along with it.

The setup consists of the following:

TSM SS1 shortblock
S1 cams with valve springs & retainers
Dom 1.5 10cm turbo
Killer B EL header + 3" turboback exhaust
ETS TMIC
TSM 1150cc Injectors w/walbro 485 pump
E85

24.5 psi tapering to 23 by redline.
461whp/453wtq

The S1 cams coupled with the 10cm housing and Killer B header make for a powerband that carries hard all the way to the 7400 rpm rev limiter! The slightly later spool of the larger housing and cams is a very small price to pay for the way this car pulls through the whole rpm range. This car is a riot on the street



3rd gear dyno pull

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Old 02-25-2016, 10:56 AM   #3
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:01 AM   #4
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This 2016 STi made the trip from Florida to have have us install some go fast goods and top it off with a tune using the V3 AccessPort. It came in all stock and left with some new found power

The car got the following:

Cobb intake
3" downpipe
ID1000cc injectors + Walbro 485 pump

302whp/347wtq on our AWD Dynojet on 93 octane pump gas.

Picture as I was pulling it off the dyno



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Old 02-26-2016, 10:03 AM   #5
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I would like to know more about that Evo in the air.
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:31 AM   #6
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I would like to know more about that Evo in the air.
I don't have much info on it, unfortunately :/
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:36 AM   #7
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This 2010 WRX was a long time Subaru owner's first turbo'd Subaru! He bought it with a few parts on it, and brought it in for us to verify the health of the car and to assess the modifications that were previously done to it. After a healthy compression test and the install of a 3 port boost control solenoid we got him hooked up with a new Cobb V3 AccessPort and put it on the dyno for a tune that should bring him enjoyment for years to come

Modifications:

3" turboback exhaust
Process West top mount intercooler
DW 1000cc injectors + walbro 255 pump
3 port EBCS

Final numbers were 281whp/334wtq on 93 octane pump gas. 18 psi tapering down towards redline.



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Old 03-01-2016, 02:12 PM   #8
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Good numbers.
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:38 AM   #9
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Just in case anyone missed this in its own thread.

This 2011 STi is FLEXING! Flex fuel, that is. (Ok maybe flexing its muscles a bit too )

This is a build we recently finished up that came back for final tuning after break-in. With the efficiently flowing setup on this car I knew it was going to make some good power, but was surprised as it kept making power much past what I expected!

The customer showed up in the morning and we got to work installing the Cobb flex fuel components as well as giving the car an oil change and performing a post break-in check up before strapping it to the dyno for final tuning.

The build consists of:

Outfront Motorsports V3 closed deck short block
Stock heads/stock cams
Dom 1.5 XTR 10cm
Perrin FMIC
Invidia EL header to 3" turboback
KSTech 83mm intake
TGV deletes
Injector Dynamics 1300cc injectors + Walbro 450 pump
Cobb Tuning flex fuel kit
Tuned on Cobb AccessPort V3

93 octane 21 psi: 395whp/390wtq

E85 27.5 psi peak, tapering to 26 by redline: 504whp/522wtq

The best part about it was how well it held power up top for being on stock cams, which made it pull very smooth and hard on the street!

Just out of my own personal curiosity and to confirm accuracy, the very next day I put a 100% stock 2015 STi on the dyno and did the same 3rd gear pull and it laid down 246whp/253wtq, which is right in line with other 2015/2016's we've dyno'd stock on our Dynojet.

Here are the graphs. Both 3rd gear pulls.

E85



E85 and 93





Congrats to our customer Mike on building an extremely efficient streetable setup!
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:12 PM   #10
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I Really Like That Long Linear Power Band On That Last Car. Very Nice
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:08 PM   #11
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I Really Like That Long Linear Power Band On That Last Car. Very Nice
It made for a strong car on the street! Pulled nicely all the way to redline.
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:38 PM   #12
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We recently tuned this local 2015 STi with basic bolt ons.

Intake
3" Turboback exhaust
Tuned on Cobb V3 AP

93 pump gas - 20 psi peak: 304whp/361wtq



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Old 03-07-2016, 10:35 AM   #13
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This 2006 STi made the trip up from Florida for a tune after the owner installed all of his parts and got the car running to make sure everything was mechanically solid. He trailered it up and we got it on the dyno and made some pulls on 93 before switching to E85.

The setup consisted of:

100% stock engine
Dom 1.5 10cm
TSM 1150cc injectors + 485 pump
Catted 3" downpipe to 3" catback
3 port EBCS
Stock airbox + stock TMIC

First, on 93 we kept it conservative and at 19-20 lbs we stopped around 340whp and similar torque.

The car will see mostly E85, and with the added safety margin on this fuel we had a goal of 400whp in mind, without having to push the car to get there. 22 psi got us where we wanted to be after some fine tuning and we ended at 404whp/413wtq

This car spooled a little bit later than most Dom 1.5 10cm cars we see, but the factory airbox and the catted downpipe will have something to do with that. Having it come on a little later and smoother will help keep the stock engine happy though.





We also made a conservative E85 road race map on 21 lbs that made ~380/380 since this car will get some track time in the Florida heat!

The owner of the car sent me a video of the 404whp dyno pull, but I am having troubles uploading it, so maybe he will chime in and post it!

Congrats Cory, on putting together a nice setup!
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:26 AM   #14
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Very nice! Random question... Obviously the 1.5xtr is a great option time and time again. Where do you guys normally see the 2.5xtr that has a larger 60mm turbine wheel starting to become more efficient? If at all???
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Old 03-07-2016, 06:24 PM   #15
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Very nice! Random question... Obviously the 1.5xtr is a great option time and time again. Where do you guys normally see the 2.5xtr that has a larger 60mm turbine wheel starting to become more efficient? If at all???
Honestly we don't use the 2.5xtr really at all. And the reason being is that on E85 with a free flowing exhaust and a well flowing intake/intercooler setup the 1.5xtr is pretty easily good for 450whp or so, which is generally about as far as we safely like to push our TSM SS1 shortblock. We like to stay on the safe side for longevity sake. Those customers who do a closed deck setup will usually go with a rotated setup to get the most of the engine they had built.
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Taylor and Mike at TSM were very professional and responsive to all of my questions on this journey for 400whp. Thank you to everyone at TSM especially Taylor and Mike for all the guidance and tuning. Highly recommend these guys for your Tuning and Parts needs!
Link for Video of 2006 STi on TSM Dyno 404HP Pull

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Old 03-10-2016, 10:52 AM   #17
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It was a pleasure meeting you and tuning your car, Cory! Thanks for bringing it up to us. You put together a nice setup!
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:54 AM   #18
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This one isn't a Subaru, but I don't think you guys will mind Had the pleasure of tuning this beautiful 1997 Supra recently! We performed some upgrades along with a new turbo setup and AEM Infinity ECU, and then I got to work making a couple maps for it on the dyno.

The main modifications on the car:

Sound Performance Pte6466BB single turbo kit
Injector Dynamics 1000cc's
AEM Infinity standalone ECU
100% Stock Engine

First I built a daily driven tune on 93 pump gas. On 22 psi I left it at 572whp/503wtq.

Next I ran the tank pretty low and filled 5 gallons of VP C16 into the tank. I did the procedure this way (without draining the tank completely) to replicate real conditions where the customer will most likely show up to the track on low fuel and then add C16 to the additional small amount of 93 left in the tank. I then continued calibrating it on 27 psi, and stopped at 679whp/631wtq.

4th gear pulls:







This car is beautiful and a blast to drive! I have always had a soft spot for these cars

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Old 03-29-2016, 04:52 PM   #19
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We recently had a customer return for a retune with a new turbo on his 2014 WRX. We built this car a while back and he just ran the stock turbo for a while, but was ready for more!

The setup consists of:

TSM SS1 short block
HTA71 stock location journal bearing turbo
3" catless downpipe
Intake
Process West TMIC
3 port EBCS
Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors + DW65c pump
Stock catback mid section with aftermarket axleback + mufflers

93 Octane, 21.5 psi falling to 20.5: 387whp/387wtq

I was pleased considering this turbo costs around $800 brand new, and if the customer decides to have us make an E85 map it should easily reach 450whp. It feels great on the street paired with the WRX gearing. The power comes up pretty quick and holds strong to redline.



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Looks like a sleeper>
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:31 AM   #21
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We just had a 2015 STi come back in to get tuned on its new Dom 1.5. This was a full bolt ons car that was on stock turbo until recently. It picked up a TON of power from just the turbo swap, and I built in a lot of safety features into the map to keep this 380whp pump gas stock engine car running as reliably as possible

Perrin Intake
Process West TMIC
UEL header to 3" TBE
3 port EBCS
Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors
AEM 320 E85 drop in pump

93 octane pump gas
19.5 psi peak boost.

This car came into boost so quickly, so I managed the "hit" down low to a flat tq curve to keep the shock out of the engine to not stress the stock engine in the low rpms.



I also overlaid the graph with the graph of the same car on the stock turbo. The spool difference is almost nonexistent! Pay close attention to the power curves, as this is often overlooked. So many people look at a dyno graph and only look at the peak numbers, which we all know on subarus especially the tq curve on a stock turbo is pretty peaky and falls off hard by redline.

Like I said I managed this car so it only makes 20 more wtq PEAK over the stock turbo, but by 5,000 rpms the stock turbo is falling off so hard that the Dom 1.5 makes 60wtq more and by 6,000 rpms its making 80wtq more. Not to mention by redline the Dom 1.5 is making over 100whp more! This car makes use of the whole rpm range, with much more usable power than the stock turbo!



I apologize if this got a bit long winded. I just wanted to share a little bit of what I take into consideration when tuning each vehicle and how I do my best to tailor each calibration specifically for what each car is used for, and what the customer wants out of it inside its capable boundaries

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Old 04-12-2016, 03:41 PM   #23
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We got our technician Justin's (wEaK Squad) STi on the dyno last night! Pushed it a little bit and then picked back up this morning. We are running out of wastegate spring pressure so we left it hitting 48 lbs and falling to 46 lbs by peak power. We will eventually get some more spring pressure in there and report back

The goodies:
Outfront Motorsports closed deck V4 shortblock
Manley platinum series pistons w/large wrist pin
Manley Turbo Tuff w/ARP 625 rod bolts
2015 STi crank
ARP case bolts
Head Games ported heads
Kelford D 280 cams
Tomei exhaust cam gears
GSC valves
Ferrea drag spec springs/retainers
Intake AVCS only
ARP 1/2" head studs
JE ProSeal gaskets
Forced Performance Super 99
Killer B EL header
TSM forward facing uppipe
ETS 4" FMIC
TSM 3" intercooler piping
Process West intake manifold
Boomba 75mm throttle body
TSM TGV deletes
Injector Dynamics 2000cc injectors
Fore Innovations fuel pressure regulator
TSM fuel rails
3-Walbro 485 high pressure fuel pump setup
Radium triple surge tank
Driveshaft Shop carbon driveshaft and level 5 axles
Andrewtech assembled PPG billet shift forks, selectors, fingers, and carbon synchros
TSM catch can
TSM electric power steering pump
TSM rear diff catch can
Aluminati billet trans mount & pitch stop mount
MSI billet engine mounts
Killer B oil pan, pickup, & windage tray
Competition twin disk clutch
TSM 4" "shawty" exhaust
Cobb Tuning AccessPort V3

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E85 from the pump - 48 psi peak tapering to 46 psi: 901whp/693wtq







We plan to start hitting the track soon, so we will keep everyone updated! Thanks for the support!
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Old 04-12-2016, 03:54 PM   #24
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Where do you have the wideband mounted? I don't see it in the photos.

Still no boost sensor hooked up? That would be nice to see (on all the plots).
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Old 04-12-2016, 04:02 PM   #25
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Where do you have the wideband mounted? I don't see it in the photos.

Still no boost sensor hooked up? That would be nice to see (on all the plots).
Ben, the dyno wideband is in a bung in the short exhaust right before the fender exit. And we were not running a pressure sensor to the dyno software.
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