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Old 11-12-2010, 12:29 AM   #1
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Default Instruct Me, Oh Great Knowers of Subaru FUNCTIONAL Wheel Fitment!

Ok, so I am sick and tired of trying to pick through threads of meaningless BS about "flushness" and "poke" and "stretch" and all that other crap. I am looking into a wheel and tire package for my car, so that I can save up for it over the winter.

Now, I would like to stay with a 17" wheel. The car is currently dropped on ****ty Tein S Techs, but that will be changing next spring too. I plan on going to a nice set of coilovers, sways, lats, etc. What do you guys recommend for a width and offset? I would also like some advice on what size tire/brand/model/etc you guys would also run with that particular setup.

I dont so much mind rolling my fenders if need be, but I DO NOT want a pull or anything like that.

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17x8 +45-48

235/45/17 - 245/40/17
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Thank you. I was kind of thinking around those lines after finding something about offset in one of the FAQ threads, but I wasnt sure if it was 100% right because then I had read something about a 38 offset too.

I am off to search for pics of above setup lol.
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38 will kill your wheel bearings. Bought an 05 RS with 38 rims and the wheel bearings went out right before 60,000, luckily it still had warranty
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17x8.5 +40 ish would be a great, easy fitment with just a roll in the back. A 245/40-17 fits much nicer on a 8.5" wheel compared to a 8.0".
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17x8.5 +40 ish would be a great, easy fitment with just a roll in the back. A 245/40-17 fits much nicer on a 8.5" wheel compared to a 8.0".
^ very true however i dont know if its just me but i can not find a 17x8.5in wide wheel with a reasonable offset at a decent price aka rota doesnt make any from what i can see.

But for the OP, assuming you have a sedan, you may want to check out a 17x9 with like a 42 offset(a little more work will be needed if you have a wagon). Now for a dd there is no reason in the world to go over a 245 tire. But if you want to get the most amount of grip under your car you can with out some dumb looking fitment and without pulling your fender to hell and back, a 17x9 with a 42ish offset seems to be the way to go.
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It is a sedan. I will look into the 17x9's. The car is mostly a street car, but if everything goes right it will be seeing some pretty heavy autocross and road course duty this coming summer. Its not a DD persay(we have 2 other cars that get driven in the summer too), but it does get driven. I dont mind doing work to stuff a huge tire under it. My biggest issue was picking through these threads where guys are trying to stretch a 215 onto a wheel four inches wider than the tire itself. That **** aint me. Yes, I would like to have the wheel somewhat flush to the fenders, BUT, I dont want to have to hack up my car and run stupid, usless camber just to make it work. I DRIVE my car. I think the 245 would be perfectly fine for me. With a 9 inch wheel, is a 245/40 going to stretch a ton? Does anyone have any pics?

Thanks for all your help guys
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It is a sedan. I will look into the 17x9's. The car is mostly a street car, but if everything goes right it will be seeing some pretty heavy autocross and road course duty this coming summer. Its not a DD persay(we have 2 other cars that get driven in the summer too), but it does get driven. I dont mind doing work to stuff a huge tire under it. My biggest issue was picking through these threads where guys are trying to stretch a 215 onto a wheel four inches wider than the tire itself. That **** aint me. Yes, I would like to have the wheel somewhat flush to the fenders, BUT, I dont want to have to hack up my car and run stupid, usless camber just to make it work. I DRIVE my car. I think the 245 would be perfectly fine for me. With a 9 inch wheel, is a 245/40 going to stretch a ton? Does anyone have any pics?

Thanks for all your help guys
i dont have pics but it depends on exactly what tires they are some of the wider tires like starspecs will have a slight stretch to them, my gforces would probably have a slight stretch on a 9" wide wheel. however my cousin put the stock 245s from his 08 sti on his 18x9 advans and there was a decent amount of stretch, a 255 tire would be preferable on a 9"wide rim in most cases.
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imo 17x9 is the only way to go, i love running a 255/40 series tire, with your car optimum offset would be between +40 and +48, this would require the rear fenders to be rolled but no pulling, im sorry you have s-techs, best of luck
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38 will kill your wheel bearings.


MANY people have gone with far lower offsets on the 5x100 hubs for years with no wheel bearing issues to report...
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Old 11-12-2010, 07:25 PM   #11
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imo 17x9 is the only way to go, i love running a 255/40 series tire, with your car optimum offset would be between +40 and +48, this would require the rear fenders to be rolled but no pulling, im sorry you have s-techs, best of luck

Thanks for the advice. I am really thinking that a 245 or 255 would be best for me.

As for the S Techs, I know they suck. They were on the car when I bought it and I seriously LOL'd when I peeked in the wheelwell to see what it is dropped on. They just need to make it through until spring though. Coilovers will be going on then. I can deal with them until then.
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Running the Rota DPT 17x9 +42 offset. Great wheel...I have no need for anything else. I ran 245x40 Star Specs (wide tires) with only a fender roll, and I am now running 255x40 Hankook RS3. Granted my fenders are now pulled pretty hard for a set of 17x9 +28 Rota P45s with Toyo RE1-R that a friend loaned me when I could not afford tires.

These wheels fit great, support the ideal size tires for a Subie (in my opinion), and they are dual drilled. They also looks pretty good and come in a variety of colors.

I am not a representative of Rota BTW
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:47 PM   #13
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Oh, I am not anti Rota in any way. I have actually been looking at a few sets of them. Sad thing is, the ones I really wanted only come in 15s and 16s.
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As others have said:

17x8 +45-48 with a 235/40 tire (gearing advantage, what I'm running)
17x8.5 +40-46 with a 245/40 tire
17x9 +40-44 with a 255/40 tire (fits well into the STU autocross class if that's a consideration)
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Mr. Sociable, those offsets make zero sense.
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Ok, so I am sick and tired of trying to pick through threads of meaningless BS about "flushness" and "poke" and "stretch" and all that other crap. I am looking into a wheel and tire package for my car, so that I can save up for it over the winter.

Now, I would like to stay with a 17" wheel. The car is currently dropped on ****ty Tein S Techs, but that will be changing next spring too. I plan on going to a nice set of coilovers, sways, lats, etc. What do you guys recommend for a width and offset? I would also like some advice on what size tire/brand/model/etc you guys would also run with that particular setup.

I dont so much mind rolling my fenders if need be, but I DO NOT want a pull or anything like that.

Thanks in advance,
-Todd
there are, really, only a few wheels that 'fit' these cars properly

if it were me....enkei rpf1 or the new pf01 in 17x8 +45 with a 235/40 or a 225/45

if I had the $$$ there are a couple 17x8.5 wheels that arent too heavy(buddy club forged $$$) that I would do with a 245/40
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Mr. Sociable, those offsets make zero sense.
actually...they make pretty good sense

I know of many that use 17x9 with +40 or +42 that work just great and MANY-MANY 17x8 with a +44 or +45


just because you have a micrometer welded to your brain does not mean that we all do
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Im interested in this thread as well.
Kinda going down the same path of upgrading to 17" tire and wheel.

So if I am correct, the thread has come down to three options.

17x8
17x8.5
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17x9

For daily driving with an occasional event here and there, would I be correct in thinking I should purchase a 17x8.5 with +44 offset and 245/40/17 tires?

No problem with rolling fenders if needed.
Im sick of seeing my car from behind and noticing the thin looking tires. :P
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:52 AM   #19
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Im sick of seeing my car from behind and noticing the thin looking tires. :P
This is me to the T. I HATE the stock wheel fitment. My mudflaps completely eclipse the stock wheel/tire setup lol.

I have been looking at countless pictures(with direction from this thread), and had a lengthy discussion with two friends that have aftermarket wheels on their car. I will say its been helping a lot. I think the biggest thing I need to figure out now is how low I want my car to be.

For instance, my friend Nick has a set of Dr31s on his car. They are 17x8 on a 38 offset. He is on a 235/45(I think) and dropped on JDM pinks. Looking at this car today, I cannot see any way that I could fit a wider than that on mine. I understand that the higher the offset, the futher the wheel moves in twards the center of the car. What gets me hung up is, how far in do I need to move it to fit the tire that I would like to see on the car?

You guys have been great help thus far. I reallly appreciate it. This thread has gotten me eons past where I was before. I hope that folks keep commenting so that I and others like me can learn from this. I just dont want to make a $1500+ mistake.
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i think too many kiddieos think too much about how things look rather than how things function

the heart of all rice starts this way......
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To me there is a balance of function and form. I am trying to find the balance between the two in this. I want my car to look good, and still be able to get down when need be.Thats why I posted this thread.....This **** with crazy stretched tires is just rediculous to me. I want to be able to DRIVE my car and not worry about potholes, pulling a tire off the wheel when cornering, etc.
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i think too many kiddieos think too much about how things look rather than how things function

the heart of all rice starts this way......
go crawl back under your rock d bag. This is not a herrafrush thread.

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To me there is a balance of function and form. I am trying to find the balance between the two in this. I want my car to look good, and still be able to get down when need be.Thats why I posted this thread.....This **** with crazy stretched tires is just rediculous to me. I want to be able to DRIVE my car and not worry about potholes, pulling a tire off the wheel when cornering, etc.
Well said. Unfortunately some morons cannot understand that a car can look good AND function at the same time
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go crawl back under your rock d bag. This is not a herrafrush thread.



Well said. Unfortunately some morons cannot understand that a car can look good AND function at the same time
blow me, handjob


this has nothing to do with 'herrafrush'

it DOES have to do with the younger set thinking way too hard about 'looks' thinking that it is WAY too important....when it isnt

most of 'looks' is parts sellers wanting to take YOUR $$$$ outa YOUR pocket and put it in THEIR pocket

and making YOU think YOU arent k00 is YOU dont spend YOUR $$$ on looking k00....to make THEM rich

now....in the end, there Mr. handjob......piss off
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Hey! No arguing in my thread lol....
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Haha sorry...any opportunity to get that D bag pissed off is an opportunity I cannot pass up

It seems that you have the right idea. PM me if you want some pics of various wheel setups I have run. I have gone from the 17x7 2006 WRX stockers, 17x8 +48 Rotas and Kosei,, and now I am running the 17x9 +42 DPTs. The 17x9 fit great, I can fit much more rubber on them, and they look awesome. Just keep in mind bigger tires cost a bit more $$
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