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Old 11-01-2010, 10:56 AM   #1
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Hey guys. I'd appreciate a little feedback. I'm an avid car geek with very little racing experience. I did a little "back yard" go cart stuff, and a little dirt bike racing (both didn't have any classes or regulations), but as far as auto racing, I'm a noob. I'm not really interested (yet) in ranking/points and such...I just want to take my wrx onto a track and have some fun with people who share the same passion. Here are the specs on my car:
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wheels: either 17x7.5 (225x45) or 17x8 (235x40)
suspension: Tokico D-specs with RCE Yellow springs, 22mm adjustable sways with endlinks front and rear
brakes: stainless lines, Hawk HP pads, H6 rear upgrade
exhaust: equal lenght header, catted UP, catted DP, all 3" (correct me if I'm wrong, but I would have to add a cat somewhere to enter)
intake: CAI (not by choice) at least it's the right size
engine: stock with lightweight flywheel
tune: cobb accessport tuned at Agile automotive

I have a lot of reading/researching, but wanted to say hi and see if I can get a little advice/guidence/point in the right direction.

Here is my dyno graph. Two maps were made. One at 13psi and another at 17psi:
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:41 AM   #2
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Sounds like a HPDE (High Performance Driving Experience/Education) is in order.

There are quite a few organizations that setup trackdays where you get classroom and ontrack instruction. You can work your way up to solo driving (no instructor) or take it further with time trialing and up to wheel to wheel racing.

NASA has a very good track experience program, as well as other independent companies.

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Old 11-01-2010, 11:54 AM   #3
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Yeah, I'd check with NASA (HPDE) and SCCA (PDX program). Not sure where in PA you are located, but since you listed your chapter as MAIC, I'd say you should be looking either at Beaver Run schedules (near Pittsburgh) and/or Summit Point (near Charles Town, WV).
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:38 PM   #4
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I would say start at your local autocrosses before you pay good money for a track day.
A) they're much cheaper. MSCC is $30 per event (4 runs + fun runs at the end) vs. ~$250 for a HPDE track day (NASA price for Sebring).

B) At least for MSCC, they have driving instructors that will side seat with you for no additional charge.

IMO, I'd rather get some basic car racing skills at a few autocrosses first, rather than go into an expensive HPDE event with no experience. I've done 2 autocrosses now, and I can safely say I was a much better driver at the 2nd autocross than the first, and I haven't taken advantage of the instructors yet. I wanted to acquire my own feel for the car first.
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:01 PM   #5
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Still a couple spots open for this weekend...

http://www.nasaracing.net/Summit_Nov_10/event.htm
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:56 PM   #6
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You're 2 and a half hours from Pocono, NJMP, and Summit Point to get on track. I've done Pocono and NJMP with PDA Driving School/NASA NE and had great instructors and lots of track time. For autocross, check out Susquehanna Region SCCA. They run in Hershey, Lancaster, and Harrisburg. It's late in the season, so you may have to wait until the end of March unless anything's going on in November It's worth it though!

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Old 11-02-2010, 09:53 AM   #7
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I'd suggest hitting one autocross, so that you can put your car to the limit at low speeds in an open lot first.

Then, you should do an HPDE, so you can get a completely different driving experience, as well as way more seat time for your money (conservatively, an hour of actual driving time versus maybe ten minutes).

If the cost of an HPDE is still a deterrent, NASA has something they call hyperdrives, where you get one classroom session, and one session on track with an instructor for $50. There is no passing at all, but it's a cheaper way to get out there and try it. Plus, once you are there and signed in, there are many instructors willing to give rides to students...the speed differential between the instructor group and the rookie group is pretty astounding.

After that, decide which you find more fun and roll with it, or continue doing both. Personally, I got very weary of standing around and chasing cones in a parking lot for most of the day, so that I can get a few very short runs in. Don't get me wrong, autocrossing is amazingly fun, but I find driving on track to be a lot more fun.
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:16 AM   #8
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For autocross, check out Susquehanna Region SCCA.
Here is their home page: http://www.scca-susq.com/
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:52 AM   #9
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Many thanks to everyone. This has given me what I was looking for. Like I said, I still have a lot of reading/researching to do. First thing I need to do is figure out what class I'd be in, and then find a class associated with it. I do know that I would like some personal instruction the first couple of times out...finding the right lines, where to brake (or not to). The dirt racing I did, you kind of followed the ruts in the ground. I have a few more things to fix on the car before I'd feel comfortable with tracking it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:57 AM   #10
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Your mods would put you in STX if you ran an STX-specific ECU map. I.E. no additional boost over stock. You could run Cobb's STX specific map that's been made, but with as many things as you have done, I'd have Agile make you an STX specific map if you plan on being serious about AutoXing your car.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:51 PM   #11
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For autocross, check out Susquehanna Region SCCA. They run in Hershey, Lancaster, and Harrisburg. It's late in the season, so you may have to wait until the end of March unless anything's going on in November It's worth it though!

Tom
We're all done with the season
Definitely come out next year though, we always like to see more subies! I run ESP class in my bugeye, and we have quite a few STX wrxs, including a few national competitors who are fantastic drivers you could learn from!
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