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Old 11-15-2010, 10:16 AM   #1
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Default Formula One 2011 Thread, KERSy with a hint of Flappy Back Wing

A la Stu, first announced driver change of 2011.

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By Steven English Monday, November 15th 2010, 09:57 GMT

Nico Hulkenberg will not race for Williams in Formula 1 next season.

The 23-year-old German, who clinched his maiden pole position in Brazil a week ago - the team's first in five years, announced this morning that he will leave the team.

"I heavily regret that," Hulkenberg said in a statement. "I would have been happy to stay with Williams.

"I want to thank the team for a great time and I wish Williams all the best for the future."

Hulkenberg's manager, Willi Weber, says he is in discussions with other F1 teams and is sure that Hulkenberg will have a drive next season.

"I am negotiating with other teams," Weber said. "Nico will have his seat in F1 in 2011."

But Hulkenberg's options appear to be limited - with Vitaly Petrov set to renew his deal with Renault, Force India and Lotus could be his only possible destinations. The other option is to spend a year as a reserve driver with another team before stepping up to a race seat in 2012.

AUTOSPORT understands Williams was looking to sign Hulkenberg to a multi-year deal that would have placed him with the HRT team for the 2011 season, which the German declined.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:37 AM   #2
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Thank you for being more creative than me
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There aren't too many 'other teams' with open seats. Hulk should have settled for a year at HRT if it guaranteed him getting back into a Williams in 2012.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:21 AM   #4
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No guarantees with Williams, he had a contract with Williams from 2000 (at least) to 2005 yet only drove for Williams in one of those years.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:46 AM   #5
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Nico Rosberg's new passport photo, http://plixi.com/p/57112914. Apparently he got stopped by the police on his way to the party after the race too.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:35 PM   #6
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http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...g-the-line-up/

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Abu Dhabi Young Driver testing: The line-up
15 November 2010


Just two days after the 2010 season reached its nail-biting climax in Abu Dhabi, the teams will be back out on-track for the annual Young Driver test session. Set to be staged at Yas Marina for the first time, a total of 21 men will be taking to the tarmac over the course of Tuesday and Wednesday.

The Abu Dhabi Young Driver line-up is as follows:

Red Bull-Renault
Tuesday: Daniel Ricciardo, 21 (AUS)
Wednesday: Daniel Ricciardo, 21 (AUS)

McLaren-Mercedes

Tuesday: Oliver Turvey, 23 (GBR)
Wednesday: Gary Paffett, 29 (GBR)

Ferrari
Tuesday: Jules Bianchi, 21 (FRA)
Wednesday: Jules Bianchi, 21 (FRA)

Mercedes GP
Tuesday: Sam Bird, 23 (GBR)
Wednesday: Sam Bird, 23 (GBR)

Renault
Tuesday: Mikhail Aleshin, 23 (RUS)
Wednesday: Jérôme d’Ambrosio, 24 (BEL)

Williams-Cosworth

Tuesday: Dean Stoneman, 20 (GBR)
Wednesday: Pastor Maldonado, 25 (VEN)

Force India-Mercedes
Paul di Resta, 24 (GBR)
Yelmer Buurman, 23 (NED)
Antonio Félix da Costa, 19 (POR)

Sauber-Ferrari
Sergio Pérez, 20 (MEX)
Esteban Gutiérrez, 19 (MEX)

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Tuesday: Jean-Eric Vergne, 20 (FRA)
Wednesday: Jean-Eric Vergne, 20 (FRA)

Lotus-Cosworth
Tuesday: Rodolfo González, 24 (VEN)
Wednesday: Vladimir Arabadzhiev, 30 (BUL)

Virgin-Cosworth

Tuesday morning: Rio Haryanto, 17 (INA)
Tuesday afternoon: Jérôme d’Ambrosio, 24 (BEL)
Wednesday: Luiz Razia, 21 (BRA)

Hispania-Cosworth

Tuesday: Pastor Maldonado, 25 (VEN)
Wednesday: Josef Král (CZE), Davide Valsecchi, 23 (ITA)
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Yay, according to McLaren I'm young!
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man a 17 year old in an F1 car?
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:43 PM   #9
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man a 17 year old in an F1 car?
Its happened more than a few times in the past.
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So what are all the big changes for next year?. I listed the one below that I can think of but sure I'm missing some.

- KERS is back
- Movable rear wing element
- No double Diffusers (pretty sure they are gone)
- Pirelli as tire supplier
- India to host a race
- F-Duct? (is still going to be in or not)

Edit: Like the comment by Rubens in Abu Dhabi where he said there are going to be way too many buttons to push next year. With two movable wing elements and KERS, plus all the current knobs and dials. Also if the f-duct is still around it is going to be super busy.

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F-duct is gone if I remember correctly.
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I'm fairly sure Haryanto isn't 17. Even so, both Alex Rossi and Esteban Gutierrez tested for Sauber last year.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:40 PM   #13
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just posting to subscribe...I'm not thinking about 2011 until I see a new car roll out.

In the meantime I'll just post up my recommendations for what to read over the winter from my bookshelf.











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Old 11-15-2010, 08:51 PM   #14
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yes, I am that bored right now

Matchett's book might prove an interesting reread..when Red Bull came into the sport it felt like they had read Chariot Makers and decided to follow Steve's 'plan' on how to create a Formula One team step by step.

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Ferg, I like the cut of your jib my good man.
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and because I'm that annoying...can't leave out the Autocours Annuals ...











one day I'll have them all the way back to 1951.....one day.

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and I'm waiting for the 2010 edition to publish...funny they put out a temporary cover back in the summer for websites to advertise for pre-orders. Always cracks me up as each year they never seem to be able to predict the actual Champion.


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I'm fairly sure Haryanto isn't 17. Even so, both Alex Rossi and Esteban Gutierrez tested for Sauber last year.
Haryanto IS 17! I am really wondering where Hulkenberg will go, as he did quite well for himself, even managing that ridiculous pole position in Sao Paolo last weekend, which was pretty much a lottery anyway.

What's even better is the drama with Italian Politicians calling for Luca De Montezemalo (sp) to step down from Ferrari because of one poor pitstop call. Sure it may have cost Fernando the world championship, but REALLY? Politicians?
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Out for 2011 are the f-ducts (blown rear wing), and the double diffuser. Back is the KERS system and active rear wing elements.

Active rear wings will not affect the cars in the same way the f-duct has but will serve a similar purpose.
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I just wanted to say that I hate KERS. Even though I am a Mclaren fan and their system was fantastic, its far too complicated and is even more distracting for the drivers. I would love to see a push-to-pass system (I think this was discussed during FP for Abu Dhabi on 5 live F1) sort of like in indy cars, which would show a counter for the number of uses remaining etc. Would make charges after a bad pit stop almost theatrically entertaining.

KERS will also set back (even further) the newer, poorer teams. Is there a change with qualifying now as well, where you have to be within 107% of the pole position time in order to actually participate in the race? If so, bai bai HRT!
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KERS is not more distracting to the driver than the F-duct that requires letting go of the steering wheel.
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KERS is not more distracting to the driver than the F-duct that requires letting go of the steering wheel.
Its the managing of the energy of KERS which is an issue I think, the F duct is no big deal, drivers used to drive with one hand on the steering wheel quite often, when they had manual gearboxes. The F duct makes it even easier since its only used on straights and sweeping turns.
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KERS will also set back (even further) the newer, poorer teams. Is there a change with qualifying now as well, where you have to be within 107% of the pole position time in order to actually participate in the race? If so, bai bai HRT!
only if those teams don't buy the gearbox, hydraulics, and KERS system from an established team, like Hispania has done with Williams next season.

we never saw how competitive the Williams Hybrid flywheel system would have been in 2009 since they never raced with it, but it's been further developed by Porsche in their GT program...and could prove to be a technical march over the other teams. So maybe not quite bai bai HRT...assuming they secure funding, get a chassis sorted, and make it to the first race. Getting past the 107% barrier is way down their list of hurdles right now.

The team that's got me wondering is Virgin. As yet no technical partnership like HRT and Lotus has secured and another season stuck with Xtrac's gearbox and hydraulics sidelining them half the time would prove difficult to endure...especially if it means Branson has to wear another flight attendant outfit.

Has anyone looked back over 2010 and actually applied the 107% rule to quali? It would be interesting to see just how big an impact it wold have had on the new teams.

I don't like the idea of a standardized KERS system...that feels like a publicity stunt so they can claim to be more "green" or whatever. Is KERS standardized or open for development next year? I can't recall.

Dammit..now I'm thinking about 2011 instead of watching Hoarders.
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