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Old 05-03-2015, 12:40 AM   #1
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after winder build im ready for tune and track my car but seems kind of hard to find anyone reliable or someone who will do it

thats why im looking for your help

benchmark used to tune my evo and it was amazing but guy is gone:-((
p and l and apm i will not go even if i can have it for free
6star tunes on cobb only and i got open source
AMS will tune only if they do actual work ( thats what i heard )
adam moved to new shop without dyno and he switched to SRT's lately

any ideas where i can dynotune my car and be calm that it wont blow up on track??
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:47 PM   #3
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So you cut out P&L even though their tuner is prob leaps and bounds better then anyone else local to you. You will only run open source which means your being cheap. Of course no one wants to tune a open source 08+ car lol.

P&Ls tuner is good at what he does, other wise your stuck doing a e-tune but i am not sure if anyone will touch a GR on opensource anymore.
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:52 PM   #4
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whats wrong with opensource 08+??
i had it done before and everything was perfect
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Old 05-03-2015, 06:15 PM   #5
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Alot of tuners wont because there are some things that you can tweak in the racetuner software that you cannot in opensource from what i was told.

Plus i have been told its overall more annoying to tune with.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:38 AM   #6
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The live tuning feature and map tracing makes Cobb worlds better than Open Source. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&postcount=32
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Old 05-04-2015, 06:53 PM   #7
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You could try Turn In Concepts in Cincinnati.
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:39 PM   #8
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I agree P&L is a joke and could care less if you have a reliable tune, but why not APM?

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You could try Turn In Concepts in Cincinnati.
What I was going to suggest--a little drive but better bet than P&L
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:50 PM   #9
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Apm does open source. Thats where im going
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Old 05-08-2015, 07:46 AM   #10
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Apm does open source. Thats where im going

They should charge you double.
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:28 AM   #11
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I agree P&L is a joke and could care less if you have a reliable tune, but why not APM?







What I was going to suggest--a little drive but better bet than P&L

Who in their right mind would take a Dom tune over a jr tune lmao.



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Old 05-08-2015, 11:43 AM   #12
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300 with a boost leak/pdi
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:46 PM   #13
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Who in their right mind would take a Dom tune over a jr tune lmao.
Somebody that had their brand new car blow up immediately after Jr "tuned" it.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:48 PM   #14
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Somebody that had their brand new car blow up immediately after Jr "tuned" it.

Pure bad luck junior is by far the most experienced tuner for Subarus that I can think of. If someone tells you they haven't blown up a car before then they are lieing.

I wouldn't let Dom tune my car for free .... When has he ever tuned anything that has done anything notable for the platform. He's to busy having cam failures somehow.


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Old 05-08-2015, 04:37 PM   #15
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I agree P&L is a joke and could care less if you have a reliable tune
That couldn't be further from the truth, we treat every car as if it were our own, as most of us here have our own WRX or STI.


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Somebody that had their brand new car blow up immediately after Jr "tuned" it.
What exactly "blew up", ring land failure? If so, there's nothing any tuner could have done to save it. It is an extremely common failure and a known weak point for these engines.

Junior tunes approximately 400 cars for us every year. He also does tuning trips to a number of other well regarded shops throughout the country, so I would not be surprised if he tuned well over 1000 cars a year. You may be unhappy that your car had issues, but I can assure you if it was not due to any ignorance or incompetence on Juniors part.

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Old 05-10-2015, 03:30 PM   #16
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Ty, how much longer until the dyne is up and tunes are happening? I am itching for a tune!
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:49 PM   #17
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Ty, how much longer until the dyne is up and tunes are happening? I am itching for a tune!
Hopefully it will be operational in the next week. After that we will start going through a backlog of 60+ cars to tune.

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Old 05-15-2015, 09:30 PM   #18
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I've been having JR tune my car since he started tuning at P&L. Before that, Jorge tuned my car at P&L. I blew a ringland at the track on a stock block stock turbo Jorge tune and didn't blame the tuner. Like TY said, ringland failures are notorious on these cars. Especially if you're pushing decent power. Fueling in cylinder 4 and the cast pistons are to blame.

Is it possible there was an issue prior to the tune?
How was the car treated prior to the tune?
How long was the car driven with aftermarket parts prior to the tune?

It sucks for the owner, it really does. I've had to go through it before also, but if you do the research and know the potential issues with aftermarket modding then you really can't be surprised if something does occur.

I've been to Apm for a simple clutch install, and went back 3 times cause they didn't install it right and it leaked.
I've been to 6 star for a can seal leak and went back there twice, after they couldn't fix it right the first 2 times.

Honestly I wouldn't anywhere other than P&L. They're the only shop that has actually treated me right and fixed or replaced parts the first time, not the second or third.

Yea, they maybe a bit more expensive than other shops in the area but I'll pay the extra $ knowing with confidence they'll get it right the first time.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:33 AM   #19
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West Bend has a great tuner
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