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Old 10-28-2010, 07:29 PM   #1
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hello, i had a set of 15 mm spacers with internal studs that i put on my 04 sti bbs wheels. well it didnt work well at all because the original stud protruded out of the spacer, hitting the wheel. so the wheel didnt rest on the spacer, it was resting on the original stud. so since 15mm wont fit on a sti bbs wheel, will a 20mm spacer fit? i know 25mm spacers fit, but i was just wondering about the 20 mm. thank you.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:36 PM   #2
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okay, I'll bite.

Why?
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:33 PM   #3
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why what? i cant use the current spacers i have now so i sent them back to the friend i bought them from and he refunded me. so im looking for another set. and i just need to know if 20mm spacers will work on 04 sti bbs wheels.
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:18 PM   #4
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You are supposed to cut the studs after you install those types of spacers.

What you should do with anything less than 25mm spacer, is get slip on spacers with extended studs.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:22 AM   #5
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I'm asking why you're running such enormous spacers.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:27 AM   #6
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Why in heavens name did you think 15mm spacers was a good idea, much less 20-25mm ones? Take them off and your car will love you for it. There is no reason for you to have those.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:27 AM   #7
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i like the way it looked with the spacers on. well it looked flush with my coilover setup. i not feeling the way it looked with the finer gap. ehhh...wasnt planning on cutting the original studs. thats taking it a bit too far. i guess ima just get 25mm spacers then.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:32 AM   #8
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Spacers are not for aesthetics. That's not a excusable use for them. Ever. You realize that with spacers your car handles worse and is going to be less reliable? Going larger will only make it even worse off.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:38 AM   #9
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thats usually what people get them for. aesthetics. i already have a great suspension setup, so if my handling goes down just a tad, i think i will live. i have new hub bearings as well. i realize the risk of getting these. putting stress on a 5x100 hub probably isn't the best idea. but tell that to anyone that gets a +35 et wheel, and they will try to fight someone haha.
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thats usually what people get them for. aesthetics. i already have a great suspension setup, so if my handling goes down just a tad, i think i will live. i have new hub bearings as well. i realize the risk of getting these. putting stress on a 5x100 hub probably isn't the best idea. but tell that to anyone that gets a +35 et wheel, and they will try to fight someone haha.
Most people running +35 offset wheels are retards. Spacers are only for brake fitment and (small ones...5mm tops) for handling adjustments as far as I'm concerned. There is never an excuse to run 25mm spacers, so leave those to the VW crowd to ruin their cars with. Your wheels will stick out past the fenders. It's not only the bearings that are affected. Everything down the line from the steering rack to the hubs is under more stress. Get the wrong kind of spacers and you risk your wheels coming off on the highway. As for handling, you will suffer from more difficult steering, less tire contact patch, and less steering response. You're also limiting your tire choices.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:56 AM   #11
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i see your apart of the correct fitment crew. haha so your reasonings are justified. i guess i should maybe rethink this. all my decisions based on what i have now have been for gain alone, including my suspension, wheel selection and tire. i just have some friends at home who have spacers and their cars look nice and they are still quick in autox and even in touge. but maybe i should just sit on this for now to see. i just want to look good. lol
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:35 AM   #12
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i see your apart of the correct fitment crew. haha so your reasonings are justified. i guess i should maybe rethink this. all my decisions based on what i have now have been for gain alone, including my suspension, wheel selection and tire. i just have some friends at home who have spacers and their cars look nice and they are still quick in autox and even in touge. but maybe i should just sit on this for now to see. i just want to look good. lol
Curious...what suspension do you have?
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You're running a 7.5" wheel with a +53 offset. If you run a 25mm spacer, that reduces your offset to +28, on a 7.5" wheel. That will kill your bearings in a hurry, plus your car will handle very similar to an elephant. People that run lower offsets generally have a larger width wheel to go with that lower offset (keeping things somewhat centered). While it may look cool, you'll probably regret it in the end.

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Old 10-29-2010, 11:32 AM   #14
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Most people running +35 offset wheels are retards.
good thing i'm only running a +38
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You're running a 7.5" wheel with a +53 offset. If you run a 25mm spacer, that reduces your offset to +28, on a 7.5" wheel. That will kill your bearings in a hurry, plus your car will handle very similar to an elephant. People that run lower offsets generally have a larger width wheel to go with that lower offset (keeping things somewhat centered). While it may look cool, you'll probably regret it in the end.

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This. Most people miss this point, that narrower wheels that are spaced out put much more stress on the hubs than wider wheels due to the distribution of weight across the wheel, and the more severe angle of attack at the hub created by narrower wheels.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:28 PM   #16
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good thing i'm only running a +38
You're running 10" wheels, abiet you need more tire.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:23 PM   #17
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If you aren't racing or rallying the car the 'extra stress' won't come into effect. If you are racing or rallying the car, upgrade to beefier 5x114 STi stuff. 15mm is no big deal, if you like it, run it. 35 offset is not a big deal either, lots of people run VW offset wheels with no problems. I don't know why NASIOC is so hell-bent on keeping high offset wheels on street driven/cruising cars.

Why worry about cutting the stock studs? If you wanna go back to stock later, just buy a new set of stock studs again.
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If you aren't racing or rallying the car the 'extra stress' won't come into effect. If you are racing or rallying the car, upgrade to beefier 5x114 STi stuff. 15mm is no big deal, if you like it, run it. 35 offset is not a big deal either, lots of people run VW offset wheels with no problems. I don't know why NASIOC is so hell-bent on keeping high offset wheels on street driven/cruising cars.
You're mistaken if you think that the car needs to be tracked to experience the problems that arise.
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Curious...what suspension do you have?
im running full jic inveterd monotube 10 way adjustable coilovers, 10kg in the front and 12kg rear. 22 mm whiteline swaybar rear with adjustable endlinks, cuzco 23mm swaybar front with adjustable endlinks. beatrush motor mounts with group n transmission mount. sti lateral links and trailing arms, and a perrin cross lock subframe brace. bodyroll doesn't exist to me anymore haha. but my lowerback kills me sometimes. i think this setup is overkill, but its whatever. its fun during autox, and i like seeing the rear tire pop up during turns. it also makes going through slaloms a lot easier since its easier to control the way the car reacts to the turns.
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:11 PM   #20
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i think i started a war.
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i think i started a war.
haha best remark ever
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Not cool. You may have a point, but that aint cool.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:25 AM   #23
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Most people running +35 offset wheels are retards.


I run a 10mm hub centric spacer on my track setup to clear that bulky brembo calipers.

That being said, if I could fit my offset/style wheel without having to run a spacer, I wouldn't even consider it. I can appreciate the aggressive look but I would never, ever run a spacer for aesthetics.
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i wouldn't cut the original stock studs...
i'd get extended studs (really long ones, like 50-60 mm) and get open-ended lug nuts.
that way you can run 5 to 35 mm spacers.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:01 PM   #25
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i think im going to get some extended studs and a 17x9 +35et
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