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Old 11-23-2010, 07:07 PM   #1
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just installed them replacing dunlop winter sport 3d's on my 09 impreza 2.5 winter car. impressions? pissed! seriously, during normal driving they are fine. taking any turn past .4g's and the car rolls over 12" to the outside. my wintersports went around a corner better, rode the same and were 99% as quiet. i just screwed up. the only thing that these have an advantage with could be wear but my wintersports had 15k on them and hardly any wear with mostly summer driving.

cliff notes: i just gave up a pile of snow traction and handling for nothing!
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #2
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I was looking at these as they were ranked very high on Tire Rack.

After reading all of the reviews on NASIOC, I changed my mind.

I did read that Continental has a 30 or 60 day money back gurantee. That might be worth looking into. Good luck with that...

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Old 11-23-2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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I was looking at these as they were ranked very high on Tire Rack.

After reading all of the reviews on NASIOC, I changed my mind.

I did read that Continental has a 30 or 60 day money back gurantee. That might be worth looking into. Good luck with that...

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ill give them a little while and see if they improve with more miles, until then ill hang onto the wintersports in case they dont dramatically change. i also added 5psi to bring them to 40 and ill see what that does. for now, im going to highly recommend the wintersport 3d's. they drive like a nice performance all season but with excellent snow traction. great tire!
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:21 PM   #4
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so...you took off the winter tires with you drove on throughout the summer and replaced them with all-seasons? why didn't you just stay on the wintersports instead if they had very little wear?
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:29 PM   #5
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so...you took off the winter tires with you drove on throughout the summer and replaced them with all-seasons? why didn't you just stay on the wintersports instead if they had very little wear?
i drove my evo 90% of the time in summer and because i drive like an asshat and 95% of winter its snowless here so all seasons would be a better choice. i figured while they are in nice shape and with it being right before winter its the best time to sell instead of wearing them down and waiting until spring when there is no market.

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Old 11-26-2010, 12:57 PM   #6
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haha...sorry man.

I too have read numerous good reviews but, iirc, past models were knocked with soft sidewalls.

one of the heaviest tires in a 215-45-17 is a re960. dunno why.
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Old 11-30-2010, 09:55 PM   #7
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update: after a couple hundred more miles they are better. still not what i hoped handling wise, but acceptable as long as they do decent in the snow.
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:17 PM   #8
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run em at 40psi at least, helps with mine. But I probably wont get them again tbh.
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:22 PM   #9
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run em at 40psi at least, helps with mine. But I probably wont get them again tbh.
they are at 40psi and ride took a dump. im actually going to lower them to 37 and see how they are.
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Old 12-01-2010, 07:30 AM   #10
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just installed them replacing dunlop winter sport 3d's on my 09 impreza 2.5 winter car. impressions? pissed! seriously, during normal driving they are fine. taking any turn past .4g's and the car rolls over 12" to the outside. my wintersports went around a corner better, rode the same and were 99% as quiet. i just screwed up. the only thing that these have an advantage with could be wear but my wintersports had 15k on them and hardly any wear with mostly summer driving.

cliff notes: i just gave up a pile of snow traction and handling for nothing!

so, send them back ... they have a 60 drive and try warranty
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:53 AM   #11
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they are at 40psi and ride took a dump. im actually going to lower them to 37 and see how they are.
i dropped mine to about 37psi because of that. i'm also used to the tires being a little wobbly now. i don't have anything to compare them to because the tires i took off to put mine on were crappy and shot. but they do hold the road decently. just lost a bunch of that "my car's on rails" feel. like even the steering wheel feels sloppier.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:54 AM   #12
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I found a good balance at 36-38 psi on my wife's matrix with the DWS's

honestly I'm happy with them as a DD tire, sure the sidewall rolls when pushed, but I didn't find it that horrible, and I'm used to SP600's. But they aren't a high performance tires, their all-seasons, so far they do exactly as advertised on her car

maybe the fact that her matrix is a few hundred pounds lighter has something to do with that
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
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mine lasted 15k

not getting them again, rain traction sucks and snow traction isnt great at all. but it was fun to slide easy with them in the summer
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:16 PM   #14
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mine lasted 15k

not getting them again, rain traction sucks and snow traction isnt great at all. but it was fun to slide easy with them in the summer
i found them to be good in the rain and surprisingly good in the snow during the snowpocalypse here in the DC area on my sister's 08 obs. were they as good as the LM22s on my 04 sti? no but i was able to drive with confidence in both cars.
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Old 12-02-2010, 06:43 PM   #15
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nhat: I'm trying to decide... I don't know if the price is worth the difference for me between these and the Winter Sport 3D's...

You live close to me.. You know our weather and my car..

Advice? I have talked to Luke, LGT guy, IAG but I still don't know what to do...
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Old 12-02-2010, 06:48 PM   #16
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I don't think you can really compare a dedicated snow tire to a 4-season compromise tire. The DWS is a great all-around tire, just not 100% at everything it does.
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I don't think you can really compare a dedicated snow tire to a 4-season compromise tire. The DWS is a great all-around tire, just not 100% at everything it does.
i'd be curious to see how some of the other all season tires feel. to be honest, the only thing that blows is the sidewall flex. no complaints whatsoever otherwise. they are quiet, comfortable, great in the rain so far and waiting to see what's up when it snows.
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I don't think you can really compare a dedicated snow tire to a 4-season compromise tire. The DWS is a great all-around tire, just not 100% at everything it does.
Yeah true.. I guess for an extra $100+ I can just get the Dunlop's.. I'm looking at tires for my winter wheels. I have '04 BBS wheels & RE01 tires for summer.

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i'd be curious to see how some of the other all season tires feel. to be honest, the only thing that blows is the sidewall flex. no complaints whatsoever otherwise. they are quiet, comfortable, great in the rain so far and waiting to see what's up when it snows.
Are you saying you have the DWS?
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Are you saying you have the DWS?
yes, my apologies.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:27 PM   #20
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Just bought these tires a couple of weeks ago (225-45-17). I was happy to just have new tires on my car (WRX TR) I had the stock tires on my car for 4 years (Bridgstone potenza 215-45-17 awsome tires). When I first drove on them they made the car feel like it was sliding around turns and a bit noisy. After about 1000miles, the tires actually become more grippy to the roads and less quite. I finally got to test the tires yesterday on the high way in wet light snow. I loved it i was doing about 80 -85 and the tires felt like it was glued to the road going around long turns and straight aways. I have yet tested in heavy rain and snow, but im confident that im going to like it. They could of done better on the sidewalls but I went a lil wider on these tires and I feel I get good response with these tires. I sometime like to take to turns going faster then what im suspose to like on and off ramps and at 55mph the do alright almost the same as my old potenzas. These tires need time for them to work like there susposed to. Driving on them brand new sucks.
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did 130 the other day with a full car and felt totally unsafe. granted it was windy, the car felt like it was wobbling all over the road. not recommended for anyone haha.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:04 PM   #22
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35+ PSI and a couple thousand mile break in helped allot.

My new with crappy +- 5 psi low pressure tire shop air impression was similar. Lots of roll over at 32 ish psi. Not so much at 38. Less as the tire breaks in.

Overall I'm quite impressed at how well they currently perform dry and wet.

Abundant grip and consistent tracking after ten k plus. They get far better with age and some air.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:38 PM   #23
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I was on the fence with my DWS's. For someone who doesn't care about carving corners, they would be a good tire. However, I went from a summer tire to them and even the guy mounting the tires to the rim said he didn't think I'd like them with how soft the sidewall was. Sure enough, first hard corner I took, it held grip, but felt like I was slushing around on a tire made of jello.

I also had a vibration issue that I could never get worked out. Would vibrate lightly at around 70 mph for a few minutes after first drive of the day and then go away. After two balancings, we could only conclude the sidewalls were so soft, the car parking for a day or two would result in mild flatspotting that took a few minutes to workout. Pretty sad that something that normally takes weeks or months to any other tire could happen in just a day or two on DWS's.

I won't buy them again.

PS: Had them at 38psi
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I'm also not very excited about them. They will hold a pretty good amount of grip for an all season but the sidewall just feels like mush. They are good in the rain and treadwear should make them last a long time but they just feel awful. I bought my Sti used and they were already on the car. Needless to say I can't wait until the winter is over and I can put some summer tires on the car.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:54 PM   #25
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They are getting better but still nothing special. Maybe im just too used to my evo on swift spec r's, bilstein hd's and star specs.
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