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Old 07-02-2002, 01:30 PM   #1
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Default Edmonton Import shootout...

Anyone from Edmonton going to the July 14th import shootout at BudPark raceway?

We need more REX's out there on Friday nights!!! I'm the only one.......I'd like to see a stocker run the 1/4 mile

$20.00 to see how it runs........every Friday night starting at 5:00pm till sundown.
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Old 07-02-2002, 02:11 PM   #2
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hey! I met u at the rally subaru thing...I drive the white wrx with the gold wheels....what times are u running up there??
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Old 07-02-2002, 02:15 PM   #3
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I was there a couple of times last year.. I will try to come out on friday the 14'th..

I should probably take the Baby seat out of the back before I Run




What kind of Times are you running?
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Old 07-02-2002, 02:43 PM   #4
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Best time at the track so far is a 14.00 with a burnt clutch and toasted fuel pump.

I upgraded the fuel pump to flow my bigger injectors, downloaded a fuel/timing map for my ECU, and the car is running ~13.4 @ 101mph

I have an Apex-i rev/speed meter which measures 1/4 mile times. I had it running at the track last Friday and it was consistently measuring .1 second different than the timeslip indicated (so if I ran a 14.00, my rev/speed meter would show a 14.1).

I had the car out on the weekend, ran a 13.7 with a 240lb dude in the car.

Hey, are there any races in Calgary this summer worth checking out?
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Old 07-02-2002, 03:29 PM   #5
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yup every friday at race city....secret streets......i heard a stock wrx ran a 14.4 there....and thats with a bad launch...i havent ran my car yet...i wanna work on my launches first haha...
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Old 07-02-2002, 04:10 PM   #6
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I ran like a 14.9 last year I was babying the car cause it only had 5000km on it.

I drove straight thru the water so that I wouldn't kill anything on launch ...

I think my 60' was 2.8
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Old 07-02-2002, 04:47 PM   #7
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Wow....2.8 huh....

I think my best 60' so far is 1.98

Can't wait till friday

Is it possible to take the car on the track? I used to race my bike on the track down there a few years ago. It sure would be nice to see how it performs in the corners
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Old 07-03-2002, 02:57 AM   #8
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yea that WRX ran pretty fast times... with downpipe only... pretty fast...

i wanted to drive the car for him... but i didn't want to break anything.. so i didn't

holy crap you ran a 13.4 whats the elevation in edmonth same as calgary? cause i ran the snot out of my car to get 13.4.... it was 5000 ft racecity said..
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Old 07-03-2002, 03:44 AM   #9
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Calgary elevation is around 3440ft. Edmonton is 2370ft.
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Old 07-03-2002, 04:26 AM   #10
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yes thats the absolute elevation... but with all factors of humidity and temp racecity said it was corrected to 5000 ft... then you go to nhra for corrections... to get an estimate... our turbo cars are not "as" affected but still affected...
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Old 07-05-2002, 12:02 AM   #11
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Calgary @ 5000ft

With all due respect, i doubt very much that any amount of humidity (or lack thereof), will make up a difference of 1800ft. Calgary downtown is a little below 3100ft. I have no idea where Race City sits in relation to that elevation.

FYI, their is an autocross at Nameo Base on the 14th therefore many of us will not be attending the Import show.
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Old 07-05-2002, 12:44 AM   #12
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go complain to race city... thats what they annouced... so thats what i'm telling... since they've been doing it for so many years... they probably have some system setup not a guessing game...
but i don't think that the corrections are for turbo cars... i think it should be less...
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Old 07-05-2002, 01:47 AM   #13
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Actually Markus, the solo II is scheduled to be at the Warehouse on July 14th.

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Old 07-05-2002, 07:44 PM   #14
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Me Bad!!!

You're right. Aug 4th is the Nameo autocross.
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Old 07-06-2002, 03:59 PM   #15
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HOK, actually the Race City ppl ARE guessing. We know most of them since the team I belong to has been racing ther since it opened. ALOT of volunteers that believe they know racing. They are using a old NHRA formula that does not take alot of factors into consideration like wind vectors and such. The elevation of the track should be used for calculation, not the relative elevation. You should be able to run 0.1 to 0.2 faster in edmonton. You should cme down, it'd would be nice to see more than one scooby.

ScoobieSnaX, I heard about you last Friday. Suprised alot of ppl. Make sure you keep it tuck away at night b/c the ppl that told me, we believe to be less than honourable. Keep up the good work. You should try your set-up on the road course at Race City. I think you'd have even more fun.
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Old 07-06-2002, 08:59 PM   #16
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Interesting. Surprised a lot of people? How so?

I guess if my ***** get's ripped off I know who to come talk to....
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Old 07-07-2002, 12:25 AM   #17
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HOK, actually the Race City ppl ARE guessing. We know most of them since the team I belong to has been racing ther since it opened. ALOT of volunteers that believe they know racing. They are using a old NHRA formula that does not take alot of factors into consideration like wind vectors and such. The elevation of the track should be used for calculation, not the relative elevation. You should be able to run 0.1 to 0.2 faster in edmonton. You should cme down, it'd would be nice to see more than one scooby.

ScoobieSnaX, I heard about you last Friday. Suprised alot of ppl. Make sure you keep it tuck away at night b/c the ppl that told me, we believe to be less than honourable. Keep up the good work. You should try your set-up on the road course at Race City. I think you'd have even more fun.
LOL darnit does that mean i won't be pulling 12.5's at sea level... lol... oh well.... cause thats what that NHRA chart says i'm at... someone said a good .5 is what sea would be at... i think thats reasonable... 12.9
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Old 07-07-2002, 03:54 AM   #18
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HOK All things being equal, I think you would run a better time at Bud Park than you would at Race City. Even if the elevation were the same. Being a dual purpose track Race City drag strip is cantered more for rain drainage (safety) so you have to do slightly more steering to keep straight. That slight scrubbing of the tire loses you time. Bud Park's track is more level. We've also noticed that the wind at Race City blows towards the tower more times than not, which means you are fighting the wind as well. Bud Park seems to blow all over but the position of the trees and stands do help to knock the wind speed down consistently. If you could reproduce two identical passes (R.T. & shift points) & environmental factors were similar, I think you would run a faster E.T. & trap speed in Edmonton even if the elevations were the same. This has nothing to do w/ the city rivalries. I hate to say it but Race City is not the place to go racing for quarter mile times. They do have a fun road course though, esp. in the rain.

I am extremely pleased to see the kind of times you are running. Keep up the good work.
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Old 07-07-2002, 12:46 PM   #19
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your words explain everything... because there are guys there that are FWD and they always complain about how its hardfor them here and blah blah... i never used to listen cause i thought they were just complaining for hiding thier driving...

when i'm driving on the 1/4 i don't really know whats going on... so much adrenalin... or actually I'm wincing to here a gear tear and something explode in my tranny... lol.... i don't think i've ever seen any of that road in focus while eyeing my egt guage.. but when you say bud park more level do you mean that race city is humped? in the middle.. or concave...? or is it on a slant..? also someone said something very wierd today to me... here they do the 0-400m and the guy said he would never drag race his subaru at above 1500ft... i ask him why and he said it would wreck the car... i thought he was crazy and he thought i was crazy... we're ALL CRAZY!
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Old 07-07-2002, 04:29 PM   #20
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The straightaway at Race City is higher in the middle than on the sides - turtlebacked. The staging areas are both slightly sloped away from the middle if the track.
FWD drag racers will have reason for concern if they have unequal length axles. If the short axle is too far off the centerline, towards the edge of the track, they possibly could experience torque steer. If FWD drivers improve thier launch rather than just dumping it a WOT, they should be able to overcome this problem. So it could be the driver.
All the Tracks in PuertoRico are curved for drainage & they have some of the fastest FWD cars down there. They have learned to live w/ the tracks' faults & adapt thier driving to suit.
Drag racing above 1500ft could be a problem if you ran the stock injectors, b/c you could possibly run into a lean condition at the top end, if you have other mods such as better engine breathing. You don't have to worry about that HOK.
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Old 07-07-2002, 09:01 PM   #21
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hey I'm 17, from edmonton......

I'm actually going to that airshow on the 14th, I think it ends around that time, is that bud racing strip near the airport by any chance? Cause I could mabe just zip over there after the airshow....how much is entry, what kinda stuff goes on down there? I just know vague facts.....
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Old 07-09-2002, 02:18 AM   #22
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The next three autocrosses in the Edmonton area (baring any FURTHER cancellations this year) are July 14th (St. Albert), Aug 4 and Aug 11 (Nameo AFB). The Aug 11th Event is the Autocross Cup which is a Team event only. For both Nameo events, ALL entrants must be pre-registered otherwsie they will not be allowed onsite.

Info is on the Edmonton Autocross Cup thread over here
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Old 07-09-2002, 04:05 PM   #23
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Damian, but this guy had a STI... they should be ok for injector sizes... he just had bolt ons... he was saying something like the car had to work harder... ?????
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You know how this beast works. The amt of fuel delivered is based upon the amt of air breathed in. So in higher altitudes where the air is thinner, less mass of air is sucked in, & less fuel is delivered, STi or not. Ask any of the folks in Colorado how thier E.T.'s suffer. It's not b/c the car is not capable, there is simply not enough air. They don't even run into richness problems.

With your injectors HOK, you should be able to run your set-up at sea level @ about 10% lean condition & still have fuel rich combustion. You really need a bigger turbo.
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but i don't think he would max his injectors... the STis are overtuned from factory so i was thinking it wouldn't matter with just some bolt ons... and his ECU **should** compensate right?
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