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Old 11-26-2010, 02:01 PM   #1
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I have 2 mis-shapen wheels and instead of spending 330 for each at 2 wheels it is cheaper to buy a new set.

tires are perfectly fine at 215-45-17.

will it look stretched? the 2 aftermarket wheels i have been looking at are the 7.5" and a 7". the 7.5 wheel is slightly lighter than the 17x7 but I COULD bolt on 225 later on if I wanted to without having to worry about wheels. I am mostly concerned with looking stretched.

ive contemplated going to the 17x8 and putting on 245-40-17.
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:05 PM   #2
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if you're contemplating a 17x8 and 245/40/17, why consider a 17x7 or 17x7.5? both sizes will work with your current tires, but do you wanna be stuck running a 225 at most? or would you sell these wheels later and upgrade to a 17x8?
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:26 PM   #3
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if you dont get the 17x8 you WILL regret it later
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:38 PM   #4
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17x8, throw the 215s on them for now, get new tires when money allows.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:26 PM   #5
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too late.

was trying to save money without going too far over weight.

ended up with enkei edr9 at a 17x8 in black. according to tire rack they are under 21.4lbs and i think from legacygt.com they said my stock wheel is a 22 pounder.

ordered the 245-40-17 pilot sport a/s plus. I run the re960 now but their 245 version has the same tread width as a 225. no way in hell am i gonna pay for a 245 and get a 225. plus on one review from tirerack they were just about equal so I dont think i am losing anything nor gaining another. but that 245 is a meaty meaty tire. saw a 225 f1 a/s and it makes a 235 look like a 225. thick tire.

miata tire calc says a 245-40-17 is at 60.2mph compared to a stock 215-45-17 at 60.

the pilot sport a/s+ at the 245-40-17 weighs in at 26lbs. my re960 215-45-17 weighs 25lbs. Looks as if I lose .4 lbs in wheel weight but gain 1lb in tire weight. .6+ gain net. assuming all weights are right on.

my gt is silver. hope it works out ok.

i did get a customed alignment with -.85 camber all around a year ago. hope i dont need to go back. i run the jdm rear sway bar as well if that means anything. yes, that works well. car doesnt go wide like it used to when pushed hard. just tracks.

does the gt need 225? not really. just a good alignment.

rambling...

should be in middle of next week. i am not lowered.
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:30 PM   #6
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if you're contemplating a 17x8 and 245/40/17, why consider a 17x7 or 17x7.5? both sizes will work with your current tires, but do you wanna be stuck running a 225 at most? or would you sell these wheels later and upgrade to a 17x8?
comes down to how much do i want to spend right this second entering winter.

my re960 have around 15k miles so they are still in great shape. only need new wheels.

figured if it comes down to it I can swap for the stock set and abuse those when it gets crazy out.

id rather spend $1600 on an i/c and downpipe than i would wheels.

i have the money just dont want to part with it. hehehe.
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comes down to how much do i want to spend right this second entering winter.

my re960 have around 15k miles so they are still in great shape. only need new wheels.

figured if it comes down to it I can swap for the stock set and abuse those when it gets crazy out.

id rather spend $1600 on an i/c and downpipe than i would wheels.

i have the money just dont want to part with it. hehehe.
d00000000000000d...you could get good i/c and dp for $300 used
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:43 AM   #8
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d00000000000000d...you could get good i/c and dp for $300 used
cobb catted d/p and an avo tmic?
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cobb catted d/p and an avo tmic?

that will make NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL to ebay specials or anything else you will buy


no...REALLY....
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:25 AM   #10
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that will make NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL to ebay specials or anything else you will buy


no...REALLY....
would you wear knock-off nikes?

same difference.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:30 AM   #11
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would you wear knock-off nikes?

same difference.
im smarter than paying for nikes in the first place



yew got a mental condition known as tryin to be too k00


you will grow outa that....mebbe
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:57 AM   #12
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im smarter than paying for nikes in the first place



yew got a mental condition known as tryin to be too k00


you will grow outa that....mebbe
what are you talking about?

nike was just an example.

trying to be cool? what the hell are you talking about?
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what are you talking about?

nike was just an example.

trying to be cool? what the hell are you talking about?
im talking aobut THIS

the dp you pay $600 for wont do you ANY BETTER than a used one for $150

same thing for the ic....you can get an Ic for $150 that you wouldnt be able to tell didnt cost $800

you aint building a race car


now.....spending the extra $$$ on better tires I can SEE doing

the dp and ic.....waste of time buying new and spending $1500 for
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:53 PM   #14
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im talking aobut THIS

the dp you pay $600 for wont do you ANY BETTER than a used one for $150

same thing for the ic....you can get an Ic for $150 that you wouldnt be able to tell didnt cost $800

you aint building a race car


now.....spending the extra $$$ on better tires I can SEE doing

the dp and ic.....waste of time buying new and spending $1500 for
i thought you were better than that.

everyone knows a d/p and ic doesnt cost 1600.
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comes down to how much do i want to spend right this second entering winter.

my re960 have around 15k miles so they are still in great shape. only need new wheels.

figured if it comes down to it I can swap for the stock set and abuse those when it gets crazy out.

id rather spend $1600 on an i/c and downpipe than i would wheels.

i have the money just dont want to part with it. hehehe.
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i thought you were better than that.

everyone knows a d/p and ic doesnt cost 1600.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:17 PM   #17
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you must have a small penis...
you really dont know who you are talking to do you?

Hell, even I think scotties a huge dick sometimes, but he knows what hes talking about.
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you really dont know who you are talking to do you?

Hell, even I think scotties a huge dick sometimes, but he knows what hes talking about.
there's 2 people who missed the point.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:22 PM   #19
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Can't we all just be friends?

Congrats on the new rolling stock. If you want to spend a lot of money on parts, that's all up to you. Scotty has his own way of being helpful haha, but the simple message is that you probably won't notice much difference whether you spend $400 or $1400 on exhaust/intercooler bits.
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there's 2 people who missed the point.
no...no I dont think so

I think YOU missed the POINT
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Old 11-29-2010, 12:03 PM   #21
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So to the original question.....

Does a 215 look stretched on a 7.5" rim? I've got P7's on my lowered wagon, thinking about moving to a lighter wheel.

As far as I can find, the best option is an 04 STI wheel at 16.5 lb and 53 offset, which 'should' allow me to run a 225. Not much else out there that has decent offset, but I may just opt for Rota Tarmac II's with a 215 - hence my question re: stretch.

I've got 225's on my P7's right now (gsd3's, which are narrow), and I HATE the sidewall slop.

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no, a 215 on a 7.5" wont be stretched. It should be pretty (or pretty close to) square.

Again, as everyone else stated, just go for a 17x8.......you will open yourself up to much more tire sizes.
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I have a lowered wagon, so as far as I understand a 17x8 is out of the picture without rolling the fenders.

Good to know re: the square look, I may opt for the gravels or tarmac II's with 215's, which would save me 3+ lbs per wheel over the p7's
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I have a lowered wagon, so as far as I understand a 17x8 is out of the picture without rolling the fenders.
completely false.
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OK, so if a 215 is the safe size, how do you run a 17x8 without a completely stretched look, or running a 225 and risk rubbing on a lowered wagon?

My main goals are twofold - first to gain better steering response over a 7" with 225's, and second to lighten up unsprung weight a bit. I can reallly notice the difference between my stock rims with 225/50/16's and the p7's with 225/45/17's (which are close to rubbing with gsd3's)

I had 225 pilot sport a/s on the p7's before, and had to pump them up to 39lbs to have decent response. I have the same on my 225/50/16's and run them at 40psi (although I need to run 42 before the response is decent, it give up too much traction that high IMO)
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