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Old 11-26-2010, 08:30 PM   #1
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just took of the summer tires and the back is worn out to 40% where the front is at 70%+ the backs have worn out equally and evenly , can some one tell me why that is?

i have the tokico D specs with tnabe gf210, oem sways the back are on a stiffer setting than the front if that makes a difference, just did an alignment this sumer so its not that.

any help would be great i jut put on brand new winters and i dont want the same thing happening to it
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:46 PM   #2
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yew didnt rotate the wheels did ya


that's your fault....not the car or the suspension or tires
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:54 PM   #3
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yew didnt rotate the wheels did ya


that's your fault....not the car or the suspension or tires
all 4 tires were brand new when i put them on this june, should have said it my bad
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:01 PM   #4
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all 4 tires were brand new when i put them on this june, should have said it my bad
and you didnt rotate you tires...did you???


THAT is the issue....maybe you need to rotate the wheels every 3000 miles so this wont happen
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Rotate every oil change ftw.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:07 PM   #6
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and you didnt rotate you tires...did you???


THAT is the issue....maybe you need to rotate the wheels every 3000 miles so this wont happen
ive done 6000km wich is pretty much close to your 3000miles, the tires and wheels were brand new, btw i am making 340Tq and 300 hp if thats makes any difference , and if i undrestand what your saying , that this is normal and i need to rotate every 3000 miles so this dosent happen than how come this happend to me within the millage with 4 brand new wheels and tires? even the mechanics found it odd and didnt know why, when i had my first set of wheels , blitz brw 08 with fusion zri this didnt happen to me. the only thing that changed was the power output
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:10 PM   #7
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Rotate every oil change ftw.
hmm i guess thats what i would have to do, i did an oil change 1000km ago, not sure if thats enough to cause this
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:13 PM   #8
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Yeah, if you are worried, get your alignment checked...but a bunch of power plus stiff suspension can cash out tires pretty quick.
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Old 11-26-2010, 09:17 PM   #9
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Yeah, if you are worried, get your alignment checked...but a bunch of power plus stiff suspension can cash out tires pretty quick.

ok well i just wanted to know if it was normal if you guys say it is i feel better and i do feel the back slipping when i floor it in first and aecond some times and i guess since i thought with AWD this couldnt happen... btw isnt the tq split 50-50 on the wrx?
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What treadwear rating is on your tires?
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What treadwear rating is on your tires?
that is, really, irrelevant


kid drives like a kid.....eats tires.....6000 clicks and tires at 40%????
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:27 PM   #12
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that is, really, irrelevant

kid drives like a kid.....eats tires.....6000 clicks and tires at 40%????
Well, if he is running anything in the 140-240 range, i was going to suggest maybe a 280-320. Less grip but better longevity.

Tires are consumables and high hp + lead foot = lots of tires eaten.
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Well, if he is running anything in the 140-240 range, i was going to suggest maybe a 280-320. Less grip but better longevity.

Tires are consumables and high hp + lead foot = lots of tires eaten.
d0000000000000000d

i have had 200 tw tires outlast 320tw tires

and also the other way around
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:42 PM   #14
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d0000000000000000d

i have had 200 tw tires outlast 320tw tires

and also the other way around
Wow really? I guess the compound quality has a lot to do with it, but i only run really high quality tires and ive always experienced a correlation between treadwear and lifespan (assuming no autox or trackdays).
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Wow really? I guess the compound quality has a lot to do with it, but i only run really high quality tires and ive always experienced a correlation between treadwear and lifespan (assuming no autox or trackdays).
do some research on the way that treadwear numbers are calculated and by whom

and the reason that they are not really any good sort of way to determine life expectancy of tires

because they arent, at least as far as UHP and MAX performance tires are concerned

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do some research on the way that treadwear numbers are calculated and by whom

and the reason that they are not really any good sort of way to determine life expectancy of tires

because they arent, at least as far as UHP and MAX performance tires are comcerned
Thanks i will do that. I appreciate the info. I never looked too deeply into tw vs life, beyond noticing a trend in the particular tires ive owned.

I usually care most about lateral dry and wet grip, and sidewall stiffness.
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Well, if he is running anything in the 140-240 range, i was going to suggest maybe a 280-320. Less grip but better longevity.

Tires are consumables and high hp + lead foot = lots of tires eaten.
hey as long as i know why its happening and its not an issue with the car i am happy, i have the hancook ventus evo 12, on the rating people say they are suppose 2 have a long life..
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I don't know what you're going to those tires. I've put over 20k miles on my summer tires, including a road race track event and my tires only vary by 2/32nd in tread and still plenty of safe life left.

You're either driving like an idiot a lot, or something else is causing ridiculous tire wear, Though, it's absolutely guaranteed it's the first thing. As it is, your tires vary by more than they should and the center diff will not be happy if you keep driving it.
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I don't know what you're going to those tires. I've put over 20k miles on my summer tires, including a road race track event and my tires only vary by 2/32nd in tread and still plenty of safe life left.

You're either driving like an idiot a lot, or something else is causing ridiculous tire wear, Though, it's absolutely guaranteed it's the first thing. As it is, your tires vary by more than they should and the center diff will not be happy if you keep driving it.
thats the thing i dont drive like a asshat, the car is 90% city driven and i only kick it here and there, never launch the car and like i said i only floor it from 1 on a rare occasion and thats why i was suprised when i saw my back tires.. if the back is more stiff can it cause it to lift and do this to the tire under hard acceleration?
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could it be that with the power levels i have my tires arent wide enough and this could be the cause? i have 225 vs 235 i had before and next i am looking to do 245
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could it be that with the power levels i have my tires arent wide enough and this could be the cause? i have 225 vs 235 i had before and next i am looking to do 245
If you are spinning them, then a wider tire or lighter foot would help the tire wear. :-)
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could it be that with the power levels i have my tires arent wide enough and this could be the cause? i have 225 vs 235 i had before and next i am looking to do 245
Not in the least, because I promise I make more than you on a 225 tire.
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Not in the least, because I promise I make more than you on a 225 tire.
so why is the back spining ? that could be the only thing that would cause these tires to look like that
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hey as long as i know why its happening and its not an issue with the car i am happy, i have the hancook ventus evo 12, on the rating people say they are suppose 2 have a long life..
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so why is the back spining ? that could be the only thing that would cause these tires to look like that
i have these tires


they leave a LOT to be desired

I will NOT buy them again
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i have these tires


they leave a LOT to be desired

I will NOT buy them again
figured for the price and the way people rave about them on tirerack
for sure next set ill be getting 235 or 245 what would you recommend that wont break the bank?
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