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Old 12-10-2010, 10:35 PM   #26
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Lets hear your justification as to why you purchased an STI over a WRX or visa versa.

Personally I am in the market for a new Subaru. I just sold a MY03 WRX wagon. I performed many modifications to that car and I loved the way it drove. However, I have always wanted an STI, specifically an STI WAGON. I have been reading articles over the interwebs, and Car&Driver states that the differences between the 2011 WRX and 20011 STI are not enough to justify the extra cost unless you are going to use the car as a rally car.

Now that both cars come in a widebody I have less reason to go with the STI, but I like the idea of better suspension performance right out of the box, as well as that fancy adjustable ECU.

Please give me your insight and expert knowledge. Thanks in advance. I just want to make sure I make the right choice for me.

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JC,

I can give you my .02 worth, I too was looking at both WRX & STI vehicles. I drove a '10 STI (11's were not out yet) and went right into a 11 WRX on the same day;

Yes, the six speed is like butter, the brakes are from another world, but in the end I went with the WRX for all around driving in the real world taking kids to school, work etc...I could not see the extra 8K or more being a viable decision. So far no regrets, put 16" alloy rims w/snows on and have had some good drives (until snow melted). IMO, if you are thinking about the two you really have to drive them to compare, i drove 95 miles to Seattle just to settle it and I would recommend the same or you will always do the whole "woulda shoulda thing".

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Old 12-10-2010, 10:46 PM   #27
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In NH the cost to register a car is based on its MSRP. To register a STi In NH would cost $900 per year.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:11 AM   #28
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Traded my 2010 WRX HB in on a 2011 STI HB. Except for a SPT shortshifter, exhaust and Perrin rear subframe bushings, my WRX was stock. No complaints about power, but, for me power is not everything. I'd rather have a car that handles well and has a bit "less" power than the other way around. Anyhow, saying it nicely, I was not satisfied with the stock suspension on my WRX. After some deliberation, I came to the conclusion that a 2011 STI HB had everything I wanted (better stock suspension, 6 speed trans, Brembo brakes, lightweight BBS rims, wide body kit, etc) so I went ahead and got the STI. Absolutely love the STI. I can now finally forget about my sweet 2004 Golf R32 that I sold a few years back.

Having said the above, if the cost and frills of a STI are not for you, then, IMO, a 2009-2010 and more so a 2011 WRX modded with RCE springs/Bilsteins and maybe a few other goodies would give you an excellent fast and fun-to-drive vehicle that can be had at a very reasonable price. "Bang for the Buck" you cannot beat a WRX. Good luck!
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:25 AM   #29
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I'm more than satisfied with my 2011 WRX, I DD my car, no track time, I just like a fun dd. When more money comes my way, I'll be buying an AP and for chirstmas I'll be throwing in a KB SS and bushings, so I'm really excited for that. The STI is a better machine, but now that the WRX's are closing the gap in terms of power, the only thing pushing me toward an STI is the 6sp, which my 5sp will never make enough power for me to worry about tranny failure. Probably at the most I'll throw in a TMIC/Turboback/Tune. Suspension is the kind of thing that people end up working on/changing anyway so that doesn't really concern me either, because eventually I'm going to make that thing handle like crazy. I'll be bold enough to say that even if I had the extra 6-10k or so to put down for an STI, I'd rather get a WRX and put money towards that, not because the WRX is going to be "better" than the STI with 5k worth of mods in it, but because I enjoy having a modded car, like lowered, wheels, rumbling exhaust, so I'd be willing to make that sacrifice.

On a side note, is the WRX considered a harder car to drive? I don't have much to compare to, but I feel like if I make the slightest error or weird movement, my car lets me have it lol. My friends trans am is so heavy that even if he dumps the clutch it barely rocks back and forth and is so forgiving. I don't know how the 6sp is about that, but that might make people enjoy it more.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:45 AM   #30
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My 2 cents.
Lets compare stock cars.

DD only: WRX
occasional track: STi

The first time you see your buddy in his WRX driving off the track with his brakes on fire, you'll be glad you had the STi.

No one ever bought a STi and said" **** I should have gotten the WRX instead. And I mean absolutely no disrespect to the WRX crowd.

FWIW my insurance is cheaper for my 09' STi than a 06' wrx wagon I was also quoted for. Something about the GR's highway safety rating according to my broker.

I also run 17" 06' BBS rims year round (star specs summer, sotto zero winter). The performance advantage over the base STi wheels is astounding.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:58 AM   #31
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if you have had an wrx before then you should already know why ones an wrx and the other is an STI. There not the same and never will be.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:03 PM   #32
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Sorry for opening old thread... But I seriously lol'ed at these

I had a 06 sti and to put it bluntly. I launched it in second gear cause 1st was useless.

I was shifting more than an 8 speed auto.

Now my 13 WRX is stock, but I get way better gas mileage and the great ratio's are much better suited.

The sti trans maybe stronger but it was the reason I got rid of my 360awhp still. It sucked.

I love my 750rwhp 1350rwtq Cummins more. Then it came time to get a car and I decided not to get an still because I hate it's stupidly closer gear ratio's. And honestly 10k is a hard sell when I don't even need what the Rex offers.

And I used to work in the mountains and I guarantee you that I had my stock sti brakes so hot they were beyond useless.

To put it bluntly, I think people regret buying sti's more since every used car fax I saw had several different owners. I know I did.

Lol roll coal

FYI I said I wish I had a WRX instead. Couldn't be happier. Plus I love merc'ing on imports in my butt ugly 12v Cummins
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Post '08 it's a tough decision. The freedom to drive the car like it was meant to is nice though. Most of us certainly didn't buy our cars to leave them stock so being care free at stage 2 is a good feeling. Yes the power can be equivalent on 09's and up but the 6spd is simply amazing and so well matched for that engine. Yeah the ratios are close but that means that you're almost always in boost. Plus with a Kartboy SS it is pure sex
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My 2 cents.
Lets compare stock cars.

DD only: WRX
occasional track: STi

The first time you see your buddy in his WRX driving off the track with his brakes on fire, you'll be glad you had the STi.

No one ever bought a STi and said" **** I should have gotten the WRX instead. And I mean absolutely no disrespect to the WRX crowd.

FWIW my insurance is cheaper for my 09' STi than a 06' wrx wagon I was also quoted for. Something about the GR's highway safety rating according to my broker.

I also run 17" 06' BBS rims year round (star specs summer, sotto zero winter). The performance advantage over the base STi wheels is astounding.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:31 PM   #33
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:44 PM   #34
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I had a heavily modded 03 WRX that I had built up from stock and rocked for a few years, but even fully done, it didnt' have the same feel as even a stock STi.

Fast forward a few years, back in the market for a new car, got to drive a stage 2 08 STi with every suspension upgrade you can imagine (car was built as a track toy) through some incredible roads in Northern CA and I was sold.

I knew I was going to mod the car, heavily, so I never even bothered to look at a WRX. Aside from that, after owning a WRX, and always knowing there was a better version out there, I had to take the step up.

For me the WRX was never even a consideration, I had been there, done that, and wanted more. I will acknowledge that the cars are significantly closer in performance out of the box these days, but the potential of the STi is still well above the WRX.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:48 PM   #35
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I had a heavily modded 03 WRX that I had built up from stock and rocked for a few years, but even fully done, it didnt' have the same feel as even a stock STi.

Fast forward a few years, back in the market for a new car, got to drive a stage 2 08 STi with every suspension upgrade you can imagine (car was built as a track toy) through some incredible roads in Northern CA and I was sold.

I knew I was going to mod the car, heavily, so I never even bothered to look at a WRX. Aside from that, after owning a WRX, and always knowing there was a better version out there, I had to take the step up.

For me the WRX was never even a consideration, I had been there, done that, and wanted more. I will acknowledge that the cars are significantly closer in performance out of the box these days, but the potential of the STi is still well above the WRX.
Yea, the potential of removing almost every stock part with aftermarket ones is way better to do on an sti.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:18 PM   #36
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Yea, the potential of removing almost every stock part with aftermarket ones is way better to do on an sti.
Keep justifying your purchase buddy, i know i made the right choice.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:05 PM   #37
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As others have said, in older years it was a bit of decision but for the 2013's I thought the WRX was clear cut choice for me. I needed a sunroof and if I got an STI with one it would be 30% (~$10k) more. If I was really concerned about the WRX performance I would spend ~$4k on upgrades and make it a little more on par with the STI.

I'd like to track my car in the future so I will most likely just trade my WRX in on an STI depending how the future generation looks. Either car will put a smile on your face.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:14 PM   #38
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<jack looks at son's 07 WRX LTD's shift knob> Yup. 6 speed. Because swaps are possible for way less than the $10k difference in price.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:44 PM   #39
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get a 1995 impreza and call it a day.... then ill show you how to romp that car mother****er
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:08 AM   #40
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i like my 5 speed bc i dont drag launch my car and i like the ratios of the 5 spd but i wish i had the differentials of the sti....
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:50 AM   #41
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holy mother of your jesus, dead thread revival tuesday .....
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #42
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specifically an STI WAGON.
It's a hatchback. geez.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:45 PM   #43
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I had a heavily modded 03 WRX that I had built up from stock and rocked for a few years, but even fully done, it didnt' have the same feel as even a stock STi.

Fast forward a few years, back in the market for a new car, got to drive a stage 2 08 STi with every suspension upgrade you can imagine (car was built as a track toy) through some incredible roads in Northern CA and I was sold.

I knew I was going to mod the car, heavily, so I never even bothered to look at a WRX. Aside from that, after owning a WRX, and always knowing there was a better version out there, I had to take the step up.

For me the WRX was never even a consideration, I had been there, done that, and wanted more. I will acknowledge that the cars are significantly closer in performance out of the box these days, but the potential of the STi is still well above the WRX.
The difference between the cars we are talking about is so small, the only thing you'd notice is one less gear in the wrx.

Your experience with your bugeye is not even remotely comparable, so much so that it isn't even relevant.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:31 AM   #44
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The difference between the cars we are talking about is so small, the only thing you'd notice is one less gear in the wrx.

Your experience with your bugeye is not even remotely comparable, so much so that it isn't even relevant.
Don't really disagree, the wrx has come a looooong way from the days of the bugeye. But if you think the only difference is a gear you've never experienced what the sti has to offer.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:47 AM   #45
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Got my wrx for 3 reasons. Its my daily driver, go anywhere car. Cant see myself taking an sti camping where we go. Money was 2nd. Last and most important. I have a little girl that was 4 mo at the time. Visions of kids projectiling and spilling stuff all over didnt sit well with me in an sti with leather.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:48 PM   #46
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If you think the only difference is one gear and the diffs, you need to think again.


Watch that video. The STI and WRX only share 5 suspension pieces, other than that, completely different setups.
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^^ In terms of identical parts....the layout is exactly the same. Guess you guys don't know what paraphrasing is. I never stated the only difference is 1 gear, there are FAR more differences than simply "1 gear and some lsd's". Read below.

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Don't really disagree, the wrx has come a looooong way from the days of the bugeye. But if you think the only difference is a gear you've never experienced what the sti has to offer.
In terms of the 2011+ wrx vs 2008+ sti, for a daily street driven car, yeah...thats the only real difference.

they make identical power, suspension is definitely better out of the box for the sti but can be cheaply upgraded in the wrx, stopping distances are within a couple of feet of each other, but the LSD's in the sti are pretty nice especially for those that see harsher weather.

I'm not stating one is better than the other, but merely that they perform pretty much the same for 99.999% of users that will never track their car.
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If you think the only difference is one gear and the diffs, you need to think again.

Subaru gone wild: an intimate peek at a naked 2011 WRX STI - YouTube

Watch that video. The STI and WRX only share 5 suspension pieces, other than that, completely different setups.
I have been looking for days for this video. It popped up in my recommended viewing once but I never saw it again. I think this is a great representation of the differences.

Whether any of them mean anything to you is completely your choice of course.

I bought the STi and would never reconsider for a WRX.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:51 PM   #50
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^^ In terms of identical parts....the layout is exactly the same. Guess you guys don't know what paraphrasing is. I never stated the only difference is 1 gear, there are FAR more differences than simply "1 gear and some lsd's". Read below.



In terms of the 2011+ wrx vs 2008+ sti, for a daily street driven car, yeah...thats the only real difference.

they make identical power, suspension is definitely better out of the box for the sti but can be cheaply upgraded in the wrx, stopping distances are within a couple of feet of each other, but the LSD's in the sti are pretty nice especially for those that see harsher weather.

I'm not stating one is better than the other, but merely that they perform pretty much the same for 99.999% of users that will never track their car.

Again, don't necessarily disagree, but regardless of the similarities in parts, the STi offers a very different driving experience. The quicker gear ratios, better road feel via suspension and drivetrain, hell even just the way the shifter feels. There is a very big difference in the way the cars will rip out of a corner at full throttle, and if you don't know what i'm talking about you haven't really driven an STi.

It really just comes down to this, if you are torn between the two, i'm sure you can come up with a slew of reasons to own either car, they're both incredible vehicles. But if you want an STi, the WRX will never do, it will always have been a compromise.
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