Tire/Turbo Longevity Question

[Elemento1991]

People are giving my parents ridiculous figures like my sport tires only lasted 6,000 miles and I babied them! I think that's absurd but I need some proof to show my parents to disprove this malarchy ... what mileage do you guys get out of your tires on your WRX/STi's?

The turbo's go out every 40,000 miles on those things is another famous one. How long have your turbos lasted?

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[Jack ffr1846]

What tire brand/model in particular?

Heck.....I got almost 10k out of some Kumho MX's that were track/street tires for me. 6k sounds like someone needs an alignment.

I have some RE-92's that probably have 50k miles on them. They just won't wear out, even though they've been through 3 owners and 4 cars!

[jdmboy]

this greatly depends on what tires your talking about? what kind of driving you do (how many track days)? ect. that said i would expect the average high performance summer street tire to last me about 3 seasons. so like 20-25k miles. but in the end there is no way for me to tell you how long your tires should last, there are far to many variables.

[leecea]

It's going to depend on the type of tire, the type of driving, and when you define a tire to be "done".

My opinion is that if someone says they only got 6K miles, just shrug and move on. Why are you trying to prove anything to them? Chances are they won't listen anyway.

Unless you are crazy or running r-compounds on the street, you should get a lot more than 6K miles.

[Elemento1991]

I'm not trying to prove anything to the people with the tires, they tell my parents this horse**** and then they're like i'm not cosigning on a loan for that thing!

People have told them all turbo cars need new turbos all the time and the tires only last six thousand miles, like people are seriously retarded and my parents buy right into what they say, it pisses me off, royally.

They don't even take credit for what anyone says on here it's stupid. I think people on here would know more than any joe-blow (like their boss) who probably neglected oil changes and all kinds of proper maintenance. I have a good job lined up soon anyways though so i'll probably just end up buying a beater truck and waiting til I can buy with cash so I don't have to deal with the lack of mechanical competence. These are actual quotes "Just don't get a Mustang, They're too fast!" , "That thing will never keep up with my Nissan Titan, it's a v8"

Like I get in my mom's Civic and it says change oil in -7856 miles. The people who are telling them the cars are unreliable are probably maintaining their cars just like my parents do. They're my parents and I respect them but they just won't even try to listen or understand to what I have to say on this topic and it is seriously driving me NUTS.

[Jack ffr1846]

Well, my 08 Legacy GT has 75k miles on it and I'm on the original turbo. I've gone through one set of tires so far.

Have your parents call me. I'm probably older than them anyways, so I'll call your dad "sonny" and your mom "sweet heart".

[curo72]

Originally Posted by Jack ffr1846

Well, my 08 Legacy GT has 75k miles on it and I'm on the original turbo. I've gone through one set of tires so far.

Have your parents call me. I'm probably older than them anyways, so I'll call your dad "sport" and your mom "sweet heart".

Sorry. Needed to complete the Scrubs reference.

[Web Foot STi]

Modern water cooled turbos last a good long time. My car has just under 60,000 miles and is running fine. I am on my second set of RE-070 tyres and brake pads. I probably could have made it to 40,000 mi with the rubber, but at ~33k I picked up a piece of scrap steel and had to replace them. This includes some HPDE, Auto-X, and hillclimbing. Haven't had to do anything other than regular maintenance.

When I got more serious at the track I put on some Victoracers and DS3000 pads for those days, but that doesn't really count for consumables for this thread.

[jdmboy]

the stock turbo on my 02 has like 115k miles on it and it still puts out 16-17 psi no problem, all that bull**** about how long things are "suppose" to last is just that bull****. For instance how long do you think your timing belt can really last? im sure there are people out there that have gone 200k miles on a timing belt, and im sure there are people out there that theirs broke before 105k miles.

[Byzantium]

110k miles and I'm on my 6th set of tires and will have to buy my 7th soon.

There is no way to determine how long wear items will last. It depends totally on the usage.

[Elemento1991]

Yes i'm aware that there is no official number, my point is i just want some actual numbers you guys get. Even if I beat the piss out of my car I would get more than 7k on a set of tires and 40k on a turbo.

[Unabomber]

An OEM Subaru turbo will last well north of 100,000 miles.
Tires is a mixed bag, but NO STREET TIRE will be bald in 6000 miles unless:

a. There is a serious alignment issue
b. It's a powerful RWD car like a Mustang and you do smokey burnouts all day/every day.

[cmiovino]

I've gotten about 10,000 miles out of my Kuhmo ASX's. I autoxed them once near the end of their life. Mines automatic too.

I think Subarus AWD just eats tires... like just that grip wears them out sooner. I hear of people complaining when they don't get 30-40K out of tires. I understand compounds are different and all... and I live in Pittsburgh where our roads are horrible too, but there's just something about Subarus and eating tires.

BTW, they're not bald, but they're hitting the wear marks.. so I change um.

[Web Foot STi]

Originally Posted by cmiovino

I've gotten about 10,000 miles out of my Kuhmo ASX's. I autoxed them once near the end of their life. Mines automatic too.

I think Subarus AWD just eats tires... like just that grip wears them out sooner. I hear of people complaining when they don't get 30-40K out of tires. I understand compounds are different and all... and I live in Pittsburgh where our roads are horrible too, but there's just something about Subarus and eating tires.

BTW, they're not bald, but they're hitting the wear marks.. so I change um.

Subaru's likes dead nuts zero toe. The OEM spec is WAY too loose. My car came with -0.06* total toe. The spec is +/- 0.26*. I left the alignment shop with 0.00* left and right -.01* total. i.e. the limit of the racks accuracy.

OP, if you do get a Subaru get it aligned right away and be picky. (You also want max balanced neg camber up front.)

[leecea]

Originally Posted by Elemento1991

They don't even take credit for what anyone says on here it's stupid.

Sounds like you could get 1000 posts here saying that turbos and tires last forever and it will not matter.

I'd be nervous about co-signing a car loan with my son or daughter and I'm sure they'd think my concerns were stupid. I think that if a young person wants independance, they need to be independant.

[JohnnyG]

Originally Posted by Elemento1991

The turbo's go out every 40,000 miles on those things is another famous one.

I think you've got turbos confused with a Wankel engine.

[hedwagon]

06 WRX - 105k
55k+ on my RE92's. Rotated twice.
40k+ on my BFG Super Sports. Alignment issue took 10k or so off of them.
The rest on Riken Raptors. Tires are holding up well after 15k.

Zero turbo issues.

I use the cars power all the time.

I will talk to your parents if you want. My WRX is only one set of tires ahead of my 03 Accord at the same mileage. The WRX is safer, handles better & is better in bad weather.

[rkramer]

Originally Posted by leecea

I'd be nervous about co-signing a car loan with my son or daughter and I'm sure they'd think my concerns were stupid. I think that if a young person wants independance, they need to be independant.

I think that is a far bigger issue... I'd never co-sign a loan for a kid for a wrx, actually for any car... If you can't afford it on your own, you simply can't afford it. get a job, get an education, get a better job, pick one... If you are living with your parents then your car should be at a minimum FWD, 10 years old, <60k miles, and no more than 150 hp MAX. Have your parents checked on insurance? If they haven't, then they are REALLY going to have a fun surprise in store!

Doesn't matter what line your parents are telling you, they don't want you to have the car and are making up excuses to hopefully change your mind.

[zzyzx85]

someone with a well-maintained and well-documented car should pull up to your house and talk to your parents.

[JAVAR WRX]

My WRX its 10 months old, I'm at 6035 miles and my summer tires are still like new. I'm getting my winter set General Altimax Artic with my Motegi Racing MR281 wheels for the next 4 months.
Try to show this thread to your parents and they will see that If you are not a crazy driver you will be fine and your car will last you a long time with the proper care.

[DansSpace]

I'll chime in to add to your arsenal of parent disproving knowledge.
05 LGT- 62k miles. Original Turbo. My S-drives have about 6-7k on them and don't even look like I've driven on them.
I also had an 02 WRX. Sold that with 52k miles. Original turbo. I had to replace the stock RE92s on that car when it had 42k miles. That's it.

[knockknockknock]

Originally Posted by Elemento1991

... they tell my parents this horse**** and then they're like i'm not cosigning on a loan for that thing! ...

If you are trying to get your parents to cosign a loan. Sorry Charlie, they have to pay off if you default, so it is their rules. I would suspect they want you to get a car that you can afford to buy, maintain and will survive the term of the loan. In other words an affordable practical car.

[Elemento1991]

Yaddy yaddy yadda lol, they were gonna get me a WRX last week but I told them I didn't want it, the modding was risky, now people are feeding them this trash and they don't want to anymore. As for them cosigning they're just doing that because I don't have credit score yet. Im working full-time as a snowboard instructor. I'm not getting some FWD piece of trash that's gonna leave me stranded on the mountain again this year. Its a WRX or beater truck basically. The insurance is only 200 dollars more a year than my maxima, and I can easily handle a $185 payment a month. Ill be paying about 600 dollars of it off a month at minimum and in February it's likely that i'll be starting work at $23 an hour, but thats still a bit up in the air right now. Either way I got the payment done easily.

[imaJEENYUS]

what happens when the snow melts?

[Elemento1991]

Originally Posted by imaJEENYUS

what happens when the snow melts?

Keep driving my WRX and love every minute of it. If I'm gonna go as far to spend 6 grand on an AWD I don't really like like, why not go the extra 3k and get the car i've wanted since I was 12 years old.

If you mean work, I'll flag roadwork at Penndot, I can always get any of my old summer jobs back, maybe do construction labor, keep working at Seven Springs (The resort) building the features for next season, but i'll most likely be in my electrician apprenticeship before the snow even melts anyways but I have plenty of places I can work.