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Old 03-04-2011, 02:32 PM   #151
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Looks like you might be working on the plumbing too. Or next. Looks good.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:54 PM   #152
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^ That's true. I've got all the oil/water lines ready to go too, but likely won't plumb them until the turbo is fixed to the manifold/DP. The passenger side AVCS line will be completely replaced and the 'T' for the turbo oil feed will be off the front. Coolant will still be coming from the rear supply unless someone can convince me of doing it another way.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:20 PM   #153
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The coolant tube that feeds the water/oil heat exchanger. It comes out from behind the coolant thermostat and runs under the crank pully. Seems like it would be simple enough to plumb the turbo into there. Benifit is not having a long soft line that isn't easily reached (one of the last things you need at a race track).
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I'll look into that routing. My only concern is that supply line would be going over the header. I might not matter.

I've not seen anyone plumb coolant to the WG, on a street car. Anyone seen or heard of any data that makes this worthwhile?
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:33 PM   #155
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The rear supply comes out next to where the stock up pipe is, so I don't think it would matter either.

I've heard and discussed the reasons behind TiAL's watercooled ewg, and I think you should (need to) hook them into the cooling system when running big power over a longer time, like circuit tracks. I've heard of horror stories of blowing engines due to super heated exhaust gas, and the diagphram inside (the ewg) expanding and not being able to open when it needed to. For a street car it wouldn't hurt for some prevention especially if you see the track now and again. How many people drive around with oil-coolers everyday? I'm not sure what people do for drag cars since I don't really rock the 1320.














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Nothing too exciting, just laid in the I/C piping...

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Will this kit require your oil-fill tube relocation kit? Looks like it from the pictures.
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The rear supply comes out next to where the stock up pipe is, so I don't think it would matter either.

I've heard and discussed the reasons behind TiAL's watercooled ewg, and I think you should (need to) hook them into the cooling system when running big power over a longer time, like circuit tracks. I've heard of horror stories of blowing engines due to super heated exhaust gas, and the diagphram inside (the ewg) expanding and not being able to open when it needed to. For a street car it wouldn't hurt for some prevention especially if you see the track now and again. How many people drive around with oil-coolers everyday? I'm not sure what people do for drag cars since I don't really rock the 1320.

ahm, got any more pics?
I think I'm going to route the Tial off the OEM cooler loop and the turbo off the OEM turbo supply. Routing them both off one line, while easier, just feels wrong.

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Will this kit require your oil-fill tube relocation kit? Looks like it from the pictures.
Good questions. I'll put the OEM one on there and see how that works out.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:03 PM   #158
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Sounds like a solid plan man.
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Updates? I can't wait to see what's next.
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Thanks!

Here's a pic of the DP (tacked up) leading to the cat-back. As you can see I've got a cat in there. I'm considering breaking the tacks at the bottom and installing a v-band. This would make swapping a cat in/out extremely easy if you wanted a cleaner daily driver and a max flow weekend racer. Testing should show what kind of gains could be had.

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Old 03-14-2011, 10:57 AM   #162
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Hmm, with a large turbo setup I'm surprised to see a cat in the exhaust, but a good idea anyway. Either way I know I'll stay catless.
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Like I said, we'll be putting v-bands before/after the cat.

This leaves many options available: catted, non-catted or V-bands so you can swap whenever you wanted.
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Like I said, we'll be putting v-bands before/after the cat.

This leaves many options available: catted, non-catted or resonator, so you can swap whetever you wanted.
Fixed for ya buddy.

How are those pictures developing? I like what I see so far. Keep em coming.

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Crazy setup. I'm always impressed with your products. Keep it up! (as a cdn. I also like products built in the USA, helps us with duty costs!)
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I would just offer it with the cat. If you're keeping A/C for the road-going car, they [the consumer] are likely going to need cats to pass emissions. As much as having the cat code disabled works....one look under your car and you'll fail visual and not even get to the emissions.

I completely understand wanting the functionality of v-bands, race pipes, and test pipes, but be real. How many people ACTUALLY swap between race and test pips?

Keep up the good work!

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Cats add money to the cost of the kit. KB is designing the kit to be flexible, and not everyone will want a cat.

I like the idea. I swap my exhaust all the time when I go to the track, a JIC Ti. But I hate trying to stay quiet on the street, so I put my stock exhaust for dd. With the way KB is doing it, it will allow people to change the cat/test-pipe out, and they can make the car a little quieter or perform better in a short time.

The reason you don't see people swap the stock location cat, out, might be because where the stock location cat is. It sure isn't as easy as this KB looks like it will be. Looks like it would take 5 minutes, not 2hrs.
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Well said John!

There will be options to choose from so the customer gets exactly what they want
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:59 PM   #171
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i may have missed it but any chance this might work on the gr chassis?
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As soon as we get some results on the GD we'll go to work on the GR. It shouldn't take nearly as long since some parts can already be used and the GR has more room to play with up front.
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Keep those pics coming...
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Here's some more...

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Welding is complete on the FMIC finally... Well almost. Just have to tie in the bottom to the crossmember.



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for the love of god that's one hell of a thick intercooler.

just curious but any thoughts on making a standalone fmic kit? if you could get the price below kits like APS and Perrin and keep the usual KillerB quality you could have a winner.
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