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Old 12-25-2010, 03:20 PM   #1
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Question 110 - 115v gas mig welder choices that are food

I have been looking at welders for a while now. I am interested in buying one and learning to use it well. So what would be some good choices. Really don"t want to spend over $500.
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Old 12-25-2010, 04:03 PM   #2
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A 110v mig is pretty much worthless in my opinion. If you can swing a 220v you'll be so much better off. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-25-2010, 04:06 PM   #3
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I don't have the outlet for that
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:36 PM   #4
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I got the lincoln electric setup they sell at home depot. Was <500 and so far I made some IC piping, exhaust piping, and roof rack adapter. I'm very impressed with it for the price
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:46 PM   #5
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and 110v will be perfect for 99% of things for your car. if you start doing heavy **** then yea, you will want a 220v. having owned a 110v machine from lincoln it worked great for over 5 i had it (was the one from HD) i now use a 220v tig and a 220v mig from miller and love them both. if you are just starting a 110v unit will get you started. also check out CL for used ones for much cheaper
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:59 AM   #6
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^ Thank you, I was looking for your input. Been trying CL but with no luck. Only found 220v or flux. Yet I have $100 in sears gift cards.

Was looking at this one this afternoon. Yet wonder if that is any good. Craftsman isn't exactly known for welders.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...1&blockType=G1

I was looking at helmets. Is a cheap Harbor freight one worth it? Or is this an item you get what you pay for? I welded a bit with arc welders in high school. Problem was I could never see what I was doing.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:09 AM   #7
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What are you trying to weld??
If you are going to weld stainless/thinwall maybe a TIG welder would be a better idea.
If going for a MIG welder I would rather buy a name brand one,even secondhand then a new cheap no-name thing.Parts and support are way easier, and you are inevetably going to run into some problem or other as you are new to MIG welding.


As a helmet I would get a good one.
Your eyes will thank you for it in the long run.

I have a Speedglas off of Ebay, but it is a very current model/style, so can buy spare/replacement parts locally.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:04 PM   #8
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^ Thank you, I was looking for your input. Been trying CL but with no luck. Only found 220v or flux. Yet I have $100 in sears gift cards.

Was looking at this one this afternoon. Yet wonder if that is any good. Craftsman isn't exactly known for welders.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...1&blockType=G1

I was looking at helmets. Is a cheap Harbor freight one worth it? Or is this an item you get what you pay for? I welded a bit with arc welders in high school. Problem was I could never see what I was doing.
iirc the sears ones are rebaded clark units. so not to bad. they also have some lincoln welders there too. as for helmets you do get what you pay for. but you could pick up a cheap non autodarkening one and be fine with it. but for autodarkening good ones are $$
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:00 PM   #9
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I also have one of the 110 volt Lincoln welders from home depot it uses flux core wire so you don't need gas and its small and light enough to be easily portable. Sure it won't make pretty welds like you get with a tig but there strong and get the job done so far I've built and exhaust, a light bar, fender braces and a skid plate with it. All of these were made of steel this welder cant do aluminum. And I got a auto darkening helmet at harbor freight for about $50 its worked great of over a year now.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:39 PM   #10
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I picked up a Hobart 140 Mig on NortherTools this past year, with their Auto darkening mask($60 ~) , some replacement lenses,some welding 90*'s, and pair of gloves. It was right around $500 for everthing shipped.

Mind you, you still need to invest in wire and tips. And a bottle if you would like to mig and not just flux core.

Overall I am very happy with my purchase there. Have done a fair amount of 20-22 ga sheet metal work on rust repairs. Also welded misc. items up to 1/4" thick with flux core and still showed sufficient penatration.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:13 PM   #11
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i got a nice 110v lincoln off of craigslist for $225. its a 3200hd.
id say stick with lincoln, miller, and hobart. flux core is convenient but its messy compared
to mig w/gas. but who wants to get a bottle filled. i know i dont.
you can get flux wire from walmart now
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:28 PM   #12
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Don't waste your money on any of that junk. Buy a Miller, you'll be able to get parts for it 20 years from now. I have a Miller Cricket from 1989 and still works perfect. You can still get all the consumables easily, can't say that for the others. I worked in the welding supply industry for years and Miller stands by their product and is the best for the money. Hobart (owned by Miller) ESAB and Lincoln in that order are other options. Best option is to find one used, as you can usually get everything, welder, regulator, and bottle on the cheap.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:19 PM   #13
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love the speedglass helmets just for their head gear, Selstrom makes a nice retro fit quick change cartridge that fits in 2x4 and 4x5 helmets. adjustable delay, sensitivity, and shade 9 to 13 and have a three year warranty
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Yeah, like has been said, get a name brand welder, Miller, Lincoln, or Hobart. I have a Miller arc welder but have used several Lincoln units and I would be perfectly happy owning either. My dad actually uses an old Forney arc from the 60s and loves it.

That said, since you're just tryin to learn, get a 110v MIG welder that you can use flux core wire in. I would seriously doubt that you'll ever need to weld metal thicker than 1/4" and if you do, just V it out.

For masks, a non auto-darkening mask is all you need. Some have nicer headgear but they all do the same thing. Auto-darkening masks are pretty sweet though.
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The Miller Passport is a great portable welder, and the Miller 140 Autoset is a great small shop or garage welder. The Passport is even taking over in Nascar shops as the go to welder. Check it out on line at Miller Welding.

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Old 12-30-2010, 02:33 PM   #16
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And I got a auto darkening helmet at harbor freight for about $50 its worked great of over a year now.
If you value your eyesight don't get the auto darkening from Harbor freight.. It will fail.. You will get blinded for 10 or 15 minutes.. It sucks.

Every single one of them that a student purchased in my last advanced welding class failed by the end of the semester.. Every - last - piece of Chinese Crap one. It was probably a lot more welding than your average DIY'er will do ever - but just save the money and buy a regular helmet. You don't need auto darkening..

Stick to a name brand - If you can get one with a gas kit do it.. You cannot compare a flux cored 110v mig with a regular gas shielded mig..

And a 110v mig can even weld thick metals just fine - it will just take more passes..
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you can't go wrong with Miller. I have a 200amp tig welder that is about 40years old and still going strong. I'm looking to buy a mig soon, and it will be a Miller.
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