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Old 12-27-2010, 09:58 PM   #1
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Default okay to drive to dealership with downpipe and no tune?

this got a little out of hand for no reason, so please delete!

to all of you who gave me **** saying i was trying to hide something from the dealership, here was my response later in this thread

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damnnn you guys need to relax!! im not trying to HIDE anythng from the dealership. i just didnt know if i should leave the stage 2 map on when i bring it to them incase it gave them troubles when they hooked their computers to the car. They'll obviously see the dp and hear the exhaust and see the intake.

and incase you were wondering, i bought the car about 5 months ago. ccording to subaru, the transmission was taken apart before, and it wasnt warranty work. so for all i know someone might have messed something up and now i have to deal with it. they said the mods wont void my warrant either.

im not trying to screw anyone over and im not trying to hide anything. some of you need to settle down a little bit.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:22 PM   #2
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my car had a custom stage 2 plus intake tune, but i had to bring it to the dealership due to a transmission related issue (hoping to god they cover it) and i brought the tune back to stock incase they plug in their computers (im not worried about them seeing i had a stage 2 map, more concerned about if they need to retreive info or something and cant because of the map)

anyway, i detuned it in the parking lot, but im curious if it would be okay in the future to drive it 15 minutes without the tune? of course being very gentle and not boosting
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:13 AM   #3
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How about you quit trying to screw everyone over? You modded and added significantly more power than stock, now your trans is dead. By trying to screw over subaru you are hurting everyone else that actually should be getting valid warranty coverage.

Pay to play... If you want warranty, don't mod.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:22 AM   #4
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they will see the downpipe and more than likely deny warranty coverage, seeing it is a powertrain issue.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:58 AM   #5
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Pay to play... If you want warranty, don't mod.

This.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:16 AM   #6
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I agree, you should return your warrenty if there is alot of time left on it. But to answer your question, it will be fine to drive without a map if your only stage 2
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:21 AM   #7
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1. You know that they can tell if your ECU has ever been flashed, stock map or not, right...? Derp.

2. If they will deny you for the ECU changes, the will likely deny you for the downpipe.

3. Pay to play.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:44 AM   #8
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15 minutes without the tune...sometimes 15 minutes can save you 15% off
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:21 AM   #9
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So you think they wont see the bright shiny DP? That's the giveaway, not the tune. Some people have luck with warranty work but you're most likely screwed as its your trans.

If you were gonna try and screw them you should have at least swapped the DP and done it correctly.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:44 AM   #10
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In todays world of how much Subaru of America knows what were doing to our cars, hell no they wont warranty something with a DP on it. My buddy who works at the local subie dealer sees subies getting refused warranty work all the time due to being modified.

It will pass an inspection (plug in) with an AP or ECUTEK flash but youll proabally fail a visual unless you know the guy or something.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:52 AM   #11
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im not worried about them seeing i had a stage 2 map, more concerned about if they need to retreive info or something and cant because of the map
Then why not ask them, rather than posting here? (I think they'll be more willing to help you if you don't appear to be trying to hide something from them...)

What's the problem with the transmission?
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:12 AM   #12
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Why is it that ppl think that we have no idea what modifications are or what to look for, It makes me laugh sometimes that we go to school and work on subarus everyday and some ppl think they can slip these things by us.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:28 AM   #13
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my car had a custom stage 2 plus intake tune, but i had to bring it to the dealership due to a transmission related issue (hoping to god they cover it) and i brought the tune back to stock incase they plug in their computers (im not worried about them seeing i had a stage 2 map, more concerned about if they need to retreive info or something and cant because of the map)

anyway, i detuned it in the parking lot, but im curious if it would be okay in the future to drive it 15 minutes without the tune? of course being very gentle and not boosting
I wouldn't do that.

If they drive it and romp on it then blow up your car you'll really be boned.

Get the work done with the tune, or if you are intent on gaming the system and lying about everything, completely revert your car to stock then have it looked at.

My bet is you hurt your transmission launching it and they will laugh at you either way.

I have my pro-tuned Stage 2+ car worked on by the dealership only. I never bull**** them and tell them not to mess with the tune. They have never given me a hard time. Then again I haven't had a failure related to mods so no worries either way.

I still think you were beating on your car to damage the tranny, now want to screw over Subaru for your poor care of your car.

Pretty shisty if you ask me.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:46 AM   #14
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it seems like everyone is neglecting to answer the original question. yes, you should be fine driving it carefully. try to avoid spooling the turbo too much and you should be fine. honestly, it pisses me off more that people try to tell you that you're trying to screw subaru over. they don't know your relationship with the dealership, nor should they be commenting on it. don't post a reply if you don't intend on answering the question, thank you, and i'm done with my rant.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:02 PM   #15
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it seems like everyone is neglecting to answer the original question. yes, you should be fine driving it carefully. try to avoid spooling the turbo too much and you should be fine. honestly, it pisses me off more that people try to tell you that you're trying to screw subaru over. they don't know your relationship with the dealership, nor should they be commenting on it. don't post a reply if you don't intend on answering the question, thank you, and i'm done with my rant.
That was stated above. The point is, if he had a good relationship with them he wouldn't need to revert the tune. Im not saying i want him to be denied coverage, he just needs to know that most likely it wont be covered.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:22 PM   #16
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1. You'll be fine.

2. And for everyone talking trash about "gaming the system" and "lying" -- oh please. Like every one of you doesn't leave out that part about modding your car in hopes that they won't "notice" your mods and deny your specific warranty claim.

"I'm totally honest with them!" Sho' 'nuff brother. Sho' 'nuff.

3. We don't know what's wrong with his tranny. It could be there was a bad synchro from the start...or a faulty bearing. Hell, maybe he did mess it up launching? Point being: we (you as well) have no clue, so stop being a bunch of whiny babies until we know (then we can pound him). Why so srs?
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:23 PM   #17
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it seems like everyone is neglecting to answer the original question. yes, you should be fine driving it carefully. try to avoid spooling the turbo too much and you should be fine. honestly, it pisses me off more that people try to tell you that you're trying to screw subaru over. they don't know your relationship with the dealership, nor should they be commenting on it. don't post a reply if you don't intend on answering the question, thank you, and i'm done with my rant.
And you think the tech test driving his car to find the problem will 'stay out of boost'?



He has no relationship with them otherwise he wouldn't need to remove his tune in the first place.

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Old 12-28-2010, 12:37 PM   #18
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1. You'll be fine.

2. And for everyone talking trash about "gaming the system" and "lying" -- oh please. Like every one of you doesn't leave out that part about modding your car in hopes that they won't "notice" your mods and deny your specific warranty claim.

"I'm totally honest with them!" Sho' 'nuff brother. Sho' 'nuff.

3. We don't know what's wrong with his tranny. It could be there was a bad synchro from the start...or a faulty bearing. Hell, maybe he did mess it up launching? Point being: we (you as well) have no clue, so stop being a bunch of whiny babies until we know (then we can pound him). Why so srs?
My car is modded, i don't deny that. Its also an 05 with 93k on the clock. I have no warranty to screw up. If i bought a new car, i wouldn't do any mods until its out of warranty or i decide i don't care about the warranty anymore.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:37 PM   #19
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What type of symptoms are you having that makes you think you have a transmission problem?
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:28 PM   #20
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My car is modded, i don't deny that. Its also an 05 with 93k on the clock. I have no warranty to screw up. If i bought a new car, i wouldn't do any mods until its out of warranty or i decide i don't care about the warranty anymore.
Well, then I think that's a little different than what is going on here. OP = modded car within warranty. You = modded car not even close to warranty.

Taking the high ground for discussion purposes, eh? Lol. Geeze, kids these days.
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^^^^This too...
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:12 PM   #21
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honestly, it pisses me off more that people try to tell you that you're trying to screw subaru over. they don't know your relationship with the dealership, nor should they be commenting on it.
He isn't screwing just subaru over though, that's the problem. He is screwing over EVERYONE that has an active warranty with subaru. The more bogus claims that make it through the system, the tighter they clamp down the screws on all warranty claims. (as well as increase the cost of new vehicles to cover those claims)

I don't care what his relationship with the dealer is, it is SOA, not the dealer, that controls warranties, specifies how closely warranty claims are handled, and the price of new cars.

kind of like car insurance. If you are 30, married, and have never had a ticket, you are still subsidizing the 17 year old idiot who wrapped his wrx around a tree 3 days after getting it. Their accident caused your rates to go up, statistically speaking.
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And you think the tech test driving his car to find the problem will 'stay out of boost'?



He has no relationship with them otherwise he wouldn't need to remove his tune in the first place.

did you read his reason for removing the tune? no, i didn't think so, it doesn't sound like he is trying to cheat the dealership or anything, just that he is wondering if it's ok for him to drive without a tune with an aftermarket dp. remove all the background statements about going to the dealership with a problem or anything. what does he ask? if he's smart, he will mention it to the dealership so they don't overspool the turbo. in my opinion, he shouldn't have removed the tune without removing the dp, but that was his choice.
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Depending on where you are from, the SOA rep that is in charge of approving and denying warranties are also members on here as well.
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:55 PM   #24
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Depending on where you are from, the SOA rep that is in charge of approving and denying warranties are also members on here as well.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:19 PM   #25
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What type of symptoms are you having that makes you think you have a transmission problem?

Here's the Op's other post
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today when i started me car, i put it in reverse, and it started jolting as if something was trying to stop my car... it did it twice then stopeed sooo i kept moving (my ebrake has been acting up lately, or so i thought) so i put it in first.. got the same jolting at first, then it rolled fine. About 2 minutes later, i let off the throttle and hear a whinning/grinding noise (sounded exactly like a bench grinder grinding metal) through all the gears and at all speeds. It doesnt stop. after work, i go to back up, same thing, except the car can barely move its like the ebrake was on but it wasnt, finally it started moving but jolting again. same thing at first in 1st gear. then i had the grinding all the way home. now my car is at subaru. i put it back to a stock tune on the ap incase they went into the ecu. a guy took it for a ride.. said its either a gear in my tranny or center differential. AND its not covered by waraanty because of the dp, cbe, intake, and ap. im so upset right now i dont know what to do. i dont beat on the car at all... i get on it here and there, but for like 5 seconds if that. has anyone had similar problems??? if its the tranny.. should i upgrade it for future modding?? if its the center diff.. is there something better out there than stock???

please help me!!
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