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Old 12-28-2011, 11:02 PM   #2676
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:46 PM   #2677
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:42 AM   #2678
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:50 AM   #2679
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just curious as to what the facination is with loads of negative camber on cars that dont race and tires stretched so tight the contact patch is no bigger than 145mm across when they are on 8"+ wide wheels.

just saying i noticed a few pics that were exactly that in this thread. otherwise some very nice cars.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:54 AM   #2680
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just curious as to what the facination is with loads of negative camber on cars that dont race and tires stretched so tight the contact patch is no bigger than 145mm across when they are on 8"+ wide wheels.

just saying i noticed a few pics that were exactly that in this thread. otherwise some very nice cars.
Some things are better just not asked.... Lots of us have been asking that same question for 3 years now.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:40 AM   #2681
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Some things are better just not asked.... Lots of us have been asking that same question for 3 years now.
It is usually someone trying to be hellaflush and going to far and ending up hellafail. not to mention, to anyone with a brain it looks retarded and guaranteed the ride quality is down the crapper.

I am a pure function kind of guy. Although I do like some aesthetics and it is limited to lighter nicer looking parts and lip spoilers. maybe a wing if it looks good and fits the car well otherwise a nice trunk lip spoiler does the trick for me.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:15 AM   #2682
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:51 AM   #2683
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It is usually someone trying to be hellaflush and going to far and ending up hellafail. not to mention, to anyone with a brain it looks retarded and guaranteed the ride quality is down the crapper.

I am a pure function kind of guy. Although I do like some aesthetics and it is limited to lighter nicer looking parts and lip spoilers. maybe a wing if it looks good and fits the car well otherwise a nice trunk lip spoiler does the trick for me.

Everyone has different tastes, I'm sure none of the hella flush guys make fun of your car for having "Meaty Tires". If we all had the same tastes none of this would be fun becauswe we would all have the same car. If someone wants to have stretched tires so their car can be lower leave it alone, I hate people that hate on other peoples cars or the modifications the do just because its no their own taste..
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:54 AM   #2684
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Everyone has different tastes, I'm sure none of the hella flush guys make fun of your car for having "Meaty Tires". If we all had the same tastes none of this would be fun becauswe we would all have the same car. If someone wants to have stretched tires so their car can be lower leave it alone, I hate people that hate on other peoples cars or the modifications the do just because its no their own taste..
Why modify a car to no benefit? Reduced handling, reduced reliability, worse off ride quality, and extra hassle? Sign me up!
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:18 AM   #2685
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Berg, strike 3, you're out. HIDs need to go big guy.

Why modify a car to no benefit? Reduced handling, reduced reliability, worse off ride quality, and extra hassle? Sign me up!
No benefit? That's where you're wrong Byz! The question you should've asked is, "Why modify a car to no benefit of Byzantium?" Because that's what it is, really. No benefit to you. They probably walk out to their cars every morning and get a sense of pride of ownership, and smile from ear to ear, no different than you do when you see your own car.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:38 AM   #2686
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No benefit? That's where you're wrong Byz! The question you should've asked is, "Why modify a car to no benefit of Byzantium?" Because that's what it is, really. No benefit to you. They probably walk out to their cars every morning and get a sense of pride of ownership, and smile from ear to ear, no different than you do when you see your own car.
I dunno. I would think that one would want their car to at least be able to back itself up if you want it to look like a "race car". We had a word for all show and no go in my day.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:55 AM   #2687
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I dunno. I would think that one would want their car to at least be able to back itself up if you want it to look like a "race car". We had a word for all show and no go in my day.
I do agree with your point of diminishing returns.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:30 PM   #2688
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Well its a good thing that I have a brain and can think for myself. My car handles great and the ride is still awesome. Everyone that bashs on cars that are slammed and have good wheel fittment should just shut up. This is my car, MY CAR. I own it ill do what i want with it.

And don't you relize you came into a slammed thread.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:32 PM   #2689
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Re-read the thread title.

Not sure where wheels that stick out entirely out of the fender well quality as good fitment. Even WFC admits it's wrong fitment. Slammed with 0.25" of suspension travel and riding on the bump stops kind of goes against your whole ride and handling claim.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:55 PM   #2690
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:25 PM   #2691
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Berg, strike 3, you're out. HIDs need to go big guy.


Why modify a car to no benefit? Reduced handling, reduced reliability, worse off ride quality, and extra hassle? Sign me up!

Whos to say theres no benefit? If you do something to your car that you personally like than that would be a benefit. Just because everybody doesnt want to rip turns in their car doesnt mean it's wrong. I preffer my car to have a little bit of both looks and go but i'm not going to hate on someone that wants to slam their car or have giant off roadtires on it. It's their car, let them do what they want to it.. no one posts pictures of their car on a forum wanting to hear a bunch of people bash them, they want to hear from the people that like it or the people that are going to give constructive criticism.
As for worse ride quality, If I wanted to drive in a boat that you cant feel a thing in I would have bought a cadillac and typically cars that have worse ride quality are better handling cars.. Extra hassle? anyone who modifies there car puts in extra hassle either getting the car tuned afterwards or changing from summer wheels to winter wheels whatever.. Reduced reliability, not really unless you have ridiculously stretched tires I can't see your cars reliability being a big hassle I've owned more than one slammed car with tucked wheels and never had a problem with any of them regardless of wheel offset and camber.

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Old 12-30-2011, 03:58 PM   #2692
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Whos to say theres no benefit? If you do something to your car that you personally like than that would be a benefit. Just because everybody doesnt want to rip turns in their car doesnt mean it's wrong. I preffer my car to have a little bit of both looks and go but i'm not going to hate on someone that wants to slam their car or have giant off roadtires on it. It's their car, let them do what they want to it.. no one posts pictures of their car on a forum wanting to hear a bunch of people bash them, they want to hear from the people that like it or the people that are going to give constructive criticism.
As for worse ride quality, If I wanted to drive in a boat that you cant feel a thing in I would have bought a cadillac and typically cars that have worse ride quality are better handling cars.. Extra hassle? anyone who modifies there car puts in extra hassle either getting the car tuned afterwards or changing from summer wheels to winter wheels whatever.. Reduced reliability, not really unless you have ridiculously stretched tires I can't see your cars reliability being a big hassle I've owned more than one slammed car with tucked wheels and never had a problem with any of them regardless of wheel offset and camber.
When you post something online though you have to realize that you are posting it for all forms of input. The internet is not your own little circle jerk party. This is not the North American [insert your username here] Lovers' Club.

For extra hassle I meant having to take your coilovers off every winter, reduced driveabilty for being too low and from too low of offset wheels, and issues such as that. In terms of reliability, slamming a car is a quick means to kill a set of coilovers and running certain wheel setups will potentially affect reliability of various components. People who modify their fenders risk causing rust from cracked paint if not done carefully. In the name of questionable tastes in aesthetics alone, I just don't see how it can be justified.
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:00 PM   #2693
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hey byzantium hows it going



my 265s say hello
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:06 PM   #2694
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:33 PM   #2695
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When you post something online though you have to realize that you are posting it for all forms of input. The internet is not your own little circle jerk party. This is not the North American [insert your username here] Lovers' Club.

For extra hassle I meant having to take your coilovers off every winter, reduced driveabilty for being too low and from too low of offset wheels, and issues such as that. In terms of reliability, slamming a car is a quick means to kill a set of coilovers and running certain wheel setups will potentially affect reliability of various components. People who modify their fenders risk causing rust from cracked paint if not done carefully. In the name of questionable tastes in aesthetics alone, I just don't see how it can be justified.
I see your point, but hence why there are differet threads, granted haters still come into threads they dont like just to flame
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:22 PM   #2696
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:37 PM   #2697
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let me put out the fire alittle here.

it came down to me wanting to challenge myself to see if i could make these wheels work on my wagon. It seems that ppl always have question about wheel fitment on wagons due to them not having the wider sedan front end.

The wheels and tires were a good price and I was looking for wheels and tires at the time. I will agree that at time it can be a hassle driving a car that is lower than most. But at the the end of the day I do like that way it looks and rides. I do not plan on keeping this set-up for much longer unless i stumble upon a sedan front end. as far as the fenders being modified to the point of cracking and rusting doesn't bother me very much as the car is getting resprayed this spring.

also WFC is not the go to web site all the time. my offset really is not that crazy. your serioulsy going to tell me that other ppl on here with slammed cars and crazy wheels are doing it wrong. so Abbot is doing it wrong and RLB also. C'mon dude.

at this point I think its just hilarious that this is such a big deal. I really know issue with ppl doing what they want to there cars. this is at times what keeps a scene going. imagine if know one ever lowered a car or did motor swaps to cars that did not come with certain motors. the scene would be boring, black and white.

and i dont have HIDs
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:06 PM   #2698
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Your distant cousin from the east.
im not gonna even lie bro your car has been an inspiration since i first seen pictures over a year ago. when i decided on nt03s i knew i wanted to pull them off similarly to you. didnt mean to jock your style.

bout to swap grills for a badgeless and i need to clear my headlights haha. either way ill never be putting down your kind of power.
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your serioulsy going to tell me that other ppl on here with slammed cars and crazy wheels are doing it wrong. so Abbot is doing it wrong and RLB also. C'mon dude

and i dont have HIDs
RLB's car is in a 3 way tie for ugliest Subaru (Saabaru in his case) that I've ever seen. Abbot is doing it wrong as well because out cars are not meant to be dragging frame. I'm against tire tucking, nevermind wheel tucking.

And your headlights appear purple in your pics. If they aren't HIDs, my apologies.
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RLB's car is in a 3 way tie for ugliest Subaru (Saabaru in his case) that I've ever seen. Abbot is doing it wrong as well because out cars are not meant to be dragging frame. I'm against tire tucking, nevermind wheel tucking.

And your headlights appear purple in your pics. If they aren't HIDs, my apologies.

so obviously everyone who has a subaru has to do the exact same thing and have a rally car? .. that would be dumb..show me where it says that our cars are not meant to be lowered or slammed or have bags in abbits case please I would love to see it
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