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Old 12-30-2010, 06:46 PM   #51
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Any comments on Orient in terms of quality? I know there have been lots of talk about the new STI watch, I'm thinking of getting a blue Mako or Mako XL. Just something for everyday wear.
Not as reliable as a Seiko, not as crappy as a Chinese Knockoff, I feel they're somewhere in between. Also, they very much tend to be "You get what you pay for". Spend a little more and they don't seem that bad. I have one of the cheaper divers and I'm glad I got it on sale because it didn't feel worth the normal full asking price. Not that it's junk, just it was worth exactly what I paid for it.
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Any comments on Orient in terms of quality? I know there have been lots of talk about the new STI watch, I'm thinking of getting a blue Mako or Mako XL. Just something for everyday wear.
As good as Seiko or Citizen in my opinion. They have several levels of price and quality.
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:55 PM   #53
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Not as reliable as a Seiko, not as crappy as a Chinese Knockoff, I feel they're somewhere in between. Also, they very much tend to be "You get what you pay for". Spend a little more and they don't seem that bad. I have one of the cheaper divers and I'm glad I got it on sale because it didn't feel worth the normal full asking price. Not that it's junk, just it was worth exactly what I paid for it.
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As good as Seiko or Citizen in my opinion. They have several levels of price and quality.
Good...because I've had(several of) both Seiko and Citizen and I have my eye on one of those Orient automatic watches that I'd likely wear daily
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:58 PM   #54
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Any comments on Orient in terms of quality? I know there have been lots of talk about the new STI watch, I'm thinking of getting a blue Mako or Mako XL. Just something for everyday wear.
I bought one (CEM65006D - Mako) because I just needed a silver watch with metal band for a few outfits. It's a watch, and it works. It serves my purpose grandly (3-6 times a year depending on functions). Other than that I'm not terribly impressed. I certainly wouldn't want to wear it every day (I think it would get destroyed), or at higher class (read: snooty, upscale, out of my price-point) events. Basically, the quality is great for $100 but I wouldn't expect it to hold up or be as visually impressive like a nicer watch would.

Edit: I full on destroyed my only Sieko daily wearing it (insides fell off), but I still think Sieko is a higher quality. I agree with the sentiment that they are worth exactly what you pay (provided you have a half off + bonus coupon) and nothing more. Thats not exactly bad though, I wish I got what I paid for with everything.

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I found a local watch shop that sells used and classic watches. I'm curious to see how much classic Rolex's go for. I really freaking want a plain looking stainless one, but I really doubt I can afford one. That and a Patek are my grails, so I figure I might as well go torture myself a little bit.
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I have one of the cheaper divers and I'm glad I got it on sale because it didn't feel worth the normal full asking price. Not that it's junk, just it was worth exactly what I paid for it.
Agreed. I forgot that I got mine with one of the 49% off sales that Orient does all the time. I think I'd be a little disappointed if I paid full price with the endlinks always making noise.

Also of note, I have damaged the bezel insert (cosmetically, from banging it into ****) in a couple of spots, but the bezel itself and the crystal are totally fine- absolutely no indication of said impacts.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:40 PM   #56
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Thanks for the comments. I subscribe to the Orient emails and I don't think they have more than a week where they don't have a promo going on. My biggest concern is the mineral crystal; I'm hoping that will stand to everyday wear and tear. But for a $100 watch, it is what it is. I just need something cheap to not worry about.

On that note, I need to wear the Monaco more often, or at least get a winder.

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Thanks for the comments. I subscribe to the Orient emails and I don't think they have more than a week where they don't have a promo going on. My biggest concern is the mineral crystal; I'm hoping that will stand to everyday wear and tear. But for a $100 watch, it is what it is. I just need something cheap to not worry about.
Mineral crystal in my experience is definitely weaker than Sapphire, but not bad for every day use. I'm hard on stuff and my watches with mineral crystals are holding up just fine though some have nicks in the crystal. It's a concern, yes, but it isn't something I worry about constantly when I wear a watch like that.
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Christmas money is burning a hole in my pocket.

Recommend me something in the sub $300 range.

the collection so far, notable and worn on a regular basis: nixon white rubber player, orange monster, seiko sportura metal band large watch with chrono, french dark metal band thing watch sold that is house brand at gallaries lafayette, old swatches, etc.

http://www.watchismo.com/vestal-fath...007-black.aspx ... looks cool, but due to the styling of the rest of their line I get the "fashion watch company" vibe

I like these too:
Amazon.com: Seiko 5 Automatic Black PVD Watch SNKE03K1: WatchesAmazon.com: Seiko 5 Automatic Black PVD Watch SNKE03K1: Watches

Amazon.com: Stuhrling Original Men's 179A.335612 Sportsman 'Raven Diablo' Automatic Watch: Stuhrling Original: WatchesAmazon.com: Stuhrling Original Men's 179A.335612 Sportsman 'Raven Diablo' Automatic Watch: Stuhrling Original: Watches
(with a different strap)

I'm also considering a citizen nighthawk
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http://www.watchismo.com/vestal-fath...007-black.aspx ... looks cool, but due to the styling of the rest of their line I get the "fashion watch company" vibe
No.

Meh, there are better Seiko 5's to be had.

Heck no.

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Thanks for the comments. I subscribe to the Orient emails and I don't think they have more than a week where they don't have a promo going on. My biggest concern is the mineral crystal; I'm hoping that will stand to everyday wear and tear. But for a $100 watch, it is what it is. I just need something cheap to not worry about.

On that note, I need to wear the Monaco more often, or at least get a winder.
Sam,

I have an Orient Kingmaster Worldtime that I bought on impulse. It also has a mineral crystal and so far its been holding up rather well. Wouldn't be a concern at all. The acrylic that is found on vintage watches scratch much more easily.

If you need any help with l337 JDM Orient models, you know how to get in touch with me.
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I know the answer to this question has been scatter-answered between this and the other thread, but suppose someone is a watch n00b and has a price cap of $500 to spend on a watch- what are good brands to look for, and what brands should he avoid?


I guess it's safe to start the 'good' list with:
Orient
Citizen
Seiko
Invicta
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I've always been wary of invidia and think of them as a fashion watch co.

I could be wrong.

I love my 2 seikos and am considering adding an orient or citizen to the collection.

What kind of watch do you like (slim like a Skagen, leather strap a must, chronograph, automatic?)?
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I like automatics, I like leather straps, but I'm open to anything ATM. Not actively looking for anything in particular, but if I see a deal on something I really like I might jump on it. I'd just like to know what to look for.

I really want to know what brands are junk and which ones are high quality.

For instance: Android? I've heard them mentioned... any good? What about Skagan?


also: invidia? someones been tinkering with computers too much, you're combining watch and video card brands
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I know the answer to this question has been scatter-answered between this and the other thread, but suppose someone is a watch n00b and has a price cap of $500 to spend on a watch- what are good brands to look for, and what brands should he avoid?


I guess it's safe to start the 'good' list with:
Orient
Citizen
Seiko
Invicta
Invicta is utter ****. Orient is worth about $100, no more. Seiko and Citizen are respectable I suppose, but I wouldn't spend $500 on either.

My Hamilton was sub $500 and I think it's a better watch than any brand you listed. It is mechanical opposed to automatic though. They have automatic options, not sure on cost.

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I've got an android, great watch. they seem to be on the larger size.
At the $200 you see them usually go for I think they're a decent buy.. I got mine off chronoshark for under $100 so it was a no brainier.


Not a fan of Invicta.. but feel hypocritical saying this in a post where I mention Android.. they both use the same movements.. Android modifies the Miyota movement tho. I can't really say why I don't like Invicta.. just can't see that with that price point how they can be "good" watches.
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Tissot and Lum-Tec has some nice $500 pieces.
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You can also look at Tissot, Hamilton, Steinhart, Benarus, LumTec at that price range. Probably not models with complicated movements, but the quality's there. I like the Steinhart Aviation at that price.

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I guess it's safe to start the 'good' list with:
Orient
Citizen
Seiko
Invicta


One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong.

If I had $500 to blow I'd go for a divers watch like an Ocean7 or an MKII or a Dievas or one of the others that fill that "small low volume high quality" nitche. Generally with those small brands, $500 can buy you a watch that would blow most of the brands (and even more expensive brands) you listed out of the water.

And of course, $500 puts you right in the Vostok-Europe range, specifically the new models like the Ekranoplan or my new "must have", the Anchar.

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zero Invicta love in here.
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Just say no to Invicta
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zero Invicta love in here.
I see too many of them for $40-$50 to seriously consider them quality watches.
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zero Invicta love in here.
There's a couple that I like, but you have to wade through the diamond encrusted dinner plates and over priced Chinese knockoffs to get to the "almost decent" ones.

I just see them as decidedly overhyped. There are a lot of better brands for the same money. Android isn't the best, but I'd buy one before I bought an Invicta (and I have). Same with Orient (and I have as well). But putting them on the same level as Citizen or Seiko is just a farce. Absolutely no contest.
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Okay, so a better list would be:

Sub $500:
Ocean7
MKII
Dievas
Vostok-Europe
Tissot
Hamilton
Steinhart
Benarus
LumTec

Sub $300:
Orient
Seiko
Citizen
Android

?

There needs to be a n00bs buyers guide to these things

EDIT: oh, and avoid Stuhrling and Invicta like syphilis, amiright?

What about Bulova, Swiss Legend?

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a few questions from a watch-noob, so be gentle. don't forget, it is still december.

i am having a tough time deciding on what to look for in a "daily" watch. daily for me means business casual (very rarely a suit).

my main dilemma seems to be in the type of band (leather or metal, i am not a fan of the rubber or cloth), and the color of the face.

what would you guys suggest if you had only one watch to wear, both in a professional environment (office) but also a casual environment (home, out, etc)? are there any unwritten watch codes/man laws that i need to know about regarding when and when not to wear a certain type of watch?

personally, i think i like the look of the metal band over the leather, but some of the leather bands you guys have posted are pretty sweet.
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EDIT: oh, and avoid Stuhrling and Invicta like syphilis, amiright?

yar.. even tho stuhrling does make some candy looking skeletons at a price I'd buy just to buy it.
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