NX Ntercooler=Better 1/4mile time?

Mach5WRX · 07-07-2002, 10:30 PM

I've seen some old posts about this...http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101

Has anyone used/seen this used recently on a WRX. I'd like to pick this kit up. I think it would kick booty for use here in hot/humid Hawaii.

Ronin2121 · 07-08-2002, 01:15 AM

If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile.

SubyRex · 07-08-2002, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ronin2121
If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile.

Bingo, then add the water spray kit for those hot/humid Hawaiian days and put ice cold water in the bottle

Mach5WRX · 07-08-2002, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ronin2121
If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile.

I don't want to spray nitrous on my intercooler, I want to spray CO2. As fas as a water spary kit, I've looked around and I think this set up would work better. Oh well can't hurt to try it out.

jimb · 07-08-2002, 02:43 PM

I'm working on mine right now. Going to use a paintball cyl and a nitrous solenoid. Should be able to put one together for under $100. Anyhow, some guy in a white rex (didn't get his name), was using a homebrew setup based on a nos kit. Had a piece of drilled tubing mounted to his intercooler that sprayed down. Iced up the IC very quickly. His times sure were convincing, especially when you consider the mid-upper 90's temps and high humidity.

jb

Mach5WRX · 07-08-2002, 03:09 PM

I was thinking of using a cheap nitrous kit and a burner from a gas BBQ I found at Sears.

Carlo · 07-08-2002, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Mach5WRX
I was thinking of using a cheap nitrous kit and a burner from a gas BBQ I found at Sears.

Damn, dude, you stole my idea. Give it back

Carlo

Mach5WRX · 07-08-2002, 03:39 PM

Great minds think alike

Leonardo · 07-08-2002, 03:46 PM

True, but I'll make min to spray the top and the bottom so it's well iced, cuz if you spray the top, the bottom is still hot.

Leo

Mach5WRX · 07-09-2002, 12:51 AM

Should be fine if you don't do a crap load of runs all at one time.

tmarcel · 07-09-2002, 11:27 AM

The benefits of running CO2 over the IC should be far more COST effective vs. NO2 with similar results I would think.

Mach5WRX · 07-11-2002, 07:02 PM

Well my mind is made up. I'm going to get this kit. Anyone know where I can pick one up for cheap?
The only place I can find this kit is on the nopi web site, and they want $80 to ship it to me!

Kevin Thomas · 07-11-2002, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by tmarcel
The benefits of running CO2 over the IC should be far more COST effective vs. NO2 with similar results I would think.

Why do you say this? I'm ignorant of this CO2 stuff. I looked here and it states that CO2 is $5.00 per lb. Nitrous costs me $4.00 a lb. Of course cost varies. Also, the website I provided said this:
"DoT regulations and Compressed Gas Association standards state that all tanks, steel or aluminum, used for the storage of CO2 which measure over 2 inches in diameter must be hyrdostatically tested every five years.
Hydrostatic testing consists of inserting the tank into a water filled containment vessel and increasing the pressure to five-thirds (5/3) of it's rated pressure. If the tank fails, as in the picture to the right, it does so in the water filled container designed to contain the blast."

.

Nitrous bottles do not need to be hydrostatically tested.

Again, I'm ignorant of all the CO2 stuff so I am posting these questions. Thanks for any feedback.

ChicksDigWagons · 07-11-2002, 08:43 PM

I can pick up 20oz of Co2 at my local paintball place for $5, you can pick up a 50Lbs bottle for ~$50+$100 deposit I think for the bottle. Last I checked nitrous was $40 to fill up a 10lbs bottle.

Plus Co2 is much more widely availible. As for the Hydrostatic testing, it's just regulation. Co2 is very safe to handle, the gas is typically around 800psi, and most tanks have a burst pressure far in excess of 3000psi, with a 2000psi burst valve. Plus you can pick up empty tanks for cheap and they are highly availible.

I'm also pretty sure No2 tanks need to be certified in the same manner as Co2 tanks, especially if exposed to high (125 degree) tempratures.

Thats my contribution.

07-11-2002, 10:10 PM

What if any way could you actually spray the CO2 in a "Regulated maner??? is there a co2 "Sprayer" i would like to do this rather then icing the intercooler, i really like this idea but how would you phsyically "Spray" it??

Rob

Mach5WRX · 07-11-2002, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobPA
What if any way could you actually spray the CO2 in a "Regulated maner??? is there a co2 "Sprayer" i would like to do this rather then icing the intercooler, i really like this idea but how would you phsyically "Spray" it??

Rob

Click on the link on the first post

Mach5WRX · 07-11-2002, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin Thomas

Why do you say this? I'm ignorant of this CO2 stuff. I looked here and it states that CO2 is $5.00 per lb. Nitrous costs me $4.00 a lb. Of course cost varies. Also, the website I provided said this:
"DoT regulations and Compressed Gas Association standards state that all tanks, steel or aluminum, used for the storage of CO2 which measure over 2 inches in diameter must be hyrdostatically tested every five years.
Hydrostatic testing consists of inserting the tank into a water filled containment vessel and increasing the pressure to five-thirds (5/3) of it's rated pressure. If the tank fails, as in the picture to the right, it does so in the water filled container designed to contain the blast."

.

Nitrous bottles do not need to be hydrostatically tested.

Again, I'm ignorant of all the CO2 stuff so I am posting these questions. Thanks for any feedback.

This kit is made by Nitrous Express. It comes with..... - Complete kit including 5lb bottle, stainless steel bottle brackets, 16ft -4 feed line custom intercooler discharge ring, nitrous solenoid, arming switch, push button and installation hardware.

The bottle is a normal 5lb compressed gas bottle.

Mach5WRX · 07-12-2002, 02:19 PM

Here's a picture of the kit.

Dori Dori · 07-12-2002, 02:28 PM

A friend of mine has it down here in South Fl.

I'm not going to post the difference in times b/c I know a lot of you will flame and call me a liar...I'll just say that the difference in times was more than I thought they would be and that it was done on the same night, back to back and that I was there.

Mach5WRX · 07-12-2002, 02:52 PM

Where did he get it from?

tmarcel · 07-12-2002, 03:04 PM

Okay so now that we've established that the Co2 is less expensive, then how would one piece a kit together? I wonder if the Nitrous Express kit could utilize Co2 in the bottle rather than the No2?

This would make since if that would work. Otherwise, you would have to re-invent the wheel and source the parts.

Dori Dori · 07-12-2002, 03:20 PM

He's a vendor...so probably a distributor...but I'm not sure at all.

Mach5WRX · 07-12-2002, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tmarcel
Okay so now that we've established that the Co2 is less expensive, then how would one piece a kit together? I wonder if the Nitrous Express kit could utilize Co2 in the bottle rather than the No2?

This would make since if that would work. Otherwise, you would have to re-invent the wheel and source the parts.

From the NX web site.....For supercharged or turbo applications where nitrous is not an option, NX offers another alternative, the “N-tercooler”. Using either nitrous or "CO2" this unit can reduce air inlet temperatures dramatically. In a recent dyno test, a turbocharged Honda, equipped with an NX “N-tercooler ”, increased its baseline by an astounding 52 horsepower! If it makes horsepower, it must be Nitrous Express!

Mach5WRX · 07-12-2002, 04:14 PM

If some people want this kit, let's do a "group buy". Anyone up for that?

digga · 07-12-2002, 05:18 PM

I am interested in a group buy depending on how much cheaper the cost will be

07-07-2002, 10:30 PM	#1
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	NX Ntercooler=Better 1/4mile time? I've seen some old posts about this...http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101 Has anyone used/seen this used recently on a WRX. I'd like to pick this kit up. I think it would kick booty for use here in hot/humid Hawaii.

07-09-2002, 11:27 AM	#11
tmarcel Scooby Specialist Member#: 7555 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte NC	Co2 The benefits of running CO2 over the IC should be far more COST effective vs. NO2 with similar results I would think.

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07-08-2002, 01:15 AM	#2
Ronin2121 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13798 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 02 Wrx Silver	If you are going to spend the cash. Put the nitrous into your engine instead of on your i/c and you can be sure to have a bigger smile.

07-08-2002, 02:43 PM	#5
jimb Scooby Specialist Member#: 9923 Join Date: Sep 2001 Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT RIP MBP WRX	I'm working on mine right now. Going to use a paintball cyl and a nitrous solenoid. Should be able to put one together for under $100. Anyhow, some guy in a white rex (didn't get his name), was using a homebrew setup based on a nos kit. Had a piece of drilled tubing mounted to his intercooler that sprayed down. Iced up the IC very quickly. His times sure were convincing, especially when you consider the mid-upper 90's temps and high humidity. jb

07-08-2002, 03:09 PM	#6
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	I was thinking of using a cheap nitrous kit and a burner from a gas BBQ I found at Sears.

07-08-2002, 03:39 PM	#8
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	Great minds think alike

07-08-2002, 03:46 PM	#9
Leonardo Cowabunga!!! Super Moderator Member#: 185 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, Fl Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT wagon CFR SCCA ESP #17	True, but I'll make min to spray the top and the bottom so it's well iced, cuz if you spray the top, the bottom is still hot. Leo

07-09-2002, 12:51 AM	#10
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	Should be fine if you don't do a crap load of runs all at one time.

07-11-2002, 07:02 PM	#12
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	Well my mind is made up. I'm going to get this kit. Anyone know where I can pick one up for cheap? The only place I can find this kit is on the nopi web site, and they want $80 to ship it to me!

07-11-2002, 08:43 PM	#14
ChicksDigWagons Scooby Specialist Member#: 20508 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Ishpeming, MI Vehicle: 1997 Green OBS Turbo coming...NOW!	I can pick up 20oz of Co2 at my local paintball place for $5, you can pick up a 50Lbs bottle for ~$50+$100 deposit I think for the bottle. Last I checked nitrous was $40 to fill up a 10lbs bottle. Plus Co2 is much more widely availible. As for the Hydrostatic testing, it's just regulation. Co2 is very safe to handle, the gas is typically around 800psi, and most tanks have a burst pressure far in excess of 3000psi, with a 2000psi burst valve. Plus you can pick up empty tanks for cheap and they are highly availible. I'm also pretty sure No2 tanks need to be certified in the same manner as Co2 tanks, especially if exposed to high (125 degree) tempratures. Thats my contribution.

07-11-2002, 10:10 PM	#15
RobPA Guest Member#:	What if any way could you actually spray the CO2 in a "Regulated maner??? is there a co2 "Sprayer" i would like to do this rather then icing the intercooler, i really like this idea but how would you phsyically "Spray" it?? Rob

07-12-2002, 02:28 PM	#19
Dori Dori Scooby Specialist Member#: 6780 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: South Florida Vehicle: 1993 Nissan	A friend of mine has it down here in South Fl. I'm not going to post the difference in times b/c I know a lot of you will flame and call me a liar...I'll just say that the difference in times was more than I thought they would be and that it was done on the same night, back to back and that I was there.

07-12-2002, 02:52 PM	#20
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	Where did he get it from?

07-12-2002, 03:04 PM	#21
tmarcel Scooby Specialist Member#: 7555 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte NC	Okay so now that we've established that the Co2 is less expensive, then how would one piece a kit together? I wonder if the Nitrous Express kit could utilize Co2 in the bottle rather than the No2? This would make since if that would work. Otherwise, you would have to re-invent the wheel and source the parts.

07-12-2002, 03:20 PM	#22
Dori Dori Scooby Specialist Member#: 6780 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: South Florida Vehicle: 1993 Nissan	He's a vendor...so probably a distributor...but I'm not sure at all.

07-12-2002, 04:14 PM	#24
Mach5WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 17060 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hellifornia - Turboculture.com	If some people want this kit, let's do a "group buy". Anyone up for that?

07-12-2002, 05:18 PM	#25
digga Scooby Newbie Member#: 21310 Join Date: Jul 2002	I am interested in a group buy depending on how much cheaper the cost will be