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Old 07-09-2002, 12:48 PM   #26
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tim=most hated internet forum guy!!!

i think that tim is just trying to say that it is real cool when people have respect for each others cars and aren't too brand loyal. i didn't have a chance to talk to al on friday, but damn did i like his car!! don't be afraid to wave or say hi to a fellow car enthusiast when you see em, we are all shooting for the same goal:the ultimate car.

anyway enough afterschool special.
wrx is gh3y3r th4n vw.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:02 PM   #27
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All he's trying say is have a little respect for other people... Be a little more open minded. Only about half this board can achieve that.. sorry to say.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:06 PM   #28
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You guys really don't see the point. And its obvious you never will.
Obviously , it's a subby board and your gonna be proud of your kills, but when someone says that they beat a wrx or there wrx got beat by such a such a car...why bash it and say it's slow and not possible and this and that. or what was wrong with the wrx that raced..

And Actually I sit there and say the same exact thing on vortex to.. just again ask onesillyracer2k who post there also. It's has nothing to with what car i own, I for 1 love and fast car, and try to learn as much about other cars as possible. There are just as many narrowmind vw's if not more... who bash hondas/subbys and whatever other cars and give them an earful also..It's just the idea that people have to realize every type of cars has there fast cars etc.

Now... IF someone past reading comprehension you would read what i clearly wrote in bold $6000 in ENGINE MODS, ENGINE, see that.. obvsiously drivetrain and suspension are also needed, just like for a subby... and just for you i'll toss in the extra $300 for slicks,And also who said LOW 11's? there that reading comprehension thing again I said low low 12's to mid 11's ??? Show me were i said low 11's??

Well as to how many 11sec vr6's, well since each of my friends and myself there are, 7 off us who should be in the 11's by the end of this season.. but if you want to go nationwide there are and aditional 5-8 or so.

Wow, so just because the wrx just came to america means there has been no r&d in japan on what works??? Wrx has had plenty of time while it's in japan to work thing out for the motor.
IT's not a new car.. It's kinda like when the Lancer gets released you think it's gonna take 10yeas to get good aftermarket parts.. nope it's cause it's been in japan and they know about what works etc.

Again I said if you wanted to COMPARE, cheap dollar for dollar you should do it with 2 cars already turbo like the 1.8t, and i said the 1.8t would be COMPARIBLE to the WRX.. never said it was better or cheaper but a better COMPARISON then the n/a vr6.

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Old 07-09-2002, 01:22 PM   #29
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So, what you're trying to say is that a stock VR6 can spank any WRX with any mods?! Doubtful. And how the how the heck can 0-100 times in a Jetta even come close to a $100K Porsche? Furthermore, unless it's very, very, very windy...you're claims that a 1.8 with NOS can out-slalom a Japanese WRX are completely absurd.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:26 PM   #30
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Where did your stupid rant come form??? When did anybody say that a aftermarket FI VR6 would be slow??? The threads that have been deleted or closed in here because of stupid VW trolls have been an arguement over stock for stock. So please shat up!!


I owned a VR6 that was a lemon. Yes a legal slow a$$ lemon. I left that pile of crap in a parking lot and let them take that PITA back. :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:

You can moddify a yugo with 6 grand that will be faster then your car and my car but who cares???? Stock for stock is all that I care about and that is the only fair playing ground so all of you stupid trolls can finnally shut up...........it was said in here from one of your own..................."and like i said stock for stock i sure hope a 227hp turbo wrx can beat a 172 hp n/a vr6.. never even a debate.." So please no more of your crap.
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Old 07-09-2002, 01:28 PM   #31
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i don't remember isukivr6 ever saying all wrxs' were crap and we were gay? did i miss that part of the post? also subaru has been marketing towards the gay community for years so stop making yourself look dumb. and tim, i didn't make the ground hog day reference towards you directly but at what i knew was going to happen. once you mention another car brand around here there are always a few members that get super defensive and jump all over the person. it happens on all the boards. anyway, you from north or south jersey? you probably know a few guys i know. paul wolfe, bill schimmel? paul had that orange rabbit that went 11s.and i am sure you know of bills old corrado. well i guess just try and take a way more mellow approach so people don't assume you are attacking them. good luck.

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Old 07-09-2002, 01:35 PM   #32
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some people don't read. why be a wrx nazi? there are other quality cars out there that are reasonably fast in their own right. just try and respect other enthusiasts. i am not here to hate, i like rex's and even test drove one as a potential car to buy. this is a suby board, true, but that does not mean others cannot come here and even have insightful information. mike
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I like VR6's, and I like WRX's. Both are quick stock (obviously, the WRX has the advantage: more power, turbo vs. NA, AWD vs FWD), and can be modded to go even quicker. You and two of your friends have VW's that can do 11's, and that is certainly impressive! Not a lot of WRX's running 11's, as it's not easy to do. I don't get why all you guys are slamming this guy so hard. He's given the WRX it's props, and is just saying that he thinks the VR6 deserves a little respect, too. Why you answer his comments about the two cars (which are all true, by the way), you guys answer with name calling and insults. It's WRX owners like that who are making the I-Club not as good as it used to be, and it's kinda sad.

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Old 07-09-2002, 02:09 PM   #34
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Thank you people who finally took time to read and comprehend what has been written. You just made my day thank you

Skip, yes i know Paul, i actually saw him sunday at englishtown,and Bill actually sponsors the 1 jetta that goes 11.4 , but will be in the 10's as the built motor and engine managment goes in.

BLKWRXWGN, please go back and read. This whole thread a few more times u might get the facts straight... andthe comment about stock for stock was by me.. so yea..exactly.
And if for 6grand in engine mods according to a yugo, or a wrx can be faster then a vr6.. then why does Al have how much money into his motor???

Angus - theres nothing i can reply to your comment cause your so far lost it will take a couple years to get you in the right direction.


And this isn't even give the VR6 more respect... it's just give all other makes respect...

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Thank you people who finally took time to read and comprehend what has been written. You just made my day thank you

Skip, yes i know Paul, i actually saw him sunday at englishtown,and Bill actually sponsors the 1 jetta that goes 11.4 , but will be in the 10's as the built motor and engine managment goes in.

BLKWRXWGN, please go back and read. This whole thread a few more times u might get the facts straight... andthe comment about stock for stock was by me.. so yea..exactly.
And if for 6grand in engine mods according to a yugo, or a wrx can be faster then a vr6.. then why does Al have how much money into his motor???

Angus - theres nothing i can reply to your comment cause your so far lost it will take a couple years to get you in the right direction.


And this isn't even give the VR6 more respect... it's just give all other makes respect...

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Tim please notice that my comments weren't exactly pointed towards you. I quoted you because you were the only one that made sense out of all the trolls we have had lately. I have much respect for all cars and using Al as an example is not good around here. Al actually doesn't get much respect here because he is a real prick. He has dumped more money into his car then anybody around here and he isn't the fastest. People have been rude to you because we have had a slue of rude trolls come in here lately just trying to make trouble. So you might want to tone it down just a bit because we are all sensitive over here right now.
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Old 07-09-2002, 02:28 PM   #36
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please check this post in the factory turbo forum to see if i am a troll or if people have a superiority complex! now take note how respectful i have been both on this board and in my thread on vortex!

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Old 07-09-2002, 02:47 PM   #37
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Quote "some people don't read. why be a wrx nazi?"
Why post on a Subaru board looking for support on VWs? That's kinda Dumb don't you think? Anyway yeah the VR6 is a nice car and if you are running 11's mad props but why post that sh't here? We all know there are other nice cars ex. BMW M3, Vette Z06, 911 turbos, RX7's, Supra's, blah blah blah What I am getting at is that if you try telling someone who just bought a brand new BMW M3 that your VR6 is nice too he is prob going to laugh at you. If I want to read about VR6s I will go to the VW board but I don't so why bring your crap here? I don't wanna come off like a Nazi but this board is for people who want to talk about how great Suby's are! I could see your point if the Board was named North American Nice Cars Owners Club but its not.
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Old 07-09-2002, 02:55 PM   #38
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the point isn't how nice vr6 or subies are, it is just about other nice cars existing and respecting all cars. and i came her to talk to al cuz i ran against him on sunday, tim came to post the video for you guys to see of al's 12.08. and then people are gonna start bashing me for only running 14.4.? come on man, give me a break!
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Old 07-09-2002, 03:17 PM   #39
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BLKWRX, Point very well taken, and i do appreciate your response... And i can understand where you guys are coming from for sure.
Sorry if i was a little "hyped" but it's just so frustrating watching people write replies on something they half-asses read..

And after reading more post i understand your point about Al,and like Mike said i merely came on here to show everyone that Al's car really does run the numbers he says he does.


WilliamKoramus...After we just got done posting it has nothing about the vr6 respect think you make your post.. I dunno I guess some poeple will never comprehend the point of what this thread was supposed to be.

To the people who have, you recieve my utmost respect as car enthusiasts as a whole.

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Old 07-09-2002, 03:23 PM   #40
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Angus - theres nothing i can reply to your comment cause your so far lost it will take a couple years to get you in the right direction.
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Old 07-09-2002, 03:29 PM   #41
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Now... IF someone past reading comprehension you would read what i clearly wrote in bold $6000 in ENGINE MODS, ENGINE, see that.. obvsiously drivetrain and suspension are also needed, just like for a subby... and just for you i'll toss in the extra $300 for slicks,And also who said LOW 11's? there that reading comprehension thing again I said low low 12's to mid 11's ??? Show me were i said low 11's??
Yes you are right, you did say engine mods. No need to be so rude though. You really are an ass hole. As for the reading comprehension, you said 11.4. That is a low 11. What is it in your book? A low/kinda mid/11?

EDIT: acually you are wrong. Yes, you did say 'engine mods' but you also made reference to running the same times as Al with those 'engine mods'...but that isn't true b/c you need supporting modifications to run those times.

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Wow, so just because the wrx just came to america means there has been no r&d in japan on what works??? Wrx has had plenty of time while it's in japan to work thing out for the motor.
IT's not a new car.. It's kinda like when the Lancer gets released you think it's gonna take 10yeas to get good aftermarket parts.. nope it's cause it's been in japan and they know about what works etc.
This point is stupid and has no grounds. Yes it is a new car. First off, the factory ECU is brand new and totally wack. It's not as easy as it used to be to suck power out of a WRX. 2nd, it's not the same engine as the ones in Japan (exactly). They have many different features and parts. 3rd, other countries are not concerned w/ 1/4 mile like we are...especially w/ the WRX...hence why there are no drag specific parts available. If we were talking handling, then you would be totally right. If the WRX were a drag car in other countries, we would have been able to purchase garret flanged up-pipes and downpipes from the day the car came out. Unfortunately, we have been forced to develop our own tuning methods and parts to go fast.

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Again I said if you wanted to COMPARE, cheap dollar for dollar you should do it with 2 cars already turbo like the 1.8t, and i said the 1.8t would be COMPARIBLE to the WRX.. never said it was better or cheaper but a better COMPARISON then the n/a vr6.
Point taken.

Again, if you didn't start insulting members for no reason, I wouldn't have even posted here. If I were like you, my replies might look like this 'You are so stupid. You don't know anything. You VW owners are so dumb and bias.'. To me, you sound like an ass hole, hence why you are being treated like one. If you wanted to make a good point, your thread should have looked more like this:

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tim,
is paul still building that rwd corrado? that guy know his stuff. he used to do work on my cars years ago. i guess you know justin also. its weird i don't know you. john lucawtz? hes got my old g60 rabbit. anyway tell paul skip said whats up.

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Dude you my friend have issues.

First off.. 11.0-11.3 = low 11.4-11.6 = mid and 11.7-11.9 = high...
The jetta that goes 11.4 is also running more boost then the other cars as i stated 18psi rather then 15psi,and was pushing the stock block to the limits.

And yes obviously i have to be rude about the $6000 in engine mods cause when i posted it nicely it was obvisouly overlook then when i put it in caps it was read... so yea if you read it the first time then no i wouldn't have had to make it so abrupt.

Who insulted members for no reason, show me 1 member who i singled out before they made a comment about a vr6 or anyother car being less then a wrx ?? please show me 1.

And how do you figure if you were like me you would be writing "'You are so stupid. You don't know anything. You VW owners are so dumb and bias.' ???

Were do I say ALL WRX owners are BIAS? I said ALOT, and i never called any one dumb.

I might look like an ass hole to you, but atleast i am an open minded ass hole, who has a liking for all cars.

And BTW... I proved my point totally with the responses i have received... So yea...what i thought.
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Skip, yea Paul is still building the RWD corrado, he actually posted pics of it on hardcorevw a month or so ago..
I know of Justin but never actually met him..
The reason you don't know us is we are new to the game comparetively to those guys we just started running solid numbers last year, plus we are vr6 guys, were as they love there 8v/16v and are damn good with the, But i should see Paul at waterfest so i'll tell him there..
We are like friends with Joel Brown/Kevin Black...

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Dude you my friend have issues.

First off.. 11.0-11.3 = low 11.4-11.6 = mid and 11.7-11.9 = high...
The jetta that goes 11.4 is also running more boost then the other cars as i stated 18psi rather then 15psi,and was pushing the stock block to the limits.

And yes obviously i have to be rude about the $6000 in engine mods cause when i posted it nicely it was obvisouly overlook then when i put it in caps it was read... so yea if you read it the first time then no i wouldn't have had to make it so abrupt.

Who insulted members for no reason, show me 1 member who i singled out before they made a comment about a vr6 or anyother car being less then a wrx ?? please show me 1.

And how do you figure if you were like me you would be writing "'You are so stupid. You don't know anything. You VW owners are so dumb and bias.' ???

Were do I say ALL WRX owners are BIAS? I said ALOT, and i never called any one dumb.

I might look like an ass hole to you, but atleast i am an open minded ass hole, who has a liking for all cars.

And BTW... I proved my point totally with the responses i have received... So yea...what i thought.
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1. HA! You are the one w/ issues. So since someone doesn't like a VR6 and they bash it, they deserve to be called names! I think the VR6 sucks! Now everyone start insulting me!

2. Where did I say you said all wrx owners were bias? I didn't! When I said I would sound like you...I never said I was repeating what you were saing verbatim...my example was merely an exaggerated interpretation of what I may sound like w/ your attitude. READING COMPREHENSION!

And I do have a liking for (almost) all cars, just not pricks like you.

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Cars has nothing to do with this post..

It's all about my d!ck being bigger than yours.

Why are times being measured anyways? ... Shouldn't whp come before some stupid piece of paper that said you went this fast in this amount of time?!
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Alright, ive bit my tongue long enough. I personally know Tim aka itsukivr6, and i know he is in no means personally taking an assault on wrx owners. I do agree with him though by saying that there are members on this board who think the wrx's **** dont stink. If your running 11s,12s, damn even 17s then more power to you all cause at least your trying at the dragstrip,but its when your head begins to swell up that the problems begin. Sorry but Im with itsukivr6 on this one whether you like it or not.
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I don't give a crap how fast (or slow) my WRX is. I never took it to a drag strip nor do I care to. Nor do I care about other peoples WRX's 1/4 mile speeds. For the record...I know my WRX's **** stinks.
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ItsukiVR6-

Im very open minded, but just cant stand any VW's. they just bug the hell out of me, guess its all those stupid high school chicks driving jettas, and all the stupid high school dudes driving the gti's.

no love for vw, just havent liked them since i found the japansese market.

And i havent been a subaru guy my whole life or anything, just converted from honda to subaru (thanks to the WRX).

Im sure i would have bought a vw if i was looking for creature comfort features such as leather and a sunroof, lol.


anyway if i had to choose something else in the 20k range, i would rather go back to honda then vw, thats the truth from me honestly.

plus whats up with the drivetrain? it feels looser than a Vegas prostitute.


And trust me i dont look over at a vw owner and say to myself why did he buy a gti over wrx, because i realize that people look for different things in cars, and the wrx might not fit a potential vw owners shoes.

I see right thru the skin of a vw, after all the "quality LOOK" stuff on the outside, not much left on the inside.

well enjoy your vr6.

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edit: there would only be 2 scenarios for me to buy a VW:

1. i would buy a VW over a domestic car.
2. i would buy a VW over a korean made car.
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[quote]Originally posted by GDA
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Im very open minded, but just cant stand any VW's. they just bug the hell out of me, guess its all those stupid high school chicks driving jettas, and all the stupid high school dudes driving the gti's.

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yea cause NO high school dudes drive hondas
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